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Posted by Bob on January 2nd, 2013 under Coaching Session


Here is the problem I have. It’s hard to think your way out of a mental box when you don’t understand

the box you are in. This response is thinking on paper and very verbose. Feel free to beat me like a rented mule, anyone. Bob’s trying to make an important point that some of us aren’t getting. So, break out the two by four.

We use experts all the time. If I need plumbing work done, I call a plumber. Now, what if the plumber screws up and my kitchen floods? I still call a plumber (maybe another) to fix it. Yes, they have made all the mistakes, and yes, an expert flooded my kitchen, but I still call on an expert to fix it.Photobucket

So, I have a hard time with a blanket denunciation of all experts (maybe that is not what’s being suggested, but it almost sounds like it).

BUT, I most certainly know that some experts are totally wrong in their fields, and that all experts have been wrong at some point. Obviously, I doubt the “experts” on race, the environment, guns and a whole bunch of issues. None of us would be here if we were slaves to experts. Now, is the point that when I realize the experts in question are loopy, I should start treating them differently? No longer treating with the public respect they are used to?

Laughing at them as a strategy?

Because sometimes that does work.

In the case of the USSR, I think most real conservatives realized the system sucked and that it couldn’t stand on its own without Western aid.

But, I think they feared it would survive due to sheer ruthlessness and military power. There is

also a certain pessimistic view of Man that says, in the long run tyranny wins, making people think the USSR would survive BECAUSE of its evil.

There are many examples of experts being wrong. I heard for decades that we are juusssttt about to run out of oil. Except we always have more. And now we have cracking. And no one ever calls those clowns out for what they’ve said. There were the population bomb guys who said we’d all be eating each other by 1999 (soylent green). They also pushed the value of big centrally planned projects for people to live in, here in the US and the world. These places ALL became dangerous, dehumanizing s***holes. I write it off as pro-
government guys spinning a story to justify bigger government. They were Central Planners who came to the conclusion Central Planners should run everything.

Feminists assured me that women (wymen) would all become hairy no-makeup lumberjacks. Yet, they seem
pretty girlie today. More eager to be a princess than an auto mechanic. Freud gave tens of millions of mothers guilt over how their kids turned out, based on a un-scientific theory that was promoted as Deep Thought for generations, destroying God knows how many lives. Freud has faded, it’s considered incorrect, but the whole thing gets swept under the rug. In both cases, it seems like Cultural Marxists trying to impose their vision on the world. Academics don’t humiliate them as they deserve, because they still have too much power.

Regular folks seem to just not think about it. But there is a strange blindness to it all.

I suspect Bob thinks we are more impressed by the arguments of anti-Whites than we should be. And
maybe some of us are. This can be the TOO syndrome of trying to conjure up a Deep System to oppose the
Ultimate Evil we face. Spending years going through every nook and cranny of the anti-White philosophers. Over at Counter Currents, they reprint deep somber texts on Ebola and verge off into some kind of weird mysticism. They take the anti-Whites too seriously.

A lot of thought and mental effort went into this essay and, above all, it was ON SUBJECT.

The floor is open.

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  1. #1 by timeforfreedom on 01/02/2013 - 6:53 am

    Jason you are an extremely intelligent gentleman, and I respect your comments and ideas. Fortunately, I’m not as smart as you so I can’t think up my own essays on pro-White issues, BUT, I do have one essay that has been proven, by my use of it since 2010, capable of destroying every other essay out there:

    Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for Everybody.
    They say the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.
    The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but they don’t say Japan or Taiwan will solve the RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and ” assimilating ” with them.
    They say the final solution to the RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
    What if I said there was a RACE problem, and the solution to this RACE problem was to bring hundreds of millions of non-blacks into EVERY black country and ONLY black countries?
    How long would it take them to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
    And how long would it take black people to notice this, and what sane black man wouldn’t object to this “solution”?
    But when I tell the obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, liberals AND respectable conservatives agree that I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
    They say they are anti-racist, what they are is anti-white.
    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

    • #2 by Jason on 01/02/2013 - 7:49 am

      Thank you, although the truly smart people are the ones who come up with original ideas like Bob did.

  2. #3 by OldBlighty on 01/02/2013 - 7:38 am

    “Regular folks seem to just not think about it. But there is a strange blindness to it all.”

    or

    “Over at Counter Currents, they reprint deep somber texts on Ebola and verge off into some kind of weird mysticism. They take the anti-Whites too seriously.”

    We see an expert, trust he knows what he is doing and stop thinking for ourselves. Or if we oppose the expert, we take everything he says seriously. In both cases, skepticism goes out the window.

    What if instead, we think about what the expert is actually saying? Does it have any basis in reality? What are his intentions? If it turns out to be contradictory, or is against our interests, why not point that out?

    • #4 by Jason on 01/02/2013 - 8:02 am

      That’s a good way to put it. Never stop thinking for ourselves. And when we have evidence the expert is wrong, SAY SO. If a group of experts was wrong on an epic scale (the USSR specialists), never, never let anyone forget it. Analyze their failures.

      They should be held up as examples of how experts can be totally wrong – either through ignorance, arrogance or self-interest.

  3. #5 by Epiphany on 01/02/2013 - 7:41 am

    Both Feminism and the Men’s Rights groups are contrary to the interests of the White Race. The anti–Whites wish for us to be divided along Gender Lines!

  4. #6 by Jason on 01/02/2013 - 10:05 am

    I’ll state the obvious: yes, some thought and mental energy went into what I wrote, but not much came out it. But it shows how much Bob (or any writer) appreciates people responding to what he actually wrote, not using it as a prop to make some other point, or bring up Plato or whatever.

    I see now writing is an interactive process of communication between writer and reader. We need to give Bob feedback about how we feel about what he ACTUALLY wrote.

    The fast interactive part made possible by the internet is great. Never before have writers/thinkers been able to hone their ideas so quickly. If I was writing a book, I would want this feedback as I went along.

    So, I am guessing Bob wants our feedback, as long as we stay on subject, even if what we say isn’t spectacular.

  5. #7 by Simmons on 01/02/2013 - 2:22 pm

    I’m basically telling the intellectuals that their work needs to reduce complexity not add to it.

    Bob spent years perfecting 256 words, last week I received my Occidental Quarterly and nearly 100 pages of Jewser shit that does nothing but add to the failed complexity.

    • #8 by Wm White on 01/02/2013 - 7:28 pm

      So, the Mantra is perfected at 256 words, that’s very interesting and it turns out the number 256 also happens to be one of those magical numbers in the computer graphics universe.

      In computer graphics, 8-bit color (2^8 = 256 colors): color depth or bit depth is the number of bits used to indicate the color or grey scale of a single pixel.

      The typical number of different values in each color channel of a digital color image is (256 values for red, 256 values for green, and 256 values for blue).

      Today, even though resolution has gone through the roof to 32-bit and greater systems it has been noted that “the human eye can’t detect detail or color differences” much past the 256 (color depth per pixel range).

      Therefore, the Mantra fits exactly within the perfect range of understanding. (256 words, epitomizes the Mantra’s ‘Occam’s Razor’ efficiency, so to speak).

  6. #9 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/02/2013 - 6:27 pm

    A plumber can be an expert because he deals with a very narrow range of phenomena in the very simple and orderly universe of inanimate (or at least lifeless) matter.

    No one whose subject is human affairs, with its infinitely varied outcomes, can ever be an “expert” in the sense that a plumber can be. That includes even Bob, whose opinion about matters of concern to us I respect far above the opinion of all others.

    Because of his subject matter, human affairs, even Bob may turn out to be mistaken with a frequency that should be viewed as acceptable in someone working in his area, but would be viewed as evidence of rank incompetency in a plumber.

    Only an expert plumber can predict the future with near certainty! Lol!

    And even then…

  7. #10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/02/2013 - 7:23 pm

    My possibly unclear notion of “Mantra Thinking” is that it’s looking for the operative realities in a situation, instead of chiming in with the rest of the world’s focus on the situation’s nonessentials. Bob’s contrast of Sovietologists’ focus on the weaknesses of Marxist ideology, etc. etc., with his own focus on the silliness of the U.S.S.R.’s system, seems an example.

    I feel like I’ve had a small experience of that sort dealing with our “petition drive” over on SF. For a week or two I bought into the idea of the other posters on SF that the “White House petitions” were about petitions (well, I didn’t exactly, but…I didn’t have clarity)

    Maybe it was Don Black’s describing the petition site several times as a “publicity stunt to make Obama seem a man of the people” that got me thinking, and finally I began posting that the petition site is (for our purposes) “Obama’s BIllboard,” on which we could paste up our terminology and “Stop White Genocide” messages for other Whites to see.

    The informality of the “signing” process and the rest of the operation…I don’t think the Obama folk care a whit about anything that’s on that site, petitions, signatures, whatever.

    We’ll see how the campaign to get signatures based on my present point of view progresses over the coming months. I’m now describing the effort as the Million Man March on Washington, D.C., to Stop White Genocide, scheduled for December, 2016.
    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/2-sign-stop-white-genocide-petitions-on-white-house-site/page/2/

    I’ve had other situations lately where I think I’m seeing through some things with a rapidity I never enjoyed before. I feel like it’s Bob’s influence, though I can’t see exactly how it happened.

    All this is assuming of course that my thinking is not in fact off track.

    Bob, I feel a long ways yet from being able to give an example of a situation whose realities become clearer to me by “listening to the silence.” (You had wished someone would do that). It’s a new idea to me. But I can sure see the usefulness of it…hopefully it won’t be long before it’s a working tool in our kit!

    • #11 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/02/2013 - 7:26 pm

      D@mn it! That’s supposed to be “Million NAME March!!

      • #12 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/02/2013 - 7:28 pm

        Sigh….okay, I haven’t been swarming, so I don’t feel entitled to ask, but I will anyway…isn’t there some way to have this website fixed???

        • #13 by Daniel Genseric on 01/02/2013 - 10:59 pm

          Why do you keep insisting “the website is Broken”?

          Have you considered the possibility that Bob may have removed the editor?

          If so, have you thought about why they might do that?

          • #14 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/03/2013 - 12:37 am

            C’mon, Genseric, give it up! Are you showing all this crap all over your pages, or is it just my computer?

            Warning: Missing argument 2 for wpdb::prepare(), called in /home/whita07/public_html/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-ajax-edit-comments/lib/class.core.php on line 470 and defined in /home/whita07/public_html/blog/wp-includes/wp-db.php on line 990

            I have a question for you to think about, Genseric: why do you for a good time now look for every stupid opportunity to poke at me?

            You get tiresome as hell sometimes. Do all the things you do so well and quit being such a jerk.

            And consider this: I’m tired now, so I’m irritated enough to have just set you up to go bonkers and make a total fool of yourself (just as I’ve sometimes made of myself).

            So go for it if you must.

            • #15 by OldBlighty on 01/03/2013 - 1:27 am

              HD,
              Just log out after you have made your comment and it goes away.

              There is no point complaining about something that everyone already knows about. Obviously it will be fixed when resources are available.

              • #16 by Jason on 01/03/2013 - 1:48 am

                Hey thanks for that tip though, I didn’t know logging out made it go away (while logged out)

              • #17 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/03/2013 - 3:01 am

                I believe you’re right, OB. Thanks for the tap on the shoulder.

  8. #18 by Jason on 01/03/2013 - 8:44 am

    Experts NEED the opponent they study to be taken very serious and to ENDURE. They get paid to discuss this Big Unsolvable Problem. The last thing they want is for it to disappear.

    This motivation may often be unconsciou, but it is there. The Sovietologist doesn’t really want the USSR to disappear – how will he earn a living and be considered important?

    The same may be true with some “White Nationalists” who take the anti-White systems VERY seriously. They offer up “deep analysis” that requires extended reading of Nietzsche or Schopenhauer or some other continental bore to fathom. They imagine another 50 to 100 years of struggle and ponderous musings. The idea that you can blast the anti-White system out of the water with disdain and mockery is an offense to their own egos.

    This is an obvious point that I should have made yesterday, and which others probably already have, but I didn’t think of it,

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