On the subject of revolution covered by Tim below, anti-whites a fatal Catch-22 situation.
To begin with, the whole question of whether there will be evolution or a revolution is historically up to those who are in power. My first book, A Plague on Both Your Houses, discussed that matter at length. Any establishment which cannot adjust rationally ends up being overthrown at a huge cost to those who make it up. The British Monarchy adjusted to a parliamentary system and the Czar’s family is dead.
France’s Bourbons were famed for “Forgetting nothing and learning nothing.” So France remains a republic.
The critical problem is that our PC establishment CANNOT be reasonable about race. I have repeated the reason many times here, but the IMPLICATIONS have not been noticed. On Opposing Views on Stormfront, anti-whites are constantly saying that they have no objection to whites associating only with whites. Nobody but me EVER calls them on that because no one else recognizes this as their FATAL Catch-22.
Back to the original point: revolutions occur where the establishment cannot be reasonable. But anti-whites cannot be reasonable. Why? Because the Diversity myth is simply a myth. White people will, after a time, gravitate to any spot ON EARTH where whites are allowed to have their own communities.
The Diversity myth is so ridiculous that anti-whites cannot allow that myth to be DISCUSSED freely anywhere on earth. Debate diversity inside the US and you lost your career. Discuss it outside the US and you go to prison.
Repeat the above paragraph in any respectable publication and you are in deep, deep, trouble.
The mistake made on Stormfront is a discussion of evolution or revolution as if it were OUR choice. Pushing the race question to a matter of prison leads to revolution. But that is not because it is OUR choice. It is because the Diversity Myth is so ridiculous it can only be imposed by unremitting force.
#1 by Simmons on 03/25/2009 - 2:55 pm
“Myth” being the operative word in this post by Bob. Past debate was the trading of points they call us names we respond with IQ study results and crime stats, continue till death.
We never have asked them to explain in detail what exactly they mean by “diversity”, to actually do this would be to expose the myth. The religious admit that practice a “Faith” but we allow the kids of the left to proceed as if they are rational and using pure reason. Hence Mantra comes along, exposes them for what they are being ironically opposite what they proclaim to be.
The kids on the left thrive on point trading, it fuels their narcicism, they are somebody without ever leaving their talking points, no need to.
#2 by Dave on 03/25/2009 - 4:29 pm
The matter of revolution versus evolution isn’t really meaningful.
What matters is the asymmetry in loyalty between the Establishment and its opponents.
Take, for example, the four police officers that were killed in Oakland last weekend.
From the standpoint of loyalty and the Establishment what can be said about them is that they are no longer able to pay their union dues.
This is a matter of concern only for the greaseball lawyer that negotiates their union contract.
But dying on the count of a personnel policy and a set of rules of engagement (a litany of Political Correctness) is a hell of a reason to die.
Choose or lose.
God doesn’t pull punches.
#3 by Simmons on 03/26/2009 - 7:10 am
We are the loyalty test administrators. I for one would like to put Hugh Hefner to the test. He can turn his pages into the mulato manifesto or continue on with fluff shots of ideal white women. Of course the kids of the left pretend to not notice, but Playboy does not celebrate diversity as the college kiddies imagine.
The establishment is a joke, they pretend to human equality but have yet to provide any proof.
#4 by shari on 03/26/2009 - 9:04 am
Hugh Hefner is a pimp. The women may be beautiful, but they don’t care who is looking at them, of ANY race. “As a jewel in a pigs snout, so is a beautiful woman without discretion.”
#5 by Dave on 03/26/2009 - 2:35 pm
Never doubt the Establishment’s commitment to the fictional world it resides in.
Having chosen to lie, it is committed to lies, regardless of how blatantly it is confronted by the truth. This is not by choice. It is the moral order of the world.
Woe be to those who give their loyalty to these lies, the situation of all of those who take their pay and exchange their obeisance in return.
This is situation of America’s police and it’s military. It is why they are destined to know nothing but defeat.
#6 by Simmons on 03/26/2009 - 5:07 pm
Trading points with liars has not been productive and as Bob mentions their lies are built upon force so thru this they limit debate.
Honestly I am not impressed with any of them, they are a joke whose fortune it is to have insecure wordists opposing them. I can go onto any lib site pick out a PHD ringleader and within minutes have that person in a rage all without trading a single point. When you build your worldview upon assumptions it is pretty much game over, and game is over for the libs.
Decades spent reading musty books, respectable magazines, listening to blowhard radiohosts all so we can place our points in row and hope they connect in a powerful wordist rebuttal and it has failed. Bob pens the Mantra, rhetorically asks the libs why they are anti-white genociders and the world turns.
#7 by Tim on 03/26/2009 - 9:28 pm
Bob,
What years where you in the South Side of Chicago over busing?
Our talking points are simple practical politics. They are designed to start Velvet Revolutions. Velvet Revolutions are in vogue around the world. We got the message. And we got a new idea that will help get it out.
Our people get turned off by Practical Politics and things like “staying on message”. They THINK talking points have something necessarily to do with running for office. Maybe we should use a sexy title Velvet Revolution. It all starts with a common sense of oppression and talking points that point that out –time and time again. We got the environment right now all over the white world for that to fly.
Our side is pretty much prepared for everything…….but eventually winning.
#8 by Simmons on 03/27/2009 - 11:04 am
“Talking points” are for the rubes, a necessary evil for those with little imagination or of any hope of independent thought. One day the Mantra will be a talking point, let us hope for this. But for now we are stuck with News and Jews from the pliers of semi-respectability. Who not once seek to pull up the root of liberalism, shake the soil from it and allow it to dry and turn to dust. Take the Mantra to any site right now and the way it is presented “talking points” and the host comes back with his own talking points and then the Mantra at best is only left in the back of that persons conscious behind the News and the Jews.
Frankly speaking politics as discussed today is like the woman’s coffee klutch, a bunch of hens cackling not really listening, but waiting for one of the hens to stumble from respectability so the rest can pluck out her tail feathers.
The Mantra must be forced upon the minds of our best, whose minds now are cluttered with N&J, to do this is how Bob took my mind off some stupid Peak Oil point I was trying to make some time ago. He forced me to answer his question about what was important, he made me answer hence think about what I had to say. My talking points no matter how well thought out (and they were) did not matter and from that day on I became BUGs useful. Our best need to concentrate their minds on the genocide at hand not worry about this week’s outrage or of trying to arrange talking points in perfect working order in order to hit the moving target of the lib kiddies narcisicism.
#9 by Simmons on 03/27/2009 - 11:27 am
The thread over at SF shows how the lib kiddies operate, they simply cannot be pinned down with any ease if you trade points with them. Those kids on that thread refuse to take responisbility for liberalism and genocide. The last post by a Bugster put the Mantra into talking point fashion, and while it is always great to read it probably skipped off the lib kiddies slippery hide.
Liberalism is composed of various cults and sub cults its cultees never ever accepting responsibility for anything ever. If they were to start accepting responsibility once they were indoctrinated they would would mentally break down. Mental breakdown was how they were taken and indoctrinated in the first place.
You must ask them direct questions, best done in a soothing tone. For example you could start by asking any one or all of those kids “What is diversity?” and then proceed from there. We are deprogramming a cult here, at SF it is personal one on one, but from there we are going to learn how to do it on mass scale.
Shreiking at these cultees is counterproductive it stokes their outsized egos and “self esteem.” But this narcisicism is their biggest weakness because if gently prodded they will always feel the need to respond to ever greater amounts of mental pressure if applied with care.
What we want is in the future for the true believers of the lib cults is to come right out with their calls for genocide, and they will do this once we ratchet up the pressure on their mental faculties. I got this from Bob when I asked him what to do when I got a cultee to admit to genocidal thoughts, “make them say it louder.” Like the Jim Jones cult, its extremism unmasked, concluded it in logical fashion.
But that should be concluded by Bob when he feels up to it.
#10 by Shane on 03/27/2009 - 3:35 pm
simmons, I dought they will respond to the thread again.
They cannot answer the mantra so they ignore it.
#11 by Simmons on 03/28/2009 - 10:05 am
I know they ignore it, I entrap them with their egos by asking them a series of questions as if I value their opinion, psychoanalysis. Ask them to define something and then they can act smart, hardly ever fails.
#12 by Shane on 03/28/2009 - 10:20 am
I don’t feel like getting down in the mud with them.
Why should I argue with a reel to reel tape recorder, when their silence is just as crushing of a defeat for them.
I’m glad that your method works well for you but I feel if I was to go about it your way I would open myself up to a line of attack or get pulled away from the topic of white genocide.
#13 by Simmons on 03/28/2009 - 10:47 am
Then you are a tape recorder as well, if it works for you then fine. But save yourself time and ask Don if you could just post the Mantra above each OV thread. Its not that I advocate caring about converting libs but to actually for them to take the killer virus Mantra back to their hive. Like the Star Trek NG episode where they program a Borg with seditious views and then send it back to the collective.
Maybe a year ago I read where some kook lib white anti-white who was a muckety muck from some Canadian anti white org. (human rights)was a poster at SF. Now there is a target, a pure egotistical maniac brimming with self centered virtue and just waiting to be sucked into the Mantra.
The day we get one of the big time cult leaders trying to refute white genocide is the day the revolution touches the big black monolith (ala 2001 Space Odyssey).
Now that would be a report from the front that Bob would be interested in.
#14 by Simmons on 03/29/2009 - 10:55 am
As far as getting others from our side to use the Mantra it will probably be more difficult than getting a lib kid to debate with you. Probably a third of the people who have ever shown up here have taken up its use or better still learned how to BUGs think. They are addicted to N&J and when they came here and the latest outrage was not posted they moved back to the boards where they could spout “talking points.” Look back at the posters who have shown up given us a “howdy folks”
and have never been seen again, N&J strikes again.
Never mind AR they are addicted to punditry, probably waiting for the Martians to invade so they can study their IQs and be the first to publicly pontificate about their superior IQs instead of focusing on the invasion.
But I think we need to prioritize the need to get more allies, and I confess that I have been sidetracked on that as much or more than anyone here. I have been working AR and V-dare but so far they are resistant actually stating that anti-racists are anti-white. And the principals there still use the word “racist” even when it has no discernable definition, so they need alot of work.