On commenter wanted to know why, since we expect to punish today’s anti-whites endlessly and keep minds on white genocide by paid informers, “Can’t we threaten anti-whites that they will be punished?”
The coach, as diplomatic as ever, answers, “No, because you amateurs can’t handle it.”
As soon as we got to a discussion of how to handle today’s anti-whites and preserve our race, commenters began babbling about “against he wall!” and “tribunals” and all the other old Stormfront crap.
No matter how carefully I outlined the PERMANENCE of the paid informer program, commenters begin to drool about “tribunals” and “revenge.”
So, not until you are able to stop dribbling like this, wandering into the old worn paths of the losers before you, I can’t see ANY of this dribbling without recommending you stay off it til you can HANDLE it.
Dribbling is when somebody has completely beaten down the standard other side positions, and, finding themselves winning for once, immediately commence dribbling out into “the Jews.” or other standard stuff.
One guy changed the Mantra. He said that one of categories white countries were forced to allow to immigrate were “Jewish bankers.”
No, gang, I don’t want you experimenting with grown up stuff until you grow up some.
#1 by Jason Here on 04/16/2012 - 6:36 am
The temptation to hotdog is so strong. But we are playing a long gang. It’s hard to remember in the heat of battle, but we always have a public watching us. Most of what we do is to impress a normal White audience. We have the moral high ground and should act like it. It’s not always easy, but go ahead and let the other guy call you a d*ck. Come back calm, moral and well reasoned. Tell him he seems to have anger management issues if you must, then make your point and move on. It makes him look like an idiot. I’m trying to get there.
#2 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/16/2012 - 8:38 am
“Tell him he seems to have anger management issues if you must, then make your point and move on. It makes him look like an idiot.”
I like!
Hm, but it’s easy to be tempted into making quips though that really are tailgating, instead of turning it back to Mantra. I was just going to write that the next time I was accused of hating, I’d respond,
“The typical anti-White is hate in a bottle. You say ‘White Genocide’ to him and his cork pops and hate gushes out.”
But wouldn’t it be better to respond,
“African countries aren’t being flooded with non-Africans and Africans being legally forced to assimilate with them and be blended out of existence, and any Africans who object being told they are ‘haters’.
“Asian countries…(etc.)
“Only White countries…(etc.)”
And then if he persists, to respond, “I repeat: (same thing as just said, or, “What African country would you recommend be flooded…(etc.)…and Africans who object be called ‘haters’?”)
I’m not automatic with this yet, and I’m just beginning to ask questions and persist with them.
I was going to say that in a long exchange a quip can be good, but I want to rethink even that….our effort should always be to turn it back to the Mantra so that we repeat the Mantra points and phrases over and over and over. There’s plenty of room for creativity in trying to find a way to do that in each post that isn’t just repeating one’s previous post.
Still, in some extended youtube exchange I know I’m going to tell some anti-White now, “You seem to have anger management issues.” ! I think it works as a refreshing sip of something different to loosen up the audience for more Mantra, Mantra, Mantra.
No! Here we go: “You seem to have anger management issues when presenting your point that you are an anti-White who supports White Genocide….(etc. etc. Mantra point)”
Alright! 🙂
Well you had it right to begin with: make the quip “if you must,” then make your (Mantra) point and move on.
#3 by Jason Here on 04/16/2012 - 8:11 pm
Oh I just thought of something you’ve probably heard about lawyers. The line is, when they have the law on their side, they pound the law. When they have the facts (but maybe not the law) on their side, they pound the facts. When they don’t have either law or facts on their side, they pound the table (that is make a lot of noise and distract)! We have the law (UN Treaty on Genocide) and the facts on our side, so that’s where we should be.
The anti-Whites will pound the table because that’s all they have. We should always be taking the conversation back to facts and law.
#4 by Jason Here on 04/16/2012 - 6:48 am
By the way, someone told me to stop tailgating on one of the YouTube sites the other day. Thanks to whoever it was. It’s a real bad habit to start debating a guy that will never change – huge time waster. I’m learning. Right now, I am just carpet bombing – lol.
#5 by Jason Here on 04/16/2012 - 7:12 am
Last post I swear. I have two questions for Bob if he gets a chance sometime. This is pure self-indulgence, not BUG work, so no hurry.
1. Are there any especially good history books or authors you recommend about WWII and the “Civil War”? It doesn’t have to be about those eras, any outstanding history book would be interesting. I’m more interested in the policies and social side of history than a rundown of military battles. You said in one of your talks that if the South had seceded in 1850, it probably could have won. I find that kind of thing fascinating. I have read Albion’s Seed recently and found it fascinating.
2. Who financed LaRouche? I used to see that guy buy 30 minute ads on national TV. Did you political guys ever discuss it? Sure seemed like the guy had big financing from someone.
#6 by Gavin on 04/16/2012 - 7:19 am
We must concentrate on what will be BEST for our race long-term. If tribunals are the best option then that is fine…but don’t just push for them for no reason other than that’s what is written down somewhere.
#7 by Genseric on 04/16/2012 - 8:42 am
“One guy changed the Mantra. He said that one of categories white countries were forced to allow to immigrate were “Jewish bankers.” – Bob
That Occupy Wall Street (OWS) experiment failed miserably. And at the time I wondered WHY the anti-whites let me get away with it. Coach pointed this out to me as being “WORSE than posting nothing at all.” Ouch! Then, I thought of coach and what he said about how “the worst thing you can say is what your enemy ALLOWS you to say.” Damn!
Needless to say, I never went back to that failed attempt, ever. What you must realize is Bob is a far more patient man than most of US would be, given the same amount of experience he possesses and the suffering of idiots like me he has endured.
Thank you, Bob.
#8 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/16/2012 - 8:58 am
“the worst thing you can say is what your enemy ALLOWS you to say.”
Ohhh. I missed that one! That’s helpful.
Nice post. I’d never before thought of Bob as being patient, but now I see it.
#9 by Simmons on 04/16/2012 - 9:22 am
I agree with Bob 1,000,000%, this old SF type crap over violence is nothing more than selfish self-centered emotional therapy. The government agencies and the anti-white orgs paid good money for that kind of crap, it is and was all junk.
The Mantra destroys what Mr. and Mrs. Nice People have coveted since the end of 1945, the “niceness of anti-racist credentials.”
#10 by Simmons on 04/16/2012 - 12:39 pm
Before the Stormfront NS types want to find and kick my old butt, I would like to clarify myself. Those who organized and participated in the Boer genocide protest have my deepest respect, they were effective. I monitored the Kos thread that was posted by a serious anti-white and he was basically told as were the others to basically shut up.
I wonder what the Feds thought when the orgs they surveil decided to protest the genocide of whites instead of the usual muds an kikes routine?
#11 by Dave on 04/16/2012 - 9:40 am
The Mantra and Mantra thinking is also a form of training in the skills of being an interrogator. Interrogation is not a “let the chips fall where they may” process. To the contrary, it is a process of driving things to a highly defined result.
When the interrogator succeeds in extracting admissions of error from the subject he or she is interrogating, the issue of remorse arises and a lack of remorse is very damning to the subject. That is one context of “punishment” and something to keep in mind. But let us not get ahead of ourselves. Our task is developing skill in interrogating the anti-white whites and nonwhite anti-whites and a skilled interrogator is also fit to ward off succumbing when being interrogated by our Establishment opponents in return.
#12 by ANOTHERWHITERABBIT on 04/16/2012 - 1:29 pm
when you start screaming and acting just like their jumping up and down screaming nigger and talking about tribunals it scares off whites that may be possibly awaken because you look nuts. We need to be taken seriously not nuts. plus killing the bankster doesnt take away from his 2 year old hier from benifeting financially from White genocide we all know that the elites love their money so it also hits them where it hurts a lot of them rather be dead then poor so if revenge is what you want the best way is hit the pockets off them genocidal bastards plus a tax every once in awhile to the culprits who pushed for our genocide is a constant reminder to not try to kill us again
#13 by herrMajor on 04/16/2012 - 5:11 pm
“No, gang, I don’t want you experimenting with grown up stuff until you grow up some.”
You first Bob, the fantasy of “Informer systems” just don’t work. Like democracy ,it is just a big lie to keep the people suppressed.
Of all people should know it was the starvation,mass-rapes, mutilations, and slaughter of the southern women and children that drove the south to eventually lose.
We are fighting a WAR, W-A-R. Race wars are a fantasy only because you are preparing for a war that is already happening RIGHT NOW. It’s war, don’t be so #^&ing stupid and arrogant to think that if you let your enemy live they won’t come back a few hundred years and slaughter and starve your children to our extermination.
It was the genital mutilation of the Nuremberg trails that really signed the Nazi party’s confessions in, it was the merciless slaughter of German children through terror-bombings that destroyed the soul of the German people and broke their will to fight back against a war of extermination.
You grow up first Bob, tattle-tale systems won’t have the teeth to save my grandchildren from ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY THE SAME PEOPLE FOR WHITE EXTERMINATION. Little or no money, they will come back, and I’m not going to risk that.
You will have to work with people you hate, you will have to work with people who’s religion you find revolting, you will have to work with your people who will disagree with you. Because it’s not about what you say, or I say, IT’S ABOUT OUR RACE, and if we LIVE… OR DIE.
#14 by Jason Here on 04/16/2012 - 8:03 pm
I don’t understand your complaint. The informer system would be one tool among many to help preserve White society. As to harsher techniques, well, notice the North didn’t OPENLY BRAG ON PUBLIC BOARDS about how they were going to burn cities to the ground, rape women. and make people suffer. No, they portrayed themselves as morally superior liberators. What’s hard to understand about that? That is propaganda. You portray yourself as good and rational and your enemy as hateful.
If you run around right now beating your chest about how you will make the world run red with blood, you lose. That’s it, period. No one can predict what will actually happen once enough Whites are empowered and the anti-Whites are neutralized. Who knows, it’s unpredictable. But this chest-beating is counterproductive.
#15 by Genseric on 04/17/2012 - 8:41 am
We want compensation, Dude. That is the goal here.
The militants, whatever their agenda, will have to be financed somehow. Dontchyathink?
Now…Do you think TALKING about this is going to further aide in fighting White genocide? Stay on point.
#16 by H.Avenger on 04/17/2012 - 10:03 am
“herrMajor, so an informer system is just a myth to you real MEN, eh?
There is no open Terror right now, all that macho slamming people against the wall is not happening, but anything else is a myth, right?
So why aren’t you using your real name here?”
Bob wrote the above on the wrong thread. So I’ll post it here. You guys might note that I did a FTWR podcast talking about this. Be careful debating Bob about events that have yet to unfold. He is thinking long term. Most of the “tribunal” thinkers are short term thinkers. In other words, Bob may see something you don’t yet see. Keep that in mind.
IF you wake up one morning and most of the enemy that could be prosecuted under some law is gone. The only thing you have left are ASSETS used in our genocide. That is where understanding Bob’s idea will become a necessity (IMO). We have to think long term like Bob. And we will get surprise events (our race always does). Then we can be prepared for the long haul.
Anyone that thinks you can find out everything about our Genocide in “Nuremberg” tribunal is dreaming. EVEN IF our enemy were to get prosecuted in Tribunals. It would take us decades (maybe even a century) to get to the bottom of EVERYTHING. And we owe to future generations to get the bottom of this deal. The only system that can do that effectively is the “cash for traitors” system…..with NO statute of limitations.
#17 by Gar5 on 04/17/2012 - 1:41 pm
@ herrMajor
So you’re saying the first thing we should do after we take over is go on a killing spree?
Don’t you think that would cause the public to think twice about our movement?
We are here to save our race. We are NOT here to enact revenge.
#18 by David Joop on 04/16/2012 - 7:19 pm
Stay on message. Stay on message. Stay on message.
Got it.
#19 by Jason Here on 04/16/2012 - 7:51 pm
Bob is a professional who crafted messages for a living. We aren’t (I’m not anyway). Even smart, high performing politicians have to be told to shut up and stick to talking points. I’ve heard professionals hate with their guy goes “off script”. Nothing good happens.
I think Reagan won against communism when he took the moral high ground and acted like he deserved it. It didn’t mean he wasn’t aggressive – he was VERY aggressive. But he never said, “come here you two-bit commie, I’ll kick your ass”. He never said “just wait until we get you commies before a firing squad”. That would have been a disaster.
#20 by Gavin on 04/17/2012 - 12:33 pm
Yes. Thank you for this post. I sometimes get so mad at anti-Whites and all they have done that I lose my discipline. That is stupid. The anti-Whites love it when I do that and I feel like an idiot.
The best thing to do is harness my emotions and use them for productive action rather than just venting them in an impotent rage.
#21 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/17/2012 - 4:32 pm
Telling anti-Whites that they’re going to be punished for committing the crime of genocide isn’t ‘threatening’ them. It’s simply stating a fact.
Although when making your point it would be better to imply that they’re going to be punished instead of stating it directly.
Just allude to it in a subtle way and it’ll be fine.
#22 by Jason Here on 04/17/2012 - 8:06 pm
What is to be gained by informing criminal anti-Whites they will be punished? We can imagine that they will be afraid, and we can trill off that. but most likely they won’t be afraid. And in exchange for that personal thrill, don’t we run the risk of stepping on our message to the White public?
#23 by Genseric on 04/17/2012 - 11:50 pm
They just need more CONVINCING…
You guys wanna know how close I would get to THREATENING an anti-White with punishment nowadays? This is as far as I would go:
“You might want to give that White genocide crap up, anti-White.” I’m just saying. It might bite you in the ass and besides it’s the RIGHT THING to do.
anti-racist is a code word for anti-white”
Now back to convincing the audience anti-Whites are wrong and we are right. Shouldn’t be too hard when you hold the moral high ground.
Thanks, Bob!
#24 by Jason Here on 04/18/2012 - 2:42 am
I think all the confusion about how to talk to anti-Whites stems from the failure to remember that we are not trying to convince them of anything. We aren’t trying to “win” an argument with them. We are trying to influence the people watching. That is what I got from one of Bob’s earlier posts. We all start thinking this is the equivalent of a street brawl and so we need to HURT or SCARE the other guy. But that’s not what this is. This is more like theater. It’s a show. It’s propaganda meant to influence the Whites watching. We want the OTHER guys to look scary to Whites, not us. The closer we can get the other side to admitting they want White Genocide, the better. When they admit it, shut up. Let that echo in the minds of Whites.
#25 by RobRoy on 04/18/2012 - 4:10 am
A BUGSER’s role is to point out the ongoing program of White genocide. Nothing more.
#26 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/18/2012 - 10:04 am
What is to be gained by alluding to their punishment is that some of them will actually think about it and then might actually stop being so anti-White. Which would give our people some much needed breathing room.
If you’re telling me that scaring people does no good whatsoever what’s the point of having jail terms for common criminals? Are you telling me that has no effect on people whatsoever? Why don’t you go out and commit a crime then?
What I’m saying is that it could help slow down White genocide right here and right now. Instead of some indeterminate time in the future when we have ‘won’ and the anti-White system has finally been destroyed.
#27 by Jason Here on 04/18/2012 - 2:30 pm
Do you really, honestly think, that some anti-White is going to stop advocating for mass immigration, because you make a scary comment to him in a blog? Isn’t it more that you will just provide evidence to the enemy of how “bloodthirsty” we are. Doesn’t this play right into the enemies hands?
#28 by Gavin on 04/18/2012 - 2:37 pm
The torchlight parade crowd has been screaming about “the day of reckoning” for decades and it hasn’t intimidated the anti-Whites at all.
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2006/11/23/john-ashbrooks-methods/
“Nobody is scared of a screamer. Everybody is scared of a loose cannon who knows the game.”