Stormfront is having a discussion of the Genius Conspiracy that caused Pearl Harbor. When those folks consider the Conspiracy, they are looking at CIA agents who make James Bond look like a typist.
My picture of the Geniuses is a little different. In fact, what always comes to my mind is the incident of the Burn Bags.
OPM, where I was a Reagan appointee, had to deal with the employment of all civilian employees that were on budget. The CIA itself is off budget. But the Defense Intelligence Agency and the like are on budget.
Theoretically we dealt with a lot of highly classified stuff. Actually, we farmed it out to the agency. But we had to handle our documents the way any agency that might be in on intelligence work had to do it.
We also had to CLEAR all civilian personnel.
We were, in short, among the Geniuses.
When something came across our desks in the Director’s Office that was what they call Top Secret, it went into the Burn Bag after we looked at it.
One day Reagan’s appointee as General Counsel in this agency handling highly classified material came to the our regular meeting with the Director with a request:
“Would you please order them to BURN the damned Burn Bags?”
Someone from his office had been in the furnace room and had actually stumbled over one of the high pile of Burn Bags they hadn’t gotten around to.
I was very uncomfortable, and the Director looked over and me without a word. I was in his line on staffing and security, the last person to see the stuff before it went to his office. I should have checked that sort of thing.
This was an evening meeting, when the “politicals” met after the regular folks had long since gone home. So I went and burned them myself. So I remember it well.
We were sloppy, but the CIA itself was sloppier.
When I hear people talking about The Beast, the Geniuses, about a dozen incidents like this come before me.
When Reagan needed some real manipulating done, he called in Ollie North, a new Lt. Colonel, to do it. When the congressman who got us into saving the Afghans in their rebellion against the USSR ended up going to the front himself, the CIA opposed him the way any bureaucracy would.
I have been in the Mouth of the Beast.
It strikes me as toothless.
#1 by Dick_Whitman on 12/19/2010 - 7:51 am
It just struck me that there’s an amazing contrast between Bob and Horus the White Rabbit when it comes to “conspiracies.” (or alternative research).
If Mommy professor really wanted his kids to learn something, he would have his students attempt to synergize Bob’s and Horus’s discourse on how power and influence changes global events.
Personally I struggle over whether they in some ways cancel each other out? But at this point I don’t they they do. They can both coexist.
What this teaches us is that if we put the Iron Question first, it doesn’t matter how you approach the on going workings of the universe. The world could change more randomly and less organized like Bob suggests, or it can be an interstellar, interdimensional cosmic war between Nordic God Men/Women and reptilians.
It doesn’t matter. The bottom line is that a people called “Whites” have decided that they have the right to exist according to their own scientific system and by their own spiritual symbolism.
If some grey aliens come down and tell us we have to flood White countries and only White counties with various races and zoological creatures from around the galaxy, I’d tell him/her/it that they’re advocating genocide, and I’ll go into Mantra talking points.
I challenge anything/anyone in the universe to convince me why any beings (who share feelings of solidarity) should have to accept obliteration by assimilation? Without even being allowed to discuss it?
#2 by Dick_Whitman on 12/19/2010 - 8:09 am
I repeat
“Without Even Being Allowed To Discuss it?!” (read this one more time)
You can not discuss, or even suggest that we discuss the possibility, that maybe, Whites don’t want their communities forced assimilated with “the developing world.”
If you even suggest this liberals and respectable conservatives on FOX News will call you “anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
They say they are “anti-racist.” What they are are anti-White. Anti-racism is a code for anti-White.
#3 by shari on 12/19/2010 - 10:09 am
The schemes REALLY won’t work now. Like Wylie E. Coyote, they have run off the cliff. They just haven’t looked down. Something bigger and worser could make a last ditch behind them. But don’t get sidetracked.
I don’t think that H and B cancel each other out either.
#4 by Gator61 on 12/19/2010 - 10:36 am
I think the point Bob is making is that the people who are cramming this genocide down our throats are no smarter or more organized than we are.
About ten years ago I went through a custody fight. Part of that fight included a psychological evaluation. Part of that evaluation was an IQ test. I was horrified when I saw the results. Turns out that I have pretty high IQ. Not genius, but up there. Why would this horrify me? Prior to that I believed I was average or maybe a little above. When I got the results I realized that most of the people running things were not as smart as me and if that was the case the world was screwed.
The point is the people who have had it in for us aren’t all that bright. They just knew how to get their way by shouting “RACIST”. Now we have Bob on our side who is telling us how to get our was by saying the Mantra.
#5 by Dick_Whitman on 12/19/2010 - 11:35 am
“I realized that most of the people running things were not as smart as me and if that was the case the world was screwed.” (Gator61).
I have a similar experience when I meet people with impressive job titles. I meet them and think “this is an investment banker?” Or “this is a VP of marketing?” Or “this is a professor emeritus?” Or “this is an artist?”
Was it Woody Allen who said “90% of life is just showing up?” This is a wise saying.
#6 by Dave on 12/19/2010 - 11:39 am
You have to get the importance of basic thinking.
Robert Whitaker’s point here is not trivial. It is everything.
All people do is cut deals for themselves. You take away the paycheck, the Establishment doesn’t exist.
Stop being impressed with the paycheck. You can pay people to do literally anything.
I can walk down any Indian street in Delhi and get a foot massage for a few rupees (1/20th of a cent). In almost any American town I can find one of those desperate Sudanese refugees to muck out my toilets for $5/hour. Prostitutes are everywhere for a nickel.
You can pay most politicians to commit any treason if the price is right. And treason is what they do commit, because the price is usually right and it doesn’t take much. The American military sells out America 24 x 7 because all that matters to the military is the splendid royal (and they truly are royal in every sense of term) of admirals and generals who are never held accountable for anything under any circumstances ever and DOD contractor executives pulling down 20 million dollars a year on the DOD tit selling incredibly and unbelievably overpriced trash to the military in a system of pure waste so vast the imagination cannot comprehend it. Meanwhile, the so-called most powerful military in the world cannot defeat sixth rate powers (not even third rate). Hell, the American military cannot even defeat an ordinary street gang! (What in the hell do you think the “Taliban” actually is?)
Here is the real contribution of an admiral to America: He crams food into his mouth he is clueless to grow or prepare and he walks down the hall to take a dump in a toilet he is clueless and hopeless to plumb. That is the sum total of his contribution. You are unbelievably stupid if you think there is anything more to it.
You call this power?
I can walk into one of those just off the Indian Reservation taverns you find out West where there is a poster of a chimpanzee holding a mug of beer behind the bar with the caption “Booze is the Only Thing That Matters” and find just as much power. Surrounding me are drunk Indians and the stench of stale beer and they are all carrying on and arguing with each other about their theories of the way the world works paying for their beer with the stipends they get from their tribal government that comes from the land the tribe leases to white farmers.
That is the deal those Indians have cut for themselves. What is the difference between them and the Establishment?
And you think they have power?
We have got to get over being impressed with the Establishment and their uniformed stumble bunnies. It is the worst delusion we have.
We are the ones in power. They are crap, pure ridiculous unadulterated crap. If you do not know that, you are not seeing SIMPLE reality.
#7 by Genseric on 12/19/2010 - 11:52 am
[Quote]I have been in the Mouth of the Beast.
It strikes me as toothless.[/Quote]
That’s because you were the one last sharp tooth in the mouth. Now that you are no longer there, it is most definitely toothless. The fact that you are here and not on Fox News as a “faux news contributor” is proof positive of that FACT.
Never sell yourself short, Herr Whitaker.
What I want to know is, “What are we going to do when our ‘dog’ manages to catch that bus?”