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Mantra Thinking on Paycheck Conservatism

Posted by Bob on April 8th, 2013 under Coaching Session


Bill Rusher gave me a free lifetime subscription to National Review in 1975, so I have been kept up to date with respectable conservatism since I got out of the business.

Paycheck conservatives have evolved perfectly to suit the media establishment. Anyone who says anything that truly hurts our rulers, as all the conspiracy theories say, like Joe Sobran or Pat Buchanan, is frozen out.
But it is not a “conspiracy.”

I was hardly part of any circle, left or right, but as a matter of getting my pay I knew in detail when each formerly conservative position became taboo.

The reality is understandable if you Mantrify it. That is, you cease to scream and make it a matter of information nobody else is privy to, and look at the obvious facts nobody looks at. photo natrev_zpsda440202.jpg

The obvious fact is that paycheck conservatism says that everything is a mess today but every liberal policy before January 1, 1971 was not only OK, but denounces anybody today who thinks like the founders of National Review in 1955 more loudly than anyone else today.

Paycheck conservatives tell about any objections to integration more loudly than anyone, just to prove they are part of the Modern World. That is their job.

To Mantrify the situation, paycheck conservatives ratify each policy they once denounced. When National Review signs on, everybody agrees that “both sides” have agreed and all opposition is extremist.

The system under which we live is a very sophisticated one, and it adapts. At the beginning of the 1960s there was not one national television debate that had a conservative in it. By 1980 those who made their livings as professional conservatives were either outstanding, like Pat Buchanan who had the top political column in America, or they had learned to fit into the system.

Those were the staffers who took “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” out of Reagan’s speech THREE TIMES behind his back.

The mantrification of paycheck conservatism is what they say, “We are in a national catastrophe today, but every single step that led to it was wonderful.”

And no one but me will ever boil that down to its absurd reality.

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  1. #1 by Jason on 04/08/2013 - 6:20 am

    “The mantrification of paycheck conservatism is what they say, “We are in a national catastrophe today, but every single step that led to it was wonderful.””

    Great summation! TV conservatives can’t name any program they would alter from the New Deal, the Great Society, affirmative action and quota laws, forced busing, diversity training – they embrace it all.

    To make money, they have to appeal to an audience that wants opposition to liberalism without actually providing any.

    • #2 by Daniel Genseric on 04/08/2013 - 8:27 am

      And everything they champion as “Anti-racist policy” has helped create this beautiful disaster. The best part is we get to pay for it and enjoy none of the spoils.

      Western Civilization is burning. Great work, gents!

  2. #3 by dungeoneer on 04/08/2013 - 6:33 am

    “We are in a national catastrophe today, but every single step that led to it was wonderful.”

    And the beauty of it is the paychecks have no option but to agree with that summary.

  3. #4 by jo3w on 04/08/2013 - 7:05 am

    Follow the money. How many more BUGSters would there be is there was a revenue stream to capture from our activities? This article is quite depressing early on Monday morning. The silver lining is that BUGSters, by changing popular opinion, will create a revenue stream that leads people to favor our views.

    • #5 by Jason on 04/08/2013 - 8:18 am

      Don’t be depressed! The upside is that we have true believers and fanatics right now (in the good sense).

      We are using Bob. I say that openly. We are using someone whose expertise we couldn’t afford.

      And I also get the benefit of learning from the other BUGS members whose devotion is rock solid. I get it for free and I appreciate it.

      Now, I would love to get paid for what we are doing, and if we ever get the chance to get political jobs in the future, we should SEIZE them and help each other.

      MSNBC and FOX know their game is just about up. Everyone in the country has a sense that we are waiting for some big change to come, but most people don’t know what it is. They just know the shelf life of what liberals and Respectable Conservatives are feeding us has expired. It is stale.

      All Sean Hannity can offer are “shocking” stories of Obama spending too much on vacations.

      Everyone is in a holding pattern and deep down most people know it. Waiting for whatever is Next.

  4. #6 by Simmons on 04/08/2013 - 7:59 am

    Maybe someone from Bob’s era, age and perspective can take all this old crap seriously as he had to to make a living. But these days even Buchanan sounds like an old fool, imagine an old man with a pony tail driving a sports car, resplendent in gold chains and trying to pick up chickies in South Beach? I write that because his paen to Nixon’s 100th birthday included Nixon’s “success” at intergrating our school system (genocide).

    Bob is Dave the astronaut from “2001 Space Odessy”, literally the only survivor to make the next political/social leap in evolution of we white men. So kids when your aged and your attending the great torchlight parade when other white politicians are congratulating one another for always being white men who saved the great white race you actually knew the one man who did.

    • #7 by Jason on 04/08/2013 - 8:23 am

      Well put, but I hope you don’t mean it will be 40 years from now when Great Change (Torchlight) happens. I am hoping things start getting interesting starting in 2017.

      • #8 by Cleric Preston on 04/08/2013 - 8:56 pm

        Jason, If you haven’t watched the documentary ‘The Singing Revolution’ I recomend you to do so. Actually it should be compulsory viewing for all Bugsers.

        Things could happen a lot quicker then a lot of us think. But the right situation must be in place.

        Once the ‘event horizon’ is crossed it could all happen so quick it will make your head spin.

        Some of us are already planning the after-party 😉

  5. #9 by Daniel Genseric on 04/08/2013 - 8:31 am

    “So kids when your aged and your attending the great torchlight parade when other white politicians are congratulating one another for always being white men who saved the great white race you actually knew the one man who did.” – Simmons

    This is the main reason I keep coming back to read Bob’s writing. He might move slow now, but his thinking is still done at the speed of light.

  6. #10 by Daniel Genseric on 04/08/2013 - 8:37 am

    • #11 by Jason on 04/08/2013 - 9:28 am

      Very interesting. I don’t like it. Notice they still don’t GET what the Mantra is about. They don’t understand that we need to push for a public discussion of White Genocide.

      Once we have an open and free discussion of White Genocide, what we do depends on many factors: how soon it happens, how many people join us, etc. Besides, it is illegal to talk about such policies in most White nations, which is what the real Mantra sidesteps.

      They seem eager to latch onto whatever Covington came up with as a way to put the real Mantra on the back burner. Counter-Currents, like pretty much all the pro-Whites sites, runs lame stories on Hitler in between fund raising campaigns.

      Like children, they always want to skip past the WORK part and get to the fun part of planning a Neato Cool Aryan society, I guess that is better for Membership groups like Counter-Currents and Northwest Front.

      My gut reaction is that I resent the hell out of it.

      • #12 by Simmons on 04/08/2013 - 3:16 pm

        Like I wrote a few days ago we can ask any of these membership orgs what have they done to liberate whites from the evils of PC censorship.

        Good luck to Harold, I am not going to start or even fuel one of those STUPID intercine battles. I just move on, find what works and move on it.

        • #13 by dungeoneer on 04/11/2013 - 2:35 am

          And fairplay to Harold Covington for publishing this comment on his Thoughtcrime blog:

          http://downwithjugears.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/the-northwest-mantra.html

          Dear HAC and NWF,

          I know you wont change your minds, but this new mantra business has cropped up on Stormfront and counter currents so I should say my piece here as well as the other places.

          You say the original mantra does`nt offer a solution to white geNOcide, but I ask you, were the captive soviet citizenry of the USSR freed from their commie tyranny by ignoring the fact they had no free speech to criticize and bring down the regime, and instead moving out into the forests and steppes like ww2 partisan armies?

          Or was their > one < priority which successfully gained them their freedom a demand for open discussion of their grievances?

    • #14 by Sentinel on 04/08/2013 - 1:01 pm

      That approach does nothing to correct terminology or to interrogate the guilty, as where THE Mantra is a complete sphere.

      This seems to be the result of having our effectiveness and presence noticed by “mainstream” pro-Whites as they try to create a consistent message melded with crime statistics.

      The words are true, but the serious underlying mechanics are not there, in my opinion.

      • #15 by Gar5 on 04/08/2013 - 7:16 pm

        Bob, I’ve been thinking about the sophistication of the system today as well.

        All this laughable propaganda seems so huge and grandiose because there are lots of things happening at once.

        It would be like taking apart a watch and showing it to a caveman. To us it’s just some cogs that turn around – to them it’s magic.

        Liberals still remain the same as they were years ago, however paycheck Conservatives have evolved to fit the shape of a specific cog in this present day system in order to make it tick.

        I see more everyday that the system is just a bunch of “cogs”, aka people required by the system to sustain the system. It seems so obvious when I say it out loud, but if you want to become rich, supply the thing the system needs the most – legitimacy from THE “opposing view”.

        THE “opposing view” is always the opposite of HERESY!

        • #16 by Sentinel on 04/09/2013 - 11:31 am

          The Paychecks are the Chosen Opponents.

          Gather ’round for the puppet show — this evening, a tragedy for your unenjoyment. Please deposit at the ticket booth your heredity for admission. Refunds not given without a struggle.

    • #17 by Simmons on 04/08/2013 - 3:13 pm

      I think its fine. True the author at CC does not understand the Mantra deployment but then again he is an essayist disasatisfied with paycheck conservatism so the Mantra is new to him.

      I always though our deployment was meant to have the anti-whites expose themselves for the evil frauds they are, and IMO that has been our best success. And IMO its the reason that AmRen could even take seriously a real WN beyond critiquing paycheck conservatism with crime and IQ stats.

      • #18 by FirstTube11100 on 04/08/2013 - 7:15 pm

        Obviously, the Mantra is much (MUCH) less provocative when the pro-White solves his own problem in front of the anti-White. Don’t handicap yourself like that…

        • #19 by Daniel Genseric on 04/08/2013 - 11:26 pm

          Good work. You’re showing improvement.

          Almost all the way home now. “Don’t handicap US like that.”

          You give anyone two parts of a three-part equation and they automatically think they can do simple algebra. Some will believe they actually invented it. Remember Al Gore?

          Let them take the credit for making the “bit leap”, as Bob likes to put it, and you will gain ground like you wouldn’t believe.

          What’s important is they are using it.

          • #20 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 12:09 am

            But my question is this: are they using the Mantra? The tone of the article seemed dismissive of the Mantra. The usual “it’s not enough” stuff that WNs will say.

            If NWF people want to actually post THE Mantra, that is fine, glad to have them (if they post it correctly). If somebody wants to mangle it and mix with something they are trying to sell, that’s not good for Whites.

            My feeling is that nice little old ladies in Suburbia will be down with the Mantra before those Grizzled WN’s who do the Strutting Rooster routine. I don’t think they will get it in their lifetimes.

            To be blunt, most current WNs are the last people I’d be concerned with getting. Virtually nothing they’ve done is impressive. Yeah I said it.

            • #21 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 1:28 am

              You are pissed, aren’t you!

              Me too, man. I saw that thread and thought, man, these fools are at it again. And again, and again. I’m sick of them all.

              Worse of all, I don’t understand.

            • #22 by Daniel Genseric on 04/09/2013 - 7:24 am

              I was talking in generalities.

              Harold and Gregory have proven to me that they have a very loose understanding of what we are accomplishing and how we do it.

              Fisttube said “don’t solve the problem for them.” I agree. That must come later. And everyone already knows what the answer is.

          • #23 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 12:28 am

            I really resent that article. It’s got that same Establishment tone of every RINO who ever sold his people out. That “you fellas did a good job with that little phrase of yours, now the Big Boys will take it from here”.

            That is EXACTLY what we need to watch out for in the future. The same people who accomplished ZERO will come in and claim to have the solution for the problem we have raised. They will come along when it is time to take power. F that.

            Just like the Respectable Conservatives claim to have a solution for the issues real people raise, and then sell them out.

          • #24 by FirstTube11100 on 04/09/2013 - 2:48 am

            No… I wrote what I meant. Go patronize someone else.

            • #25 by Daniel Genseric on 04/09/2013 - 7:26 am

              Never let “I” get in the way of “we”.

              Hang in there. You’ll get it.

              • #26 by Daniel Genseric on 04/09/2013 - 7:35 am

                In case you didn’t get it. This is a TEAM. So what YOU do affects US, not just “yourself”.

                Wide sky, as in worldwide.

                • #27 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 7:44 am

                  I can’t even figure out what ya’ll debate is about! Just remember both of you guys are making huge contributions to the pro-White side. Team White, as it were.

  7. #28 by shari on 04/08/2013 - 11:25 am

    It’s so common to see people use intelligence and ability to puff and promote themselves, even when they claim to be “serving others.” Bob’s heart matches his mind. There are other bugsers who show this quality too.

    • #29 by Gar5 on 04/08/2013 - 7:19 pm

      Fighting for their people’s survival mustn’t be enough for the dream warriors.

      They want their cake and to eat it too.

  8. #30 by Sentinel on 04/08/2013 - 1:12 pm

    Bob wrote:

    “The obvious fact is that paycheck conservatism says that everything is a mess today but every liberal policy before January 1, 1971 was not only OK, but denounces anybody today who thinks like the founders of National Review in 1955 more loudly than anyone else today.”

    Bob, you have alluded to Jan. 1971 several times. What is the significance? Cigarette ads were banned from television and the last of them ran on 1-1-71; Nixon was in office. I get the point that paycheck conservatives’ advertised principles decay hilariously over time, but I’d like to know what you’re really trying to tell us about that date. What changed?

  9. #31 by richard on 04/08/2013 - 1:45 pm

    With the death of Margaret Thatcher, I’d like to offer an observation about her that relates to Bob’s writings.

    One thing Bob always says is how we should never take the anti-whites seriously, but always point out how SILLY they are.

    British conservatives took socialism seriously for decades and Britain kept drifting further and further left. Thatcher ridiculed socialism. People started laughing at leftists. She destroyed them so completely that the Labour Party had to rebrand as ‘new labour’ and Tony Blair had to publicly accept that Thatcher was right before he could be elected.

    They’ve never forgiven her for it.

  10. #32 by blackbyte on 04/08/2013 - 4:19 pm

    You’re taking it wrong, Jason.

    He doesn’t share our goal, he has one of his own – a White homeland. He’s trying to learn mantra thinking and apply it towards his own goal.

    Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. We should wish him luck.

  11. #33 by AtlosTeutā on 04/08/2013 - 8:18 pm

    ~QUESTION!~

    All of my comments on ‘Where did you post the mantra today’ threads are ‘awaiting moderation’, is there some special permission for those threads or akin?

    Getting a bit annoying not being able to post good targets for swarming. :/

    • #34 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/08/2013 - 9:47 pm

      It’s not personal. Our website has never upgraded from being a Model A to being a Model T.

    • #35 by Jason on 04/08/2013 - 10:03 pm

      And please keep posting while any bugs are worked out! Every BUGSTER posting links is valuable.

      • #36 by AtlosTeutā on 04/09/2013 - 12:01 pm

        I do every so often, would be hell of a lot more fun and effective with some cavalry at my back though.

        Hopefully my comments and links can be posted/shown soon enough..

  12. #37 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 1:23 am

    Bob’s blog: It seems like a key to controlling an open society like ours is the establishment of taboo. I hate taboo, and the feeling that’s attached to it. But I guess what will eventually have to be done…what we are trying to do already…is to attach that same nasty feeling to “anti-white” and make it taboo. And White Genocide too of course.

    When pro-Whites rule again, I wonder what the line of the “respectable dissenters” will be allowed to be.

    Good material there for a futurist novel today maybe.

  13. #38 by Bob on 04/09/2013 - 2:02 am

    The Covington man tried for a long time here to get us to adopt his program. Now they are trying fora direct steal.
    I find that sickening. Especially since these are the same folks who rejected the Mantra for all those years.
    Leave the Mantra alone and sell your stuff on the street, not on us.

    • #39 by FirstTube11100 on 04/09/2013 - 3:15 am

      His use of the Mantra is severely truncated, Mr. Whitaker. It seems like – “cute”. And, I really don’t see his group even holding a candle to B. U. G. S. because of the massive amounts of activity the B. U. G. S.ers do (ie. constant swarms, video production, even radio).

      There isn’t much about which to worry, and it’s going to be business as normal, I predict, sir.

    • #40 by dungeoneer on 04/09/2013 - 5:22 am

      So we`re not selling the mantra as open system political warfare Coach?

      • #41 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 6:14 am

        We need a concept of ‘open system’ that doesn’t include just anything that someone cooks up. Open systems cannot be synonymous with zero standards.

        In this case, he isn’t even a prodigal son who admits he was wrong. He hasn’t seen the light of the Mantra, rather, he has simply SEEN the Mantra (a lot) and sees opportunitie$. That might not be so bad, but the proposal he has is to replace the Mantra with some new line. So he wants to cash in on the Mantra while destroying it. He is obviously trying to ride the train he had been previously spitting on.

        And speaking of train wrecks, as the Mantra gets more popular, people with something to sell or perhaps offering “leadership” will come around more often. People trying to co-opt the Mantra should be immediately suspect.

        • #42 by dungeoneer on 04/09/2013 - 6:42 am

          Yes, I went back and read the original before seeing your post and see I misunderstood the article.

          No need for another mini essay.

          • #43 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 6:48 am

            Hehe, sorry for the wordiness, I was writing out my thoughts and got carried away.

        • #44 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 7:05 am

          HAC’s slogan reads to me as an appeal to pro-whites, and specifically, as an appeal for them to move to the NW.

          In both his and Hood’s article, there’s no discussion of why the slogan will be effective on the white masses, except for HAC saying it’s brief. (Not as brief though as, “Have a nice day.”)

          Bob doesn’t go into detail either (at least in the time I’ve been here) on why the Mantra works…we’re left to figure that out or not figure it out on our own, as far as I can see.

          But HAC and Hood, however bright they may be, think and write in a more conventional style than Bob. If they aren’t writing about something, then they aren’t thinking about it, neither analytically nor instinctually.

          Not only do most pro-whites prominent or otherwise seem to have little sense of what will be effective messaging to the masses, they only barely even see that as a question, if at all.

          Since they’re pretty good at explaining things to their friends, why should they doubt they can be equally effective with the masses?

          My two cents. Thanks, btw, Jason for what you write on this site…like tonight, you often make things clearer for me.

      • #45 by dungeoneer on 04/09/2013 - 6:22 am

        Sorry Coach, my reading failed me, I see they`re not advocating using “Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white”, just using the success of the mantra to push a non-effective thing.

    • #46 by dungeoneer on 04/09/2013 - 9:35 pm

      http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t959383-3/#post11117324

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Revilo
      Furthermore, while Whitaker’s Mantra points out a problem with the existing system, it does not point to a solution.

      Rrabbits:

      “Incorrect.

      The mantra is a DEMAND for open public discussion about the ongoing global white genocide program which is currently censored and AVOIDED via a CAREFULLY maintained SILENCE.

      What better solution to white genocide can there be than an open public discussion in which the anti-whites get shown up for the genocidal criminals they are?”

      • #47 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 9:46 pm

        Very well put. A public discussion of White Genocide IS the solution.

  14. #48 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 7:15 am

    Oops. I didn’t mean to seem to be countering Dungeoneer’s statement. I’ve just been really helped tonight by what seems to have been your working out of your own reaction to HAC’S slogan.

    As Bob says, “sickening.”

  15. #49 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 10:50 am

    Most anti-Mantra Pro-Whites are too Goddamn stupid to ever be useful. Just got back from looking at SF thread on it. Idiot stuff.

    Things like “the Mantra ain’t got no solution in it”, oblivious to the fact that that is part of its genius.

    CC and TOO are for intellectual masturbation (of a poor sort). CC especially offers pseudo-intellectualism. I am not just bitching here, but saying we have to find new pastures for recruits.

    I don’t know where new BUGS people will come from, but it will seldom be from those places. Maybe all the people to be “got” from those places have already been gotten.

    Horus appears to be the greatest recruiter BUGS ever had. That’s a clue for the future.

    • #50 by Frank on 04/09/2013 - 2:58 pm

      Jason, as I recall, you were recruited from TOO, and rescued from your N&J addiction in the comments there by those of us there who pointed you at the real action.

      While you may forget your own origins, many of us keep an eye peeled for “new” Jasons, in all the places you now look down on.

      We don’t discount them in advance, because we didn’t discount you.

      • #51 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 3:21 pm

        I agree, but it is so HARD. Last night I sent PM’s to the 40 SF’ers who have PM’d me at one time or another, and two answered my call to go to WGP and “sign up” as Stalwarts, and several others wrote me long treatises (hey, will Pavlov’s dogs salivate when the bell is wrung?) on why the White Genocide message won’t work! Like Jason says, “Goddamn”!

        Yesterday I took a very long time crafting a post about the petitions for Majority Rights. Majority Rights did not put it up. I have no f*cking idea why! I am sick to death of the whole f*cking lot of them!

        I will continue to make efforts on white sites, but how much easier and GETTING MORE RESPONSE might it be if we give some thought to how we can put invitations in our Mantra comments in the mainstream, without lessening the impact of the comment.

        When I get back to posting on youtube, I’m going to put a dashed line at the bottom of many of my comments and write below it,

        White GeNOcide Project–Stalwarts

        I think I can do that on many of my comments elsewhere in the mainstream also.

        Thanks for the opportunity to bitch and moan…I needed it! 🙂

        • #52 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 4:04 pm

          I’m embarrassed by how bent I get by a little bit of adversity! But there it is.

        • #53 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 7:29 pm

          The AMPWs can be unbelievably dense. I hadn’t been to SF in couple of months. I logged on and had an email from early February telling me the White House petition would never work. He said it only made sense if we had MILLIONS to sign it.

          I tried to respond to tell him the story had been featured on MSNBC, but his account was already closed! That is the SF mentality. Either immediate results or they have no interest.

          Meanwhile, TOO and CC are still trying to impress Mommy Professor on some level.

          So, I won’t dissuade anyone from reaching out to other pro-White groups and I hope it works. But at some point, I am not sure it is a good idea to have such dense people on your team anyway.

          • #54 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 9:24 pm

            This reminds me of what I’ve been forgetting: When I post at SF, I’m posting mainly for the much greater number of unregistered readers there than members.

            But: all the work I’ve done on SF the last few months is worth it for one guy, Irish Kraut, who got turned on by seeing some of the positive comments at Sourcefed’s article on the petitions. Those were comments about the ladies’ video mostly, I think…anyway, Irish Kraut is now wreaking havoc in the mainstream using little more than the word anti-white, and his buoyant good cheer is a joy and a wonderful support. If you could see some of the stuff he reported back, you might say like me, don’t try to make this guy a bugster, just let him do what it occurs to him to do. His instincts are great!

            ————–

            Are there any other bugsters here who would like to make my day by officially becoming a “Stalwart”? I’ve put in red the essential sentence:
            http://whitegenocideproject.com/hey-buddy-can-you-spare-5-minutes-at-the-beginning-of-each-month-to-help-stop-white-genocide/

      • #55 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 7:15 pm

        I didn’t forget my origins, and if you wrote that story over there about BUGS, thanks. The difference between me and most others there was I was ready to be plucked.

        I had to talk about what they were willing to talk about (at least, so I thought). They accused me of being every thing from a Jew to a troll to a gov’t agent. I had to engage them on the level they were capable of, which was N&J. There were a few people who led campaigns to have me and others banned from the site. So, I had to walk a thin line. If I said something like “look why are we more worried about Israel than the plight of Whites”, they would go ballistic and claim I was a Hasberra agent.

        Then, when you wrote your article and I heard Horus and found BUGS, I knew all that was over.

        I believe HD had some similar problems.

        It would be nice if they let you run another story though.

    • #56 by Gar5 on 04/09/2013 - 3:30 pm

      Jason, it’s easy to look down on news and jews pro-Whites, but I hope we all remember when we were them.

      I can only explain it as a sort of tunnel vision.

      As for the recruitment discussion, we had one a while back and concluded that new people are not persuaded to join (recruited), they are attracted to the idea of Bugs.

      As our message spreads the majority of pro-Whites will start to use it because they will SEE it working.

      Dream warriors will still be drooling over this or that dream a decade from now.

      • #57 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 7:34 pm

        Let me thank you again Gar5 for that app and webpage you created that lets us pick Minis and Replies fast. It has at least doubled my productivity. For anyone not using it:

        http://mantra.awardspace.us/

    • #58 by Asgardian117 on 04/09/2013 - 6:19 pm

      Yes Horus is a AMAZING recuriter, he breaks things down in a laymans fashion where ANYONE can understand it. He doesnt come off as aggressive he actually seems kinda laid back and thats a big draw for whites. But most of all after listening to all his podcasts i emailed him telling him how i felt, and he actually took the time to email me back i stand here today among you gentleman thanks to horus he is the great communicator.

  16. #59 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/09/2013 - 3:09 pm

    “I don’t know where new BUGS people will come from, but it will seldom be from those places.”

    My thoughts lately are similar.

    Starting in May, the “signature” on about half of the petitions will be,

    White GeNOcide Project–Stalwarts

    Googling that (I need to disconnect these petitions from SF much more than I have, so SF doesn’t come up when readers of the petitions google their signatures or google “White Genocide.” That’s been a rather severe mistake on my part) will carry a reader to a group at White GeNOcide Project that I’m forming that will get the petitions up on the first day of each month.

    If you can get a person to DO something, any little thing, you’ve got them well on the way to being involved. That’s a fact!

    • #60 by Asgardian117 on 04/09/2013 - 11:03 pm

      I get this feeling that these people at sf and other similar wn sites just wanna deal steel…these are the people that will rise if we do not succeed…that in itself is a frightening thought, i mean i see people on their sometimes calling for all out war..i understand their frustrations i really do, but dont they see that their is another way? Sometimes they sound like a segment from faux news…

      • #61 by Jason on 04/09/2013 - 11:16 pm

        I wouldn’t worry much. I think Bob addressed those types a while back. They like to talk tough and never do anything.

        There were tough guys who were promising a Mad Max Hellscape, and they have been in their graves for 20 years now. They never got around to it.

        SF has a lot venting. And fantasy stuff. Dream Warriors as Bob calls them. They’ll never do anything, except give the rest of us a bad reputation.

      • #62 by Daniel Genseric on 04/10/2013 - 8:07 am

        What else can we expect from reactionaries? To initiate violence is a sure sign that one side believes they have lost something BIG.

        One of our charges is explaining that all is not lost. The scary part is we’re right. There is an actual reason to hang on and fight.

        But, that’s not how you make moves.

  17. #63 by Bob on 04/10/2013 - 5:57 am

    HD talks about the pain of refusal by pro-whites to sign the White House Petition, despite its proved traction in the media:
    “Thanks for the opportunity to bitch and moan…I needed it!”
    This is the only place where we understand all too well what is driving HD up the wall.
    We’ve all been up that wall many, many times, so we’re the ones to bitch to.

    • #64 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/10/2013 - 7:10 am

      Here’s extracts from two comments that Fred Richthofen posted on the “sign up as a Stalwart” thread at White GeNOcide Project today and yesterday…I hope he won’t mind:

      I have overheard people talking about the petition in public, so this will be my priority.

      The individual had seen it on a news page and said that it was probably posted by some kind of crazy nut.

      It took me by surprise as well. To say that these petitions are a big deal might be an understatement.

      This turned up to full bright a bulb that had been glowing dimly in my head: there is no way on this green earth that month-after-month petitions about White Genocide (of all things!) on display at the White House (of all places!) can fail to become at least a minor item of national interest! No way!

      But what will move the topic out of the entertainment section and into the news-and-national-concern category is thousands of signatures.

      I have hopes that the Stalwart group will eventually grow beyond just getting the petitions up on the first day they’re submitted, and may eventually number in the thousands and be able to load thousands of signatures onto the petitions that very first day!

      We’ll troll for Stalwarts among the petitions’ readership by having this designed-for-googling phrase at the bottom of some of the petitions,

      White GeNOcide Project–Stalwarts

      In this wild and crazy country with today’s wild and crazy technology, anything is possible!

      It seems to me! Lol!

      • #65 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/10/2013 - 8:41 am

        The petitions might stand a better chance of running for four years if they do NOT get more signatures.

        But that way of thinking doesn’t seem to me like the way to play the game…it doesn’t feel right.

        But my mind is open, I hope. If Bob were to tell me that that’s the way to go, it would be a huge and painful adjustment in my approach, but I expect I could do it.

  18. #66 by Conrad on 04/10/2013 - 1:10 pm

    I am seeing a lot of frustration, even anger, expressed in the comments here. Most of it seems to center around the angst cause by conflict with other pro-white groups and their lack of acceptance of the Mantra.

    I know from experience that no matter what you are trying to convince a person of, i.e. religion, politics or anything else, one must accept the person at the starting point that you are presented with. In other words, if they are interested in the Confederacy or WW2 Revisionism, accept that and start there. Once you have won their friendship & confidence you can lead them to a new idea, i.e. the Mantra.

    Many of our efforts have failed because we think that there is ONLY one way to reach & convert people to our side. The Mantra is a tool, a new and effective tool, but not the only tool that you need to use in your work. Yes I know that your focus and specialty is the Mantra & that’s good. If your efforts start to feel like you are trying to pound a screw into a board with a hammer then you’ll know that you are doing it wrong. Get out the correct size screwdriver, the proper tool needed, and try again.

    Work with each person or group of people patiently and move them from one point to another. Once they see, with their own eyes, how effective the Mantra is they will use it. Don’t beat them over the head with it, you’ll just drive them away.
    ……
    Jack’s War
    https://www.createspace.com/3820778/

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