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Demanding Free Speech is the High Ground

Posted by Bob on January 31st, 2011 under Coaching Session

In General Comments (link at top of this page) one pro-white pointed out that one attack consisted of what pro-whites on SF are always saying: It’s too late to save the white race.

The commentator was too wise to fall into that trap.

This “too late” business is a prophet only tactic they have against the Mantra: getting off the subject. Look at the Mantra. What is says is that white genocide is a legitimate topic of discussion on what is a legitimate subject of concern to white people.

The Mantra points out that this would be a natural topic of concern for BLACK people under the same conditions. Like amateurs in Stormfront, anti-whites want to go straight into the hopelessness of it all, which shows why the SFers are amateurs: They make the anti-whites’ points FOR them.

Kicking into your own goal is a great way to lose.

The answer to this is, as I say, IN the Mantra. This is a legitimate concern of white people. What is the first thing an intelligent human being does when faced with a legitimate problem?


Anti-whites use this “hopeless” business to SUPPRESS any DISCUSSION of a legitimate problem. We refuse to get into solutions — like the Final Solution to the White Problem they are pushing under the euphemism “race” problem — until we are allowed to DISCUSS our legitimate concern.

Right now we are saying we should not be called racists to gag us from talking about white genocide.

Another GC 5 pro-white quoted a anti-white as saying we were just whining. He said we are complaining because WE don’t have enough children. This is the same mistake Lord Nelson was falling into and immediately got out of as soon as I called him on it:

This is not just immigration and “being overwhelmed by numbers,” it is the fact that any time someone presses intermarriage as a “solution” he has in mind that one of the partners is white. “Assimilation” is being pressed as a Final Solution to the WHITE Problem, not the “race” problem.

Keep YOUR objective in mind. Those who attack us are NEVER doing it to DISCUSS white genocide, they are ALWAYS demanding that all discussion of it be SUPPRESSED.

Our goal now is to argue that we have a right to discuss this without being yelled at or arrested. We deserve the same public forum freedom of speech allows anyone. It is the thugs attacking and screaming down our spokesmen that freedom of speech is designed to stop.

  1. #1 by Gavin on 01/31/2011 - 7:38 am

    Considering all the reponses that I get which either outright deny the genocide, try to justify it, or just hurl insults at me, a response where an anti-white admits it is happening but says “it’s to late to stop it” is a welcome response.

    I of course don’t let them off the hook, however I hadn’t given thought to why they were doing this. The fact that it’s a tactic to suppress discussion makes a lot of sense and I’ll be sure to incorporate that in my future engagements with anti-whites.

    • #2 by OldBlighty on 01/31/2011 - 12:04 pm

      I have been interrogated as to what my goal is. My honest answer is genocide tribunals. Whatever happens after that is out of my hands.

      It is never too late to hold genocide tribunals and I have no doubt, all of the “roadblocks” opposing white survival, will vanish in a puff of smoke, once they begin.

  2. #3 by Oh Elizabeth on 01/31/2011 - 9:04 am

    We should be quite relieved to know that we have free speech guaranteed by Obama.

    In his speech of January 28, 2011 Obama said: “The people of Egypt have rights that are universal. That includes the right to peaceful assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the ability to determine their own destiny. These are human rights. And the United States will stand up for them everywhere.”

    I think he meant that the US would stand up for them in the US. Or maybe he meant everywhere else.

  3. #4 by BGLass on 01/31/2011 - 9:40 am

    “… any time someone presses intermarriage as a “solution” he has in mind that one of the partners is white…”

    This turns into a useful question: “Now Quick! What is in your mind? How do you visualize to yourself this couple you’re talking to me about?” They will have to say, and that will make the argument.

    This Prophet Tactic is their most lethal weapon. All is a fait accompli. It goes along with “It must happen. It has to happen. It’s happening whether you like it or not,” etc. Emphatically, with force, it’s said all the time “it must…”

    So: Who are you? God? Did he make you a prophet? A seer? When did you get this crystal ball? Please, tell us about this divine visitation! You also said you’re an atheist! So, how’s that work out, lmao?

    Asking people for this sort of clarification really helps. They never expect others to hold them to their word, and have to explain this grand prophecy.

    Was talking to a parent who was aware of “zero population growth,” the “browning of america,” which carried this sense of Prophet-Tactic, a fait accompli, when used in past. But he thought “things were different now.” But in fact, it is way worse than the 60s; he is blocking it, though, and cannot hear it.

    Eg: Daily is this Countdown to Extinction on t.v. When will whites be gone: 2013? 2044? Oh! Sooner than predicted, 2043!

    Debate is framed, and only a question of which year genocide is complete. A vid calling out the tactic, itself is good— just showing them doing it. Just laughing at it— laughing at the hubris of calling themselves God, of saying they are Fate incarnate.

    White kids, hearing things s/a Countdown to White Extinction, may not want children. Zero population worked that way. Kids not only don’t have sophistication to see through it, even if they did, the idea is so evil, that the adults around them block it out, unable to cope.

    Non-existence is going to happen soon! And grownups want this! No one does anything to stop this! No one even cares.

  4. #5 by Peter Whiterabbit on 01/31/2011 - 10:16 am

    I have attacked this in two different ways. First I describe a TV program that I watched recently which featured a pilot and stewardess describing flight 232 plane crash. Both knew they were in an almost impossible situation but they DID THEIR JOBS. They survived and helped others get out of the plane before it was completely engulfed in flames. They could have just been paralyzed with fear or felt sorry for themselves and been burned alive. Because after all, how many survive a plane crash? Of course it sounds silly but that is how many prowhites react to our situation with their all hope is lost mindset. Our job is to point out over and over again…then the mantra.

    Sometimes they insist all hope is lost and they want to hide in their rabbit hole and wait for rahowa. I tell them while they wait, woukd they mind saying this over and over and over again, then the mantra.

  5. #6 by Simmons on 01/31/2011 - 10:25 am

    Does this mean we are “Holocaust survivors?”

    Our current overlords are as big a joke as Jim Jones.

    Reactionairies peddle the all is lost but send money anyway shtick so we can slow it all down shtick. Put AmRen in that camp, they play by mommy prof’s rules.

    History lesson for those of you bummed by Taylor’s anemic response to the anti-whites (Bob feel free to correct me here)

    In 1976 the ComSymps were riding high, the respectables of our side were low in morale. By 1984 the ComSymps were shrieking reactionairies, and by 1990 the ComSymps became enviromentalists, and consigning their one time support for communism in the PC vault.

    Why or how was this turnaround accomplished?
    The USSR was branded as the “Evil Empire” Then one single question was asked and the cult of the USSR and the USSR disappeared.

    “Why not beat the Evil Empire?”

    The Mantra is from where the next cult (anti-Whites) killer question will spring. The anti-Whites will become reationairies.

  6. #7 by dungeoneer on 01/31/2011 - 11:00 am

    Just look at this anti-White collapse-in-motion:

    But our governments have no real wish to put an end to this genocide and since our governments are democratically elected, we must conclude that our people don’t really want to stop it either.

    That’s why pro-whites must separate from anti-whites and move to a country where they have more chances to become the majority one day. Whites must play the global game.

    chemerich 48 minutes ago

    My reply:

    Well let`s have free and fair debate on TV with all the ugly facts given a good going over and then see how many Whites will voluntarily opt for elimination.

    We`ll see how popular you “anti-racists”(anti-Whites) are after being defrocked as the supporters of White genocide that you are.

    dungeoncrawler55 14 minutes ago

    I can see it now:

    “Tonights`s question for our studio audience and the viewers at home:

    Are you pro-White,or pro-White genocide?

    dungeoncrawler55 13 minutes ago


    I`m now sending pro-Whites this form letter as a side mission:

    Racial greetings comrade.

    The opposition has no defence against this type of comment:

    “Anti-racists”(anti-Whites) are advocating White genocide in contravention of the 1948 genocide convention.

    They refuse to accept that the convention`s wording “………..racial group…….” applies to White people.


    Please visit White Rabbit Radio and Bob`s Underground Graduate Seminar and help us in destroying the “anti-racist”(anti-White) movement.

    You BUGS people have turned me into a shameless spammer!

  7. #8 by H.Avenger on 01/31/2011 - 12:52 pm

    IF I were on a planet with a bunch white people and they were not saying “all hope is lost”. I would be scared to death something ominous was going to happen.

    I have always used “all hope is lost” as a reverse indicator. When you start hearing that all the time from white people you are probably on the eve of winning something big. Or maybe you already won some battle and don’t even know about it yet.

    All hope is lost or it’s too late ….are actually a sign that you are right on time.

    Ole Bob has a great faculty for history. He can dazzle you with actual historical episodes. It is quite shocking how many times in the past OUR “Vanguard Elite” were running around talking about how “it’s too late …all hope is lost”. Then a bunch whites go on a win something….like the America Revolution. And what is funniest about all these episodes. We never learn from them. When the NEXT group of “all hope is lost” fools starts their defeatist BS. They always forget about the previous group who did the same thing and ended up eating crow afterward.

    no change = no change

  8. #9 by Oh Elizabeth on 01/31/2011 - 1:17 pm

    Roger Hedgecock has an article on World Net Daily today that says we are all mixed race now so we don’t have to worry about it anymore.

    http:// www.

    I think that when he gets what he wants, he will see what anti-white really looks like on steroids.

  9. #10 by dungeoneer on 01/31/2011 - 2:43 pm

    Oh Elizabeth,welcome to BUGS.

    That link is taking me to a Google results page.

  10. #11 by Simmons on 01/31/2011 - 3:08 pm

    Elizabeth the answer to that bit of stupidity by a “respectable” lies within the Mantra. No one is going to an African, Asian or Jewish nation and calling them racial mongrels only white countries and white countries only.

    Welcome to our support group.

  11. #12 by Genseric on 05/31/2011 - 1:54 pm

    Re-read this piece today and the following passage applies to an encounter I had recently.

    We deserve the same public forum freedom of speech allows anyone. It is the thugs attacking and screaming down our spokesmen that freedom of speech is designed to stop.

    Not too long ago, I was advocating for the opportunity to discuss genocide against white children in an online comments section (YewToob) and called an anti-White out on his attempt to ‘silence’ me.

    He and another anti-White proceeded to theorize that I might be a ‘terrorist’ trying to create racial animosity and violence. And that our ‘extremist group’ is prone to violence. I asked him point blank if he was trying to infringe upon my right to Free Speech. He tried flipping it on me, but was unsuccessful.

    A BUGSter lurking in the corner of the room saw this and even added, “You’re just calling Genseric a ‘terrorist’ because he is White. You say you are anti-racist. What you are is anti-White. Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-White.” It truly was quite fascinating.

    They used:
    Threats & Intimidation
    Laws (their interpretation of/lack of knowledge of)

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