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Is GC5 Getting Off Track?

Posted by Bob on December 1st, 2010 under Coaching Session, Comment Responses

I am not a Leader or a big-T Teacher, like Buddha or Confucius.

I am a coach.

So I don’t tell you to play the game, I try to instill discipline into it. This training is based, not on some new theory I have come up with, but with learning by doing. General Comments 5 has become a dream in this respect, and I don’t want to lose it.

Recently one person on GC5 asked about dealing with a freaky girl who says she is pro-white but wants to insist that there is no genocide without violence. I wrote a piece about that, giving the advice that any coach would give, put it to her and then get out of it.

Stay in the game. Stay on message.

But this thread goes on and on. Less and less people in General Comments 5 seem to be coming back from actually trying things and talking about their experiences and going into the familiar old Stormfront theorizing.

Someone suggested “a new approach,” which can be good or disastrous. It is good if it is based on PRACTICE, but no results of such practice were mentioned.

This worries the Old Coach a LOT.

This is what a Coach is FOR on the first place. The Coach is not always right. The Coach tends to see what you do wrong rather than what you do right.

As I said earlier, I am always nervous that GC5 will get off track. It seems too good to be true.

My worry is increased when an endless string seems to have begun on this girl who argues about what genocide is. Anyone who is familiar with Stormfront will recognize the symptoms.

But no one explained BUGS to this person.

When a New Idea is brought up, I need for our regulars to insert the discipline on their own. Coaching would be pointless if it did not produce new coaches.

The other, separate, incident worries me. If you have a better approach, fine. But try it first.

Imagine a couple of guys coming in to the Coach with a new theory of passing. The Coach will ask, first, “How did it work when you tried it?”

“Well, coach, we only tried it a couple of times, and there was no defense. But it’s a terrific theory. Instead of practice, let’s get the whole team together and talk about it.”

That is good enough for Stormfront, but I was hoping that GC5 had moved from the Junior High School team to the pros.

  1. #1 by OldBlighty on 12/01/2010 - 7:54 am

    Sorry Coach, you are absolutely right. We need to stay focused on what we are here to do.

  2. #2 by Simmons on 12/01/2010 - 11:08 am

    Bob see post #40 GC5. The pull of Mommy Professor is strong and those posters you chastise still think they are sitting in the classroom, and one pithy party line quote from “respectablity.” Everyone does this, Hunter Wallace at OD, his nemesis Harold Covington, David Duke, James Edwards and king supremo of respectability Jared Taylor.

    I will ask this rhetorical question, “What is the hardest phrase for those above named gentlemen to say?”

    “Anti-white” because they fear a loss of respectability from the Mommy Profs and their Bots. “Anti-white” is not in MP’s dictionary, therefore not respectably intellectual.

    “Anti-white” is the phrase that leads into Mantra logic directly from the Mantra.

    It is really quite simple eg; Bianca you are an anti-white.

  3. #3 by Simmons on 12/01/2010 - 11:15 am

    Those wishing to see an example of a MP trained white nationalist check out Kuntsler’s peak oil blog and look for the posts by Vlad Kranz. He craves the notion of respectability more than winning and destroying the anti-whites (ftr he is one of Covington’s people, big suprise).

    He is one phrase and a bit of Mantra from destroying those cultists and then he goes back to respectability. Never mind his foes all mindless bots, but he never will tag them with the anti-white moniker (he did use “anti-gentile”).

    Vlad Kranz you are failing.

    End of soapbox rant, off to tell Peter Brimelow that if they don’t start using the term “anti-white” to desribe the hate mongering cultists and their enabling respectables, no more money.

  4. #4 by Gator61 on 12/01/2010 - 11:41 am

    I’m guilty of posting ideas without listing the results I’ve got myself. I do have a reason for that. Sometimes an idea will occur to me when I’m not near a real computer. GC5 is easy to post on with my bb. If it is a good idea, I figure someone else will give it a try. If it is a bad idea, then BUGS will let me know.

  5. #5 by Wandrin on 12/01/2010 - 4:43 pm

    ” It is good if it is based on PRACTICE, but no results of such practice were mentioned.”

    I think SF is different as antis go there to play knowing there’s no neutrals to worry about. If you use this stuff on neutral sites what happens is there’s a big war as all the kommisars come out to attack you. Their tactics are:

    1) racistnazi blah blah to intimidate and make you shut up.
    2) various ad hominems to make you angry and say something naughty
    3) try and drag you off your point

    You stay calm, call them anti-white racists to cancel out the “racist” attack and stick to the one point you’re making without any deviation. As long as your point hurts e.g genocide or one of the other multicult double standards, they eventually give in because they don’t want the neutrals to hear what you have to say.

    After the first war and a few subsequent skirmishs they just snipe from the sidelines or try and get you banned but otherwise they try and avoid engaging because they know it will hurt them more with the audience. Once i’ve fully won in a forum i move on to another.

    It’s probably different at SF though because the antis are not worried about the audience so much and it’s difficult knowing how to deal with people who are supposed to be on the same side. At least i always find that hard.

  6. #6 by Scrivener on 12/01/2010 - 10:10 pm

    I’m a recovering tome writer, Bob. Don’t worry, I’m working on it and I do see it in myself.

    I also will be using the War on Christmas for plugging the mantra where possible. I just posted the idea here first because I’m excited about it. The lead-in format is actually based on something I used to some critical success on OV before (involving compliments for you in my rep feed):
    Sorry, I’m having a little trouble here. Is this your justification for genocide by uncontrolled immigration, integration, and assimilation (i.e. intermarriage)?

    Egalitarians like to say that there is this race problem, and that this race problem often involves Whites wanting to keep their communities to themselves, or other things that Whites like to do. They say that the solution to this race problem is for the third world to pour into every White country and only into White countries.

  7. #7 by OldBlighty on 12/01/2010 - 10:51 pm

    CassandraBellatrix has just dropped some Mantra bait at the Hannity forums. Just waiting for someone to take it.


    America, Canada, Europe, UK, Australia or New Zealand
    As the nations listed above are the only ones, that decided to replace their original homogeneous European peoples with ones that are racially diverse

  8. #8 by Dick_Whitman on 12/02/2010 - 6:06 am

    We have a system where non-whites are pushed into White countries via legal and illegal immigration; against the wishes of the majority of the population.

    Laws are then passed which makes it illegal for Whites to maintain White communities, institutions, and businesses.

    We have an education system that aggressively pushes a historical narrative that frames White people as the root of all evil.

    On top of that there is an anti-White information campaign in the movies, TV, and even commercials that openly advocates and celebrates racial mixing. There is an especially heavy emphasis on White women mixing with black males. White men are portrayed as incompetent, weak, and incapable of pleasing women sexually.

    If White people attempt to organize against this system they are portrayed as having deep moral and psychological deficiencies and are sanctioned with the losses of career opportunities and even losses of freedom.

    This is clearly a system of oppression that will (if left to its logical conclusion) result in the destruction of the White race. If White people had a choice they would 1) cut off non-white immigration, 2) run their own institutions, 3) create a positive narrative in the education system, 4) operate information campaigns that celebrate White families and White children.


    Therefore, White people are victims of an organized program that will result in their destruction.

    This is genocide by UN standards.

    The only thing we’re missing is documented evidence stating the intent of this program and the parties involved in carrying it out (although this wasn’t necessary during the Nuremberg trails).

    Wikileaks Anyone?

  9. #9 by Scrivener on 12/05/2010 - 3:32 pm

    CassandraBellatrix has just dropped some Mantra bait at the Hannity forums. Just waiting for someone to take it.


    Mantra bait finally taken. We’ll see if CassandraBellatrix follows up. It’ll also be interesting to see how the mods over there react.

  10. #10 by Scrivener on 12/05/2010 - 3:48 pm

    This may be a near repost… I’m experiencing technical difficulties.

    CassandraBellatrix has just dropped some Mantra bait at the Hannity forums. Just waiting for someone to take it.


    Mantra bait has been taken. Now, we’ll see if Cassandra Bellatrix comes back with a Mantra response.

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