“I get annoyed when I come here and all I hear is jews this, jews that, bla bla bla, yes the jews may control things, but this stuff is used against even those who support our cause, of which Jared Taylor is certainly one.” – Anonymous User 1 on Storefront
“Maybe he [Jared Taylor] is Jew wise but doesn’t say it, people here don’t realize talking about Jews controlling the world to average sleeping white will turn them off ever coming around to our way of thinking in the first place.” – Anonymous User 2 on Storefront
Many people see this, but none understand why this is, why disaffected whites don’t enjoy empty talk of All-Powerful Jews, why most whites DON’T and never will think “like us”.
Everything you ever need to know about the average white man’s relationship with White Nationalists is summed up right there in that first sentence. The average Joe doesn’t like to think of himself as inferior to ‘The Jews’, or anybody for that matter, so he tunes out as soon as they begin venting about how “Jews run this. Jews control that. Jews did it!”
While some of it is obviously true, none of it motivates people to act, to advocate for their own future, to become pro-White. It will never play in Peoria. It never has.
When a person doesn’t believe in the premise you are asserting is the very reason they should act, you are going to play hell getting them to act in concert with you. Anti-whites know this and they would never dream of stopping any News and Jews pro from doing what they do best, just as they would never aid in advertising a mantra that leads to their demise. Anything nefarious takes place and WNs say, “It’s the Jews”. Anti-whites then say, “You see, another Nazi”. And the masses go right back to bed hoping to awaken far away from this nightmare touted as White Nationalist Race Realism (WNRR).
BUGS is the only pro-white outfit which routinely points this out. Needless to say, almost as if right on cue, Learned Elders and AMPWs always come roaring back in, “You’re ignoring the Truth. You are enabling The Jewish Evil Genius Conspiracy to continue with your denial of the Facts. YOU’RE AS BAD AS A JEW. JEW!”
No, dum dum. You are doing the anti-whites’ work for them. What does that say about you?
If there’s any legitimate criticism to be heard of Mr. Taylor, it’s his inability or unwillingness – I am unsure which one it is – to call the crime committed against our people what it truly is, genocide. Nobody asked us, JT – there was never a vote. So, it can’t be suicide. But again, the N&J crowd says the crux of it is, “Jews are more powerful and ingenious than whites. There is nothing we can do but to wake up whites to this Fact”. Then, in the same breath they turn around and insist Whites are superior in every imaginable way. Could they be any more contradictory?
Whites aren’t “sleeping”, guys. They just won’t listen to some beer swilling, thumb-sucking, couch potato telling them over and over and over about how Helpless they are, Hopeless it is, and Omnipotent and Omniscient the Jews are. This picture is consistently presented to EVERYBODY as a snapshot of The Movement while the most outspoken proponents whinge for their political viagra in the form of a Saviour.
Why would you want and ask for the help of a demographic you implicitly insist is worthless? It makes NO SENSE.
Whites are more likely to listen to a Taylor diatribe about “racial suicide” than they are to those drooling over Supreme Jewish Influence. While the former may be more palatable than the latter for most, both sets of logic are equally flawed. There’s a reason anti-whites will let you get away with making either argument anytime, anywhere.
Both are bullshit.
#1 by Dick_Whitman on 11/02/2012 - 6:38 am
Good article.
The biggest Jewish Supremacists are White Nationalists.
The biggest White Supremacists are non-Whites.
#2 by OldBlighty on 11/02/2012 - 7:18 am
What I think is going on, most Whites think the Jews are a powerless minority, that is being bullied by Hollywood bad guys. And when people start ranting about the Jews, it brings out all their protective instincts.
As April Gaede said at SF a while ago, Whites don’t want to be Darth Vader, they want to be Luke Skywalker. Whites don’t want to be the bad guys, they want to be the good guys.
The truth about Jews may be different, but that is what we have to work with. White people want to be the good guys and bullies can never, ever, be good guys.
It is a very precarious position, when you have no political power and are thought of by the majority, as a Hollywood bad guy.
#3 by Jason on 11/02/2012 - 7:36 am
Maybe the first step is to convince Whites that they ARE victims of genocide, which will eventually open up the door to more insight. Which of course, everyone at BUGS is doing.
#4 by premiseblog on 11/02/2012 - 11:57 am
The second step is to remove the cause of the anguish and self-loathing.
Self-hating Whites think that they deserve to hate themselves because Blacks are so violent and uneducated. The White hyper-control reflex, normally a highly beneficial behavioral mechanism for maintaining civilization, by maintaining high levels of guilt, is turned onto the Whites. Whites WANT to accept responsibility for the condition of Blacks. They don’t want ANY excuses for their failure, such as “genetics” (aka Hitler).
Remember, for the Average White American right now, human genetics= Hitler.
But we still need to say:
“Blacks are behind Whites in wealth and status because their ancestors did not live in civilization. Culture and genetics work together, and take A LONG TIME to change.”
White Americans feel like a woman who birthed a Black son, and are responsible for his behavior being like a Black man.
This is true on a micro level, with actual Mulatto Mothers as well.
America is a guilty Mother of Mulatto.
#5 by Jason on 11/02/2012 - 7:26 am
Great article and good point about the average White man not thinking of himself as some “inferior” led around by the Jews like retarded sheep. You are right, it doesn’t resonate with them. I’ve noticed there is something vaguely Marxist about some of the Jew-obsessed people. They rail against not only Jews, but any group they designate “exploitative”, such as Anglos, or even Overseas Chinese. Frankly, it does come off as loser talk.
At least Jared Taylor doesn’t do that.
#6 by John Locke on 11/02/2012 - 11:38 am
Great article. It is posted on Stormfront http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t922621/
#7 by premiseblog on 11/02/2012 - 12:13 pm
The people on Stormfront act like their ancestors were at a disadvantage to saber-tooth tigers.
They knew that the tigers would bite you, but they did not spend their time chattering and shivering about it in front of their wives in the cave bed.
The wive would not be happy, maybe she should get a stronger, more strategic man.
#8 by Iceknight on 11/02/2012 - 11:57 am
Great article!
You hit the nail on the head Old Blighty. Whites uniquely amongst the races always seek out what the general consensus believes to be the just and moral high ground within an argument and rigidly adopt this position – even if it is detrimental to their own well-being.
Some say it is down to the evolutionary process, where Whites had to survive the harsh winters of the Northern hemisphere, something only achieved by working as a very cohesive social group.
Such thinking is regularly used to push our people into war, with the inevitable mainstream media stories of the enemy being evil baby killers and the only righteous thing to do is go to war and shed blood fighting such barbarians.
Theories of racial suicide and Supreme Jewish Influence fail to capture the moral high ground and trigger off that innate base instinct within Whites to fight against injustice. Only the Mantra does this, that is why it is dangerous.
#9 by premiseblog on 11/02/2012 - 12:03 pm
“When a person doesn’t believe in the premise you are asserting is the very reason they should act, you are going to play hell getting them to act in concert with you.”
THIS NEEDS TO BE EDITED!!!
But is is very true: We need to get people to our belief, by first giving them the more READILY ACCEPTABLE premises.
Attack where the defenses are the weakest FIRST.
Such as:
“You know, I don’t know if it is culture or genetics that causes a group of people to be successful. One thing is for sure though, that coming from a place where your ancestors lived through long, cold winters probably leads you to plan more in advance. I look at the the world, and I see DIVERSITY: I see sun people, and I see ice people, and all sorts of in between”
Breaking down the Equality of Man premise is the first step.
Just say that different human populations are Diverse, and have many diverse, differing skills and talents.
REVERSE THE ORWELLIAN.
Then the walls come tumbling down.
We can deal with these saber-tooth tigers.
#10 by cecilhenry on 11/02/2012 - 12:43 pm
The three stages of a Scientific Theory:
First, it is thought to be preposterous and ridiculous.
Second, it is admitted to be true but insignificant.
Third, it is embraced as true and even revolutionary.
Those who criticized it most now claim they were the ones who discovered it first.
This applies to BUGS as much as any cause ever did.
#11 by timeforfreedom on 11/02/2012 - 1:15 pm
NO no…hold up here. We’re are not going down this ill-fated road of endless discussions of genetics, scientific theory, and race. WE ARE NOT GOING THERE. WE’VE ALREADY BEEN THERE AND THE MANTRA SAVED US FROM THAT SINK HOLE. OUR job is understanding the Mantra AND stating the Mantra–and mini Mantras–all over the place over and over and over again…Like a broken record. We are NOT going to entertain any arguments about genetics and why one group is more effective than another or any of that crap. That’s what Stormfronters do and they have become devastating to our side.
Now Bob’s article here is a good one because it points up one of the problems that I have noticed with our side. We have become way tooooo occupied with trying to convince other WNs that the Mantra is the proper method of discourse with the enemy. Normal White people don’t need to hear that…ALL they need from us is a demonstration of the proper use of the Mantra and its associated arguments…This IS the best argument for the Mantra. Victory in practical street level debates, using the Mantra, IS our argument for the Mantra. That’s why I got so damned mad and flipped out a couple of years ago here when Bob and Horus were trying to get Jamie Kelso to use the Mantra. People like him and Taylor just don’t believe in the Mantra and its a horrid waste of our scarce time and resources to try and get them into our camp, AND, it’s NOT our job. We have to ignore these people and ALWAYS think or them AND treat them in discussion the EXACT SAME WAY that we would use anti-Whites, because for all intents and purposes, that’s what they are for us.
Most White people are intelligent enough to get the utility of the Mantra if they see it in use by a skilled Bugser. They will take up the use of it on their own if they see that it is useful. They don’t need telling them explicitly how the Mantra is the greatest thing since sliced bread…The Mantra does it’s own talking…if you know what I mean.
So, forget the Jared Taylors, the Jamie Kelsos and all of the rest of these Stormfront WNs. We don’t need them or their venues, and we don’t need to waste our time, or lower ourselves courting them either…WE DO NEED OUR OWN VENUE FOR OUR OWN PRACTICAL POLITICAL CONFERENCES THOUGH, that we can go to every year. These would be for us hardcore Mantra pioneers to discuss tactics and victories and that stuff. The conference would get bigger every year I guarantee. I’ve said enough for today. I’m going to kick some butt with the Mantra I’ve made myself to angry.
#12 by c-bear on 11/02/2012 - 9:22 pm
The discussion on “The Jewish Problem” has been going on since there were Jews. It has run it’s course. After all the essays and books written to address this problem (many of which are in my personal library) what have we gained? How has this served us? The truth is, right or wrong, the Jews OWN that discussion. A better question might be: How does this relate to The Mantra? Or how can we turn this discussion around in our favor?
#13 by Conrad on 11/02/2012 - 9:30 pm
I have a few rules that I follow in regards to pro-white organizations that I would like to share.
1. I never intentionally disrespect a fellow pro-white activist in the struggle for our survival, even when I disagree with their methods.
2. I never believe the lies of our enemies, or the state, which are directed against a pro-white person or group.
3. I accept that pro-white forces should use every weapon at our disposal, just like any army going onto a battlefield and I try to use all of these weapons effectively.
4. I never undercut or diminish the work of a fellow fighter, or pro-white group.
5. I share new ideas with pro-white activists, or pro-white groups that may be useful in a polite respectful manner.
6. I network as much as I can with all pro-white activists.
7. I never sew division, gossip or animosity between pro-white activists, or pro-white groups.
8. If I slip and violate one of the above rules, I try to apologize and amend my fault.
www. jackswar. com
Jack’s War
#14 by Jason on 11/02/2012 - 9:44 pm
But in addition, don’t we need a way to distance ourselves from people who are almost certainly informants or FBI agents pretending to be “White Nationalists”? There have been a few WNs who were on the federal payroll.
If someone is acting truly outlandish, I think we have comment on it. Or if someone is inadvertently acting like a Hollywood Nazi. A few weeks ago, someone appeared on Geraldo calling himself a “commander” and wearing some kind of costume, saying he was pro-White. There needs to be a way to point out the harm that does at this time.
I would agree that viciously attacking other pro-White groups is not warranted. I don’t understand what the harm in a reasonable critique is.
#15 by Conrad on 11/02/2012 - 10:21 pm
Yes I agree with many of your observations and appreciate your keen insights, but notice the difference in your questions and my rules.
“Informants or FBI agents” are not pro-white activists and WN’s are never on the federal payroll.
“If someone is acting truly outlandish, I think we have [to] comment on it.” If the individual is sincere, kindly advice, presented in a logical & reasonable manner is most effective. Try using the “sandwich” method if the person is sincere. Say something nice about the work that they are doing – offer your suggestion in a polite manner – and then end by saying something nice again. Those rather strange individuals that appear on the Geraldo Show, are just there for the money, they may even be anti-whites. We’ll never stop them from acting the fool.
“I don’t understand what the harm in a reasonable critique is.”
Please understand that what I wrote was not directed at or to any one individual making comments here. I just noticed that some of the comments were, shall I say, unkind to our comrades in the struggle. They get enough flack from the anti-whites. We need to be a bit more considerate and courteous to our comrades.
In closing let me say, that I truly appreciate the dedication to the struggle & the Mantra that I see here on this site.