Some threads have people making outraged attacks on pro-whites who are talking about white genocide instead of whatever the subject of the thread is.
This might be a good place for a one-sentence comment that we go everywhere because our discussions are BANNED everywhere.
We are reacting the way any free person reacts to Thought Policing.
Remind anti-whites that they you don’t have to justify genocide unless you are committing it. Do not tailgate!!!
Has anyone else noticed that the Mantra sentence about how no sane black man would fail to see the same policy applied to black countries, All black countries and ONLY black countries, as genocide?
Attack, attack, attack!
#1 by Jason on 01/15/2013 - 8:09 am
Excellent … I admire the way it puts responsibility back on the anti-Whites and the PC crowd and exposes them for what they are.
#2 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/15/2013 - 11:44 am
“I guess if I were promoting an active campaign of genocide, then I would look to try and justify it the way you and all tyrants do.”
“Isn’t it peculiar how genocide is a crime until it happens to whites?”
“If America is so free, then why won’t anti-whites let us live and work together?”
“If England is so Tolerant, then why doesn’t it tolerate neighboring white countries?”
“If Diversity is the goal, how come diversity is only ‘achieved’ once there are no more whites left?”
#3 by Mediakrig on 01/15/2013 - 12:39 pm
I am guilty here, as I usually point out the genocide i Tibet, as my non-white genocide, because this is real, is happening at the moment, and is described as a genocide by both anti-whites and a number of good people that don’t need much explaining, to understand that the non-white immigration to all white countries, is a genocide as well.
I mostly post in Scandinavian media, and the intelligent part of the public seem to be aware of the Tibetan genocide here, so I thought it was a good strategy to point out the double standard.
Is this wrong?
If it is not wrong, Tibetan genocide sites and youtube films, might be a good hunting ground for posting the mantra, as the readers already understands the concept of a slow genocide, and only need to apply it to their own race.
That they care about the Tibetan genocide, shows they are both idealists and anti-communist, people that we should have on our team.
#4 by dungeoneer on 01/15/2013 - 1:40 pm
Every second of every day anti-whites are rubbing “Multiculturalism” aka white genocide into our white faces.
#5 by Jmcaul on 01/15/2013 - 4:14 pm
And we will rub the mantra back in theirs. Oh, this is just TOO MUCH FUN sometimes!
#6 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/15/2013 - 6:44 pm
Oh, you mean Eurocide.
I thought you were talking about killing all things white, like snakes polar bears albino alligators and doves or maybe even whites killing another race (i.e. the Jooooooos). I understand what you are saying now.
#7 by OldBlighty on 01/15/2013 - 7:59 pm
No such word as Eurocide in the dictionary and it is not a term with legal precedent. You are talking GIBBERISH yet again.
Anti-White, you do not get to tell Pro Whites, what we should call ourselves.
We are White. What you anti-Whites are doing to White people is GENOCIDE. It is White GENOCIDE.
I know it BUGS you that Whites might use a word you think you have ownership of. Well, tough luck anti-White. We are the largest victims of GENOCIDE today.
Care to deny White GENOCIDE again?
#8 by OldBlighty on 01/15/2013 - 9:02 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions
“By ‘genocide’ we mean the destruction of an ethnic group . . . . Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups . . ..”
– Raphael Lemkin
Massive non-White immigration AND forced integration is Demanded of ALL White countries and ONLY White countries.
Even a Black man would understand it as GENOCIDE, if this policy targeted Blacks instead of Whites.
So whats your excuse Cheshire? Do you have brain damage or something?
#9 by dungeoneer on 01/16/2013 - 2:17 am
The strength of BUGS and the Mantra method.
Our troll attack surface consists of refusing to use or relacing the words found in the mantra which we guard like the crown jewels.
As opposed to the labyrinth of pro-white verbiage elsewhere that trolls can rollick about in.
#10 by Jmcaul on 01/15/2013 - 4:19 pm
Bob, I did not understand this sentence: “Has anyone else noticed that the Mantra sentence about how no sane black man would fail to see the same policy applied to black countries, All black countries and ONLY black countries, as genocide?” did you leave out a word or two?
I just a moment ago had a real flash (and not just a hot one;) the mantra is TRUE GENIUS in that it is an INDICTMENT. It is an ACCUSATION. The anti-Whites are BEING CHARGED WITH GENOCIDE (and they know it even if many sleeping Whites don’t yet.) When we post the mantra or mini-mantras, we are throwing down the gauntlet. By posting the mantra and engaging anti-Whites we ARE conducting genocide tribunals in the here and now. Was it crafted as such? Perhaps this has been discussed before here.
#11 by Jmcaul on 01/15/2013 - 7:12 pm
Cheshire Cat, are you saying that ‘the White race’ is just a social construct? You are saying White people do not exist?
#12 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 11:44 am
Are YOU saying that’s what I said?
Of course whites exist, silly J-Mac. Are you saying that Europeans and Europeans in America do not? Should I adopt a broader term for myself when I have no Russian blood? Why confuse the audience with vagueness?
Do you agree that European Americans exist?
Do you agree that some EA’s have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?
So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?
You guys aren’t thinking big enough….yet. But, I still love ya!
#13 by BoardAd on 01/16/2013 - 12:22 pm
Do you consider it acceptable for Russia and Russians to be flooded with non-white immigration and assimilated with? And the rest of the Slavs?
The problem with European is much like American in practice today. Anyone can be called that with the right set of papers.
#14 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 12:56 pm
Everybody knows what the term European refers to. It is less ambiguous and tiresome than entering into the same old “who was in America first” bullshit. You know that.
Did massive non-white immigration and forced-assimilation spring up in Mother Russia overnight?
Did we not petition the Russian Federation for its help?
Did we not warn them that anti-whites have them in their sights?
Then, as a EUROPEAN AMERICAN, what further obligation do I have to the Russians?
Don’t even get me started in Russia’s role in the current state of affairs in Europa and their meddling here. However, I am willing to put that water under the bridge, even if they ignore our plea for help. But don’t expect me to continue to identify with them despite that.
#15 by BoardAd on 01/16/2013 - 1:13 pm
You did not answer my question so I am going to ask it again.
Do you consider it acceptable for Russia and Russians to be flooded with non-white immigration and assimilated with? And the rest of the Slavs?
#16 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 2:01 pm
That question doesn’t even warrant an answer. In fact, it is insulting you even asked it, let alone asking it twice.
Did massive non-white immigration and forced-assimilation spring up in Mother Russia overnight?
Did we not petition the Russian Federation for its help?
Did we not warn them that anti-whites have them in their sights?
So, why should I concern myself with a hypothetical genocide in Russia when Europeans ARE CURRENTLY BEING VICTIMIZED? You’re right, I should because I care, and I do. Besides, when is genocide ever “acceptable?”
Now it’s your turn:
Exactly how much more culpability must I assume in something that hasn’t even happened yet for you to feel comfy?
Will you please tell me the reason BUGSters should be more concerned with Russia’s fate than with our European people’s?
Do you agree that European Americans exist?
Do you agree that some EA’s have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?
So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?
How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?
http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm
#17 by BoardAd on 01/16/2013 - 3:03 pm
The reason I am bringing up and asking you about Russia, is that you have said a very odd thing on BUGS which is in contention with our established history.
White is an inclusive racial term and every last american knows what it means even if they play dumb. The Mantra isn’t about a specific subset of whites, it is about preserving the set. It is a deceleration that every white nation, no matter the location, has a right to exist now and in the future.
We are not purely reactionary with the Mantra. If a country is not subject to immigration and assimilation, the goal is to keep it that way.
#18 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 3:37 pm
Don’t just say it’s (all) odd, explain what is odd. I said nothing false. I’d be leery of Established History, if I were you. Didn’t think you could answer any of my questions anyhow.
White is a term you have been branded with. They say that is all you are. It is used by anti-whites to divorce you from your ancestry, culture and history. Wouldn’t you agree there is more to it than just our skin color? Are you Russian? If not, then “white” doesn’t tell your entire story, only part of it. Are you trying to limit, or put constraints on, the discussion?
As Bob says, “Don’t just define it, go to open systems.” Why are we working towards limiting our people’s ability to accurately articulate what is happening to them? How come Eurocide is identifiable and correctly pronounced by iOS and Siri, but not by certain BUGSters? Is Siri and her programmers anti-white?
Please explain how what I outline is reactionary.
And this is the third time I have asked:
Do you agree that European Americans exist?
Do you agree that some EA’s have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?
So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?
How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?
#19 by Jmcaul on 01/17/2013 - 8:18 pm
Why did you say ‘you aren’t thinking big enough yet’ right after making it clear you don’t consider Russians to be White and therefore they shouldn’t be included in our goals here? That right there seems to show you are the one ‘not thinking big enough.
In addition, it would seem that your stubbornly pushing Eurocide shows a desire to exclude Russians from the category of White. This does us NO good. I would say it is YOU who seems rather rather silly to me.
Of course what do *I* know??? I’m only interested in saving my race, the White race, not demanding that MY approach be embraced by a bunch of people who are already using a successful approach.
Why dont you come back and show us how its done once YOU can demonstrate a track record of success with YOUR approach? I think most of the people here are fairly open minded but we DO want to see something that WORKS. I think it’s fair to say that’s why we are using the current. PROVEN verbiage.
#20 by Dick_Whitman on 01/15/2013 - 8:11 pm
If diversity was really a source of “strength,” it wouldn’t have to be forced on people.
#21 by OldBlighty on 01/15/2013 - 8:34 pm
“Remind anti-whites that they you don’t have to justify genocide unless you are committing it.”
This is good.
#22 by A Smiling Weirwood on 01/16/2013 - 3:32 am
Forgive me for interrupting. I’m a n00b, and it probably isn’t my place. But you all do know who “Cheshire Cat” is, right? And God knows I’m not trying to call him out or piss him off if that was some secret, but I thought it was obvious, as I saw the name change in the New Mantra Video thread (which has apparently reverted for the nonce).
Maybe my judgment is just ****ed, but if “Cheshire Cat” is an “anti-White” or a “troll”, then I’ll take two billion anti-White trolls just like him and enlist him on this site tomorrow.
That doesn’t mean you have to AGREE with him, and I’m not taking sides in the White Genocide/Eurocide thing… but I just think it is spectacularly unhelpful to start calling trusted Bugsters “trolls”. Hell, if Horus drops a “Eurocide” in one of his podcasts, would he be a troll too?
Like I said, I’m a n00b. I love the PASSION and debate over words. I’m not saying you all have to exchange addresses and fingerprints, LOL, but at some point, you would think some of you all would start trusting one another to a certain extent.
I just think it unseemly that Cheshire is being implied to be an anti-White troll. I don’t see how this devouring of our own does any good whatsoever. And we worry about “recruiting”.
#23 by dungeoneer on 01/16/2013 - 11:03 am
I thought Cheshire Cat was somebody else, but his insistence on Eurocide after being challenged on it`s damage to mantra consistency is very suspicious and
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/01/14/todays-english-is-tomorrows-latin/#comments
“Don’t you see how this “white” label serves to divorce us from our ancestors, culture and heritage?”
Is a ridiculous statement that I wager no mantra thinker would entertain even for a second, it`s the kind of thing an anti-white says
“Oh, you mean Eurocide.
I thought you were talking about killing all things white, like snakes polar bears albino alligators and doves or maybe even whites killing another race (i.e. the Jooooooos). I understand what you are saying now.”
More absurdity about whiteness and Invoking TheSixMillion totally out of context?
Hurt feelings take a back seat in keeping our mantra message intact.
“Hell, if Horus drops a “Eurocide” in one of his podcasts, would he be a troll too?”
I`ve ,listened to all his broadcasts and I can`t remember a single time Horus has used eurocide instead of genocide, which tells me something important.
#24 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 11:21 am
My feelings aren’t hurt and who I am matters not. It’s all about the content. “Absurdity” seems to be a label you throw around for questions you have no answers to. Might want to work on that.
I simply gave you anti-white or fence-rider comments that I have seen. It’s spelled Audience.
Your looking to and taking cues from Horus on everything tells me something too.
#25 by dungeoneer on 01/16/2013 - 11:25 am
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/?s=eurocide
#26 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 12:03 pm
“Does not compute” or “error: term not found” is not an excuse.
Why are you so adamant about limiting the number of words we have to describe the genocidal programs being waged against our people?
Is what I am doing open systems thinking? What about what you’re engaged in?
OST is not some show where tickets are Sold Out. You can actually participate too.
#27 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 10:50 am
Since YOU have labeled me an anti-white, I want YOU to show me where it says quote white genocide unquote in the Mantra. Go on. Paste it in here for me.
What part of Bob starting the conversation about making things SHORTER are we not comprehending? Did you forget that? Dave was the first one to bring this up. Is he now anti-white? And I’m brain damaged? Well, you might be onto something. But, what does that say about those who can’t grasp this simple concept of TRYING it out. After all, that’s just what I did here and you can’t even see that..haha
It’s easy to see that Europeans are white and cide means killing. Therefore, Eurocide is obviously the killing of Europeans. At least somebody got that part of it, even if they didn’t say so. What crime is being committed when an entire race is targeted? Is Russia being targeted for massive immigration and forced-assimilation? If not, then what’s the reason for your aversion to the term “European”? Did the term Holocaust always refer to Jews? Do you intend to fight them for it? Is White Genocide really the best you can do? Perhaps.
One of my specialties is getting the conversation rolling while others try to shut it down. The other is asking questions that harbor no concern for your level of comfort or status. In the future, you will have to deal with sophisticated subversion. Something to think about.
I am WHITE and I call myself a European American because I am not Russian. I am also pro-white. Deal with it.
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/12/21/our-changing-relationship-as-you-learn-by-doing/
#28 by dungeoneer on 01/16/2013 - 11:11 am
I`ve made all of my points, I`m not wasting more time on this.
A real BUGSer would do anything to prevent time being wasted on discussing non-mantra talking points.
#29 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 11:23 am
“A real BUGSer would do anything to prevent time being wasted on discussing non-mantra talking points.”
Yet, you run away while I implore you to consider another layer OF the Mantra. How ironic.
#30 by OldBlighty on 01/16/2013 - 6:46 pm
Cheshire,
You answer all questions with questions. No one with experience, would take anything you say seriously.
As for your Eurocide crap, you are trying to push the anti-White preferred definition of GENOCIDE requiring it to be mass murder, because that would cover up what you anti-Whites have been doing to White people globally.
No anti-White. No where in the UN GENOCIDE Law is murder specified. Game Over.
It’s White GENOCIDE.
#31 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 9:27 pm
You are missing my point. And why do you keep calling me anti-white? You think you have a handle on who I am and what I believe? You claim to understand my intentions. Yet, clearly you do not. Does it make you uncomfortable to have your methodology challenged? Does it make you angry to have your terminology examined? Then start by being PISSED at Dave. When you’re done being angry with Dave, you can finish by being pissed at BOB.
So, you are saying that nobody with experience would listen to someone with experience. Makes perfect sense to me Old Boy.
When is the last time you tried something without having to hear it from someone with “elevated status”? When?
Did I get you talking about Eurocide? Let’s count how many times I got each of you to repeat it, shall we. I hope you don’t need my help for that, but I’m beginning to have my doubts.
Again, for YOUR reference, not mine: http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/12/21/our-changing-relationship-as-you-learn-by-doing/
#32 by Cleric Preston on 01/16/2013 - 5:37 pm
Ditto what BoardAd and Dungeoneer wrote !
Cheshire Cat posted “It’s easy to see that Europeans are white and cide means killing. Therefore, Eurocide is obviously the killing of Europeans”
——–
“Genocide involves the attempt to achieve the disappearance of a group by whatever means. It does not have to be violent, it could be a combination of policies that would lead to a certain group dying out.”
Malcolm Fraser (Prime Minister of Australia 1975-1983)
GENOCIDE is broader then simply killing people.
It includes
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
—————
We could be sterilised, have our children given to 3rd Worlders, be called the r-word for objecting and be forced to live apart from other White people and be randomly beaten for being White yet none of that would be ‘Eurocide’ as we aren’t actually being murdered.
It would however be GENOCIDE under International Law.
I understand you are having some ‘success’ with ‘Eurocide’, you can have even more ‘success’ if you drop ‘Eurocide’ just like you dropped GENOCIDE and concentrate on ‘demographic change’ ‘displacement’ or ‘equal rights for Whites’.
You might even get a book deal out of it and make some money….
#33 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 9:32 pm
If my EXPLORING a term makes you uneasy, perhaps you should head for calmer waters. Sheesh.
Besides, I only know of one BUGSter trying to make money off of Bob’s work. And it ain’t me. Oh, remember that word, “Ain’t”? I do. I can even remember when it was a big deal as to whether or not it would be included in Websters. So what. Right? duhhhhhhhh…..
#34 by OldBlighty on 01/16/2013 - 6:27 pm
“European American” is anti-White terminology.
There is only American and they are White. Whites are the founders of the United States. Non-Whites like yourself, tack their country of origin onto American, because they know they are not real Americans.
The preamble to the Constitution clearly states America is for Whites only.
Sorry anti-White. We do not use your terminology.
#35 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 9:36 pm
“European American” is anti-White terminology.”
That’s just your OPINION. Try and explain your point of view to an anti-white who asks you, “What’s American anyway?” Try doing away with Native American, African American, etc etc…
Good luck. Time to start dealing with reality. Bet you can’t and won’t touch these questions:
Do you agree that European Americans exist?
Do you deny Europeans settled America?
Do you agree that some EA’s have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?
So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?
How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?
#36 by Peter Cottontail on 01/16/2013 - 9:51 pm
I’m with OB on this one. I am no more a European-American than an African in China is Chinese. There is a reason why we left Europe even when Europe was 100% White and it has nothing to do with our friends in Europe.
And “Euroside” is plain silly.
#37 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 10:03 pm
Okay.
So, “White” completely describes you, your ancestry and your history?
Sounds pretty bland to me.
Another person who CAN’T answer:
Do you agree that European Americans exist?
Do you deny Europeans settled America?
Do you agree that some EA’s have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?
So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?
How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?
#38 by OldBlighty on 01/16/2013 - 10:55 pm
Anti-White says:
“So, “White” completely describes you, your ancestry and your history?”
Anti-White,
YOU and your anti-White buddies have defined whom is “White”, by whom you are trying to GENOCIDE, by demanding massive immigration and FORCED integration, for ALL of their countries and ONLY their countries.
Russia, ALL of Europe, Ireland, Iceland, Canada, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.. etc…
You target ONLY those places where these “White” people, whom you also say DON’T EXIST, happen to be standing. lol
There is nothing dumber, than a dumb man who thinks he is smart!
#39 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/17/2013 - 10:32 am
There is nothing funnier than an old man who fancies himself useful. Hahaha! And I’m anti-white because I endanger your delicate sensibilities? BwahahahHA!
If you weren’t completely and utterly worthless, we wouldn’t be staring down the barrel of white genocide, would we? Yeah. That’s what I thought, “genius”. I take that back. Maybe you can tell us how you fucked up America for the last 6 or 7 decades? Probably not.
Now get out of the way while we clean up the shitty mess your generation left us. Oh, and you’re a European American whether you like it or not. “David Duke The Anti-White” says so too. LOL!
#40 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/17/2013 - 2:28 pm
“Anti-White,
YOU and your anti-White buddies have defined whom is “White”, by whom you are trying to GENOCIDE, by demanding massive immigration and FORCED integration, for ALL of their countries and ONLY their countries.
Russia, ALL of Europe, Ireland, Iceland, Canada, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.. etc…
You target ONLY those places where these “White” people, whom you also say DON’T EXIST, happen to be standing. lol”
In the midst of all the crazed horse-poop, I find a lovely pony. I’m not surprised.
Genseric, I don’t know what’s happening to you, but it’s sad and disturbing to witness. I hope you will come to the end of it and rejoin us. You and I have had our problems, and I admit to having a slight hair up my butt about you now that sometimes gives an edge to things I say to you, but my deeper fondness for you that was formed about the time of the first seminar has always remained strong, as well as my respect for you as a an exceptional bugster. For the sake of our joint enterprise here, let whatever’s gotten inside you flow out and come to an end.
We’re just humans here involved in a human undertaking, and each of us has to realize that sometimes it’s ourself who is right and the others wrong, and sometimes it’s the other way around, and who can tell which is the case when they’re in the full fire of their feelings. Ease up.
God knows what I’ll find when I get up to today’s blog.
No, I don’t personally care for OB’s and dungeoneer’s way of dealing with you, but just as I value your strengths, I value theirs, and among theirs is the fact that they ALWAYS hold the line, and hold it strong. A trait that this group will ALWAYS be much in need of, by the very nature of our task.
#41 by OldBlighty on 01/16/2013 - 11:09 pm
“Do you agree that European Americans exist?”
The question has already been answered.
Again for our mentally challenged, anti-White:
The only Americans are White people. It says that quite clearly, in the Preamble to the Constitution.
“to Ourselves and our Posterity”
Written and ratified by what anti-Whites like to call “racist old white guys”. They call them “racist old white guys”, because they understand what they meant by that line.
There is no hyphenation when it comes to Whites, in the countries their ancestors built.
#42 by OldBlighty on 01/16/2013 - 11:19 pm
Next you will be saying there is such a thing as a European “hyphen” British, or a European “hyphen” Southerner.
This is idiotic.
Only non-Whites flooding into White countries, call themselves such things.
You consistently use anti-White terminology.
#43 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/17/2013 - 10:45 am
It’s only idiotic because you thought it up. LuLz!
I have the sneaking suspicion that you haven’t managed a unique and intelligent thought all on your own in your ENTIRE LIFE. And that’s a LONG time.
Only idiot savants, non-whites and anti-whites are that incapable of mustering original thought. Which are you?
Next thing, YOU will be saying that David Duke is anti-white because he uses European American. My god, you ARE brilliant. Does Using Eurocide to describe anti-white murder and terrorism really bother you? Does that make YOU anti-white? Have you even bothered to try it? Something to think about.
#44 by BoardAd on 01/17/2013 - 11:21 am
Why do you want us to adopt David’s terminology?
#45 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/17/2013 - 2:51 pm
Are you going to join the “European Americans are a social construct” crowd? Are you intimating that David is not pro-white?
It’s a white term. Everything will be a-okay.
#46 by BoardAd on 01/17/2013 - 4:14 pm
No, I think European-American is Duke’s term. It’s pro-white, but it is the respectable flavor. No American refers to himself as such outside of Duke’s people and that is essentially useless when trying to reach the common man.
By the time anyone uses European-American they are already on board. What you are forgetting is that a group will adopt a term of derision as its name, but they will just look at you confused if you try to rename them.
#47 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/17/2013 - 7:02 pm
Tell that to Gretchen Carlson who made the mistake of using the term on Fox and Friend in November. She did that….ONCE. You’re forgetting that there is nothing respectable about pointing to white anything as a positive.
I’m afraid you have it backwards. Lots of people don’t like to think of themselves as white. I know this because they HATE having one box to check on job applications, college forms, and medical forms while everyone else has all kinds of options. Can’t count how many times I’ve heard them bitch about it. You know how else I know it is a fact?
People understand that anti-racist is a code word for anti-white. And it makes them less than comfy. They want options, not to be herded and railroaded into one box huge boxcar.
#48 by A Smiling Weirwood on 01/16/2013 - 12:30 pm
I have not posted on one of Bob’s articles since my first “activity” on this site; that was when I posted on Bob’s response to the SF Conf., wherein Duke stated why he didn’t use the Mantra. So bear with me. I know I’m too ****ing wordy. I try to be as concise as I can.
Dungeoneer and Old Blighty: I was not trying to “side” with Cheshire Cat, due to some cult of personality, and get on your bad side. Nor am I trying to “back away” from Cheshire now. My point purely concerned the periodic “Troll Hunt” flare ups.
My main concern in all this is THE READER. I read BUGS for about nine months before EVER creating an account. I had the idea for the STOP White GeNOcide video and had all of the girls filmed except one before EVER creating an account.
Do you not think that there are some potential, future BUGSters who are, right now, reading the threads, blog, comments, etc., just like I was?
And I might be wrong, but I think it is TERRIBLY unhelpful, when the ANONYMOUS potential future BUGster, who might be a future Horus, johnnywhiterabbit, etc., is reading BUGS and people who are obviously committed to the cause being called out as Trolls.
Now, dungeoneer and Old Blighty, I am not singling you out. This is something I noticed way back during the Coniglio Blanco “affair”. Shortly after that, there were two separate people who made public posts insinuating that Dick Whitman was a troll, and one referenced his username, which I thought most people KNEW was a reference to Mad Men, assumed identities, or even the archetypal White man that ANTI-WHITES were trying to “d*ck”. They said that HE picked it because it meant “d*ck the White man”.
In the past two months, I have seen other people go on three or four day “hunts” calling out Jason and Peter Cottontail over comments they made that, IMO, had NOTHING to do with being anti-White. I thought the “Hunters” totally took them out of context.
So, if I am ANONYMOUS READER:
Dick Whitman = Troll
Peter Cottontail = Troll
Jason = Troll
CHESHIRE CAT, one of the most PRODUCTIVE, concise Bugsters I’ve ever seen = Troll
Well, why the @$#% would I EVER want to join BUGS??? Were I them, I would think, “Gods forbid I say something off hand, or mention that I have a non-White friend, or TRY using Eurocide to see if it WORKS…”, and get called out publically, by the VERY PEOPLE who I view as THE BEST SHOT FOR OUR RACE, as some anti-White troll?
Why not just try to make BUGS as unattractive as possible? I mean, MCisAntiWhite introduced himself in the New to BUGS thread, and ONLY Gar5 welcomed him. I was going to, and thought, “Everyone thinks I’m too f*cking wordy anyway, so I better not”. I don’t even know if I ever saw “verycoolwhite” introduce himself. As far as I know, he just showed up in the Swarm one day and started being productive. But I also don’t think that anyone has ever welcomed him (I could be wrong, and he could be an old member, or I may have missed the welcome). But how often do you think that “ideal case” will happen?
I KNOW that BUGsters are the 300. I have Bobs “Bugs is not for everybody” article BOOKMARKED. That being said… it also STILL happens that, periodically, EVERYONE wonders why MORE PEOPLE aren’t getting on message, posting, and reporting?
Well, you know, I know some of you are nasty basterd, lone wolf, TOR using Matrix decoding Totenkopf Alpha Males… but there are a helluva lot of people that aren’t, that could STILL follow the rules and be ON MESSAGE. Would you RATHER everyone be LONE WOLF Bad@$$ people who instantly get on board, STFU, and SWARM? Sure.
But isn’t BUGS dealing with what IS, and seeing what IS, and not what “should be”? If there are people who need a little fellowship and kindness (AND THINK A LOT OF WOMEN, HERE…), but could stay on message and be producitve… do you want them? If there are people who really DON’T want to come to what they perceive as THE BEST SHOT FOR WHITES and be called a troll or an anti-White if they try “Eurocide” or something like that… do you want them? Do you want “wordy” people like HD & ME, who nevertheless are PRODUCTIVE to various degrees?
Because right now, it seems as if BUGS is ONLY geared towards the superbadasstorusingf*ckyouifyoucan’ttaketheheatgetoutofthekitchen types. Which is fine, if that’s how people want it…
I’ve often thought that the difference between a SF’er and a Bugster could be summed up in a line from “White Men Can’t Jump” (oh gods, I’m a troll for seeing that movie in my past), that I heard on basketball courts ALL MY LIFE from White guys, because they know it’s TRUE:
“A black guy would rather look good, and LOSE. A White guy would rather look bad, and WIN.”
“Likewise, a SF’er would rather look like a superintelligentTotenkopfbadass and LOSE, and a Buster would rather do what WORKS and WIN”, in terms of being “hard@ss”/writing book-length tomes vs. pushing a “boring” Consistent Message.
Likewise, BUGS has a similar choice, at times, to me, to face… that is, Be a LoneWolfTORUsingCALLOUTTHETROLLSateverychance,don’twelcomenewpeople board, or actually getting a lot of White and Normal people on board and posting.
Anyway, I’m done. I’ve just watched Dick Whitman, Peter Cottontail, Jason, and now Cheshire Cat, of all people, being called out or implied to be “anti-White trolls” since ConiglioGate.
And I don’t think it’s AT ALL helpful, ESPECIALLY to potential Bugstes who aren’t LeonidasCharlesMartelFeanorContraMundum types.
But, I could very well be wrong. I won’t post on these articles again. Back to my video. 🙂
#49 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/17/2013 - 3:06 pm
Weirwood, I know you can be concise, because your marvelous video doesn’t have a superfluous word in it! Lol! So when you write a comment as important as this one…well, at least put the main points in bold or something.
Unless I missed something, I agree with all you’ve said. In earlier months I spent some effort trying to get Bugs to be warmer and fuzzier, but I’ve finally learned that we got here who we got here, starting with lovable ole’ Bob! (who I think we all do love in some way). Warmer and fuzzier will have to wait until warmer and fuzzier arrive, who can tolerate and also appreciate the value of those here who aren’t warm and fuzzy. I hope to God that you are among that number! You can’t change people very much…I guess I need another year of beating my head against the SF wall to finally get that, but I am slowly learning it.
When people do things that seem counter-productive, then depending on the degree to which others here have or haven’t formed a feeling for who those people are, there are going to be suspicions. That’s the nature of our work and it’s inescapable. Peter, Jason, Genseric…the idea that they could be anything but deeply sincere pro-whites is ludicrous to me, because I believe I have a very clear picture of who they are. Jason and Genseric have been pretty much open books from the git-go, and Peter I’ve worked with.
Dick Whitman I didn’t know at all, and so when I saw he was swarming (I was swarming then, and will again) mostly pages that were outdated it seemed, I wondered. I told myself what I’ve learned to be true, that weirdnesses like that almost always have their explanation in the limitless expanse of personal quirkdom, but still I wondered. Now I’ve seen a lot more of Dick and I no longer wonder.
Work with who we are here, and let’s move forward!! Like Genseric when he gets through whatever he’s going through (or probably at the very same time!), you’re a mighty weapon, Weirwood, and like Beefcake you arrive among us fully formed, a marvel! Lol!
#50 by Jmcaul on 01/16/2013 - 4:01 pm
Cheshire, I think you need to put your ego in some time out.
1) The mantra and the term ‘white genocide’ WORK
2) there IS NO International law that specifies “Eurocide” as a crime. There IS international law specifying Genocide as a crime.
3) When we say ‘white genocide’ I think even the lowest IQ reader who is not a certifiable idiot understands we are not talking about white out or chalk. The word genocide makes that clear. Anyone who is still too unintelligent to make that distinction is of no use in this fight anyways. Stop trying to win that audience.
4) In the CONTEXT that we use white genocide, every one in the audience UNDERSTANDS we are speaking of the genocide OF Whites, NOT any mythological genocide being perpetrated BY Whites.
5) Eurocide would not necessarily be restricted only to White people in this day and age. There are plenty of non-White Europeans now. Did you not get the memo?
6) attempting to dismiss the considerable talents and experience of both Bob and Horus is just feeble. Where is YOUR track record? When you show the ability to put a group of people on a consistent message that has the kind of impact that the mantra and white genocide do, come back and share your experience. Perhaps people will listen then. BUGS is not the place for paycheck pro-Whites or for anyone trying to ‘make a name’ for themselves. We are here to end White Genocide period.
#51 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 9:38 pm
“We are here to end White Genocide period.”
Are you implying I am NOT? You think I am getting PAID to point out the obvious to you? hahahaha
#52 by The Cheshire Cat on 01/16/2013 - 9:09 pm
When free thinking wasn’t so Free.
#53 by Sentinel on 01/16/2013 - 9:57 pm
I think I’ll go and post the Mantra…
#54 by tyrfing on 01/17/2013 - 2:49 am
Do you agree that European Americans exist?
Maybe they do, but I’m not one and I’ll never be one.
Americans are white people. Non-white U.S. citizens are HONORARY Americans, and they ALL know it. Every last one.
The term “European American” makes as much sense as “European French” or “European Czech”.
If French men started calling themselves “European French”, then France no longer exists, and is no longer of the French.
On that ground, I might stop calling myself an American. It might no longer have any meaning — and then “European American” has even less.
And when Mommy Professor preaches our genocide, or when the street thug kills one of us, neither of them calls us “European”.
#55 by Jason on 01/17/2013 - 4:38 am
That’s an impressive amount of logic expressed concisely and effectively. Are you related to Bob?
#56 by Killer Bee on 01/17/2013 - 10:12 am
“If French men started calling themselves “European French”, then France no longer exists, and is no longer of the French.
On that ground, I might stop calling myself an American. It might no longer have any meaning — and then “European American” has even less.”
That would never happen because it is ludicrous. This is such a weak argument I can’t believe I am responding to it. Even children understand where all the colonists came from, EUROPE. So now you only use pre-approved labels given to you by Mommy Professor? Huh? Well, you’re definitely no BUGSter then. Have you ever heard of David Duke? He USES European American. I guess he’s anti-white too? LoL!
Wake up and smell the coffee.. Yours is hardly an argument Bob would make. Because it just plain sucks. Get a clue, freak.
#57 by OldBlighty on 01/17/2013 - 4:33 am
“If French men started calling themselves “European French”, then France no longer exists, and is no longer of the French.”
Yes! This hyphenation nonsense, is yet another symptom of White Genocide.
#58 by Killer Bee on 01/17/2013 - 10:04 am
What an ignorant comment. You mean like anti-white or anti-racist? Did you just call Bob nonsensical?