It has occurred to me that the one fundamental difference between membership organizations and BUGS is that they have to be devoted to tactics, whereas we concentrate on strategy. That makes us pretty uppity towards the flakey masses in membership organizations.
To a certain extent, we earn our uppity attitude. We get no reward for this, so we should be proud of what we do.
On the other hand we must understand why membership organizations HAVE to cater to flakes. If Dave or Don don’t keep them entertained, other outfits will be glad to take them off their hands, with their checks.
This leads to some differences that are so extreme they are almost comical. The membership outfit is not going to do something miraculous like being pro-white and having a hundred and fifty thousand people sign up for it as Stormfront has done unless it does a terrific job of holding in everybody from religious lunatics to libertarians.
We, on the other hand, demand to get rid of anyone who can take offence at something else and take his toys and go home (TTGH). I offer you over fifty years of organizing experience, and this kind of person has destroyed hundreds of otherwise healthy groups.
We chop the TTGH off the way a old combat surgeon would go after a limb with gangrene in it.
TTGH IS gangrene.
In the Darwinian world of membership organizations, you can’t do that.
In the membership groups, the Leader must keep up his image. I don’t.
I wrote an article saying that you never use “You are justifying genocide.” That was my frustration from one debate. David or Don or Paul Fromm cannot afford overstatements. I truly do not give a damn what it makes me look like if I fix “You are justifying genocide” in your mind.
The point is not Bob, the point is to add “You are justifying genocide” to the regular, endlessly repeated list of things that are clearly driving anti-whites up the wall.
#1 by dungeoneer on 04/19/2013 - 8:58 am
One debate without
“You are JUSTIFYING GENOCIDE”
is too many.
Thanks for the lesson in “getting it done” non-membership org management.
#2 by Epiphany on 04/19/2013 - 10:27 am
There shall be no Browning of the Races. Miscegenation is sick!
#3 by Sentinel on 04/19/2013 - 11:14 am
Africa will still be African, Asia will still be Asian; Saudi Arabia will still be Arab. There is ONLY a browning of ONE race going on. It’s being done to our race — the White Race — and it is genocide.
Anti-Whites love to say that “The Races” are mixing, but they’re only justifying WHITE genocide.
In everything that anti-Whites say about our people, whether in statement or response, they justify our genocide.
#4 by Dave on 04/19/2013 - 10:29 am
BUGS is a seminar. Seminars are very powerful things. Seminars are relentlessly challenging. Seminars operate like that old aphorism: “A fool who persists in his folly becomes wise”. A seminar is all about showing up regardless of the credit attached to showing up. Seminars are driven from the energy of the participants themselves. From within. They demand sustained hard effort, but there is nobody there to do any demanding. It all comes from within.
In contrast, membership organizations are retail. They are driven by the energy from without. No different from Mommy Professor’s university.
Seminars aren’t like that at all. They have no such concerns. They are very serious things – for serious students only. Seminars can transform the world. They can be very powerful things.
#5 by WhiteActivist_123 on 04/19/2013 - 4:41 pm
“We get no reward for this, so we should be proud of what we do.”
No reward? Our reward is saving the White race, I will not stop until this genocide stops.
#6 by Bob on 04/19/2013 - 5:30 pm
I noticed that one of the “Stop White Rabbit” types, when the “Justifying genocide” article was reproduced on their site, asked why BUGSERS would let me talk to you that way
I am not being nice to you.
If I were nice to you, you would probably check my pulse.
War is not based on nice.
I sincerely hope you will get a chance to demonstrate that fact to the race traitors.
#7 by Jason on 04/20/2013 - 8:20 am
Well Bob won’t let us buy him off with membership dues, so we have to take the abuse.
What are you gonna do?
#8 by dungeoneer on 04/20/2013 - 12:11 pm
Coach is keeping the team sharp, it may not be done nicely, but it`s still a great kindness.
We are RELYING on each other to do the same.
#9 by Asgardian117 on 04/20/2013 - 12:09 pm
Crying! Are you crying?! Theres no crying while fighting against our own genocide! Dont worry Bob we GET IT…we understand why You give us a swift one on occasion…thats what coaches do. Thats what these anti whites DO they put a nice gloss of shine and ribbons on a box full of feces, they have been doing it for decades.
#10 by c-bear on 04/19/2013 - 10:51 pm
Our focus is on different kind of politics than the enemy is used to. They would rather deal with the nice-nice tactical politics where everyone is just trying to keep the peace. Revolutionary politics aren’t bound by their comfortable liberal vs. conservative / democrat vs. republican outlines. These things aren’t going to matter in the long run. The only thing that matters to me is a future for white children.
#11 by Conrad on 04/20/2013 - 11:43 am
That’s a good goal. But I must now ask the question. What is the point of having a future for white children IF they are just going to remain the same as the whites of previous generations? Here’s a hint – they must be more like Libby Springfield. Have you been paying attention? Who and what is Libby Springfield?!
Just so you’ll all know, I use the “you are justifying white genocide” a lot. I also like to reduce the enemy’s charges to a personal opinion. The racist / Nazi / hater charge is a socially charged and powerful weapon that the enemies of mankind created for the purpose of furthering their evil goals. I reduce it to a PERSONAL opinion by using the phrase – “in your opinion I’m a …
Personal opinions are everywhere, NO ONE is afraid of them.
C. C. Conrad
#12 by dungeoneer on 04/20/2013 - 12:00 pm
“The racist / Nazi / hater charge is a socially charged and powerful weapon ”
They are Hate words used to commit genocide against whites, and there`s no need for the extra burden of
“the enemies of mankind created for the purpose of furthering their evil goals”
#13 by Asgardian117 on 04/19/2013 - 11:58 pm
Anti whites are now saying on youtube for whites to accept white genocide or prepare for war from non whites who will fight in their own countries due to deplorable conditions and it will spill over into white countries…they are hanging by the last knot on the rope…they are truly screwed and they know it.
#14 by dungeoneer on 04/20/2013 - 12:25 am
One of the followers of the “Stop White Rabbit” group is now saying 50% of the global population is anthropoligically speaking “caucasian” and therefore supposedly white so no need to worry about white genocide.
We will ask him why he`s not campaigning against their policy of not accepting genocidal mass immigration and “assimilation” like he supports for real white nations, and why he`s not demonizing them with the”Racist” Hate word.
And we will remind the audience he is justifying genocide.
#15 by Conrad on 04/20/2013 - 12:00 pm
“Anti whites are now saying on youtube for whites to accept white genocide or prepare for war…”
At the Battle of Thermopylae, Xerxes I, the King of the Persians sent a note to Leonidas.
“Come on Leonidas accept defeat you know that you can’t win.”
Leonidas answered, “Sure why not, besides I wouldn’t want to get my nice new pretty uniform all dirty.”
#16 by Jason on 04/20/2013 - 1:35 am
I got this reply from an Anti-White. It sums up the approach of trying to pick apart every single word. I thought it was a good example of that attempt:
“Which anti-racists say this? What specifically is “the race problem”? Define what you mean by a ‘white’ country and a ‘black’ country? How could 99% of the population (rough estimate of people who would consider themselves anti-racist) organize secret meetings to discuss codewords. Finally, why would so many white people be anti-white! If you can give a reasoned answer to all these questions you’ll have yourself another supporter, until then I’ll continue to consider you crazy.”
#17 by dungeoneer on 04/20/2013 - 2:41 am
Don`t keep us in suspense Jason, how did you reply?
I would favor ignoring the rest and saying:
“You`re agreeing with the genocidal anti-white state religion that whites must`nt be allowed a homeland anywhere on Earth then you ask how you so-called “anti-racists” can be anti-white?”
#18 by Jason on 04/20/2013 - 4:28 am
I haven’t responded. His approach of seeming to be interested and asking tons of picky questions is one of the things I’ve seen Anti-Whites do that eat up tons of our time. (In this case he is too obviously Anti-White, but I’ve seen it done better).
The danger of engaging in a bunch of back-and-forth with him is that someone reading the forum might think he has some valid points (as 117 pointed out a few days ago).
You and most here already know that. Your response is a good approach. I would like an all purpose response to ALL such nitpicking replies.
#19 by dungeoneer on 04/20/2013 - 5:12 am
Yes a balance must be struck.
“I would like an all purpose response to ALL such nitpicking replies.”
I`ve found this to be a good all-rounder suitable for unabashed and “mantra curious” anti-whites:
“Do you support white people`s genocide law right to maintain our group existence by refusing mass immigration and “assimilation” somewhere on Earth?”
Anti-white n8glenn flat out said “No”, followed by the usual freedom to intermarry with non-whites strawman.
#20 by Asgardian117 on 04/20/2013 - 11:52 am
When this bastard asks you to define white countries tell him that you dont have to general wesley clark already did that for him when he said there is no room in the 21 century for homogenous european state…its the truth you arent lying, and when he asks you to define black countries just tell him “would you go to zimbawe and ask them if their country was considered black”?
#21 by Conrad on 04/20/2013 - 12:22 pm
“Which anti-racists say this? What specifically is “the race problem”?
* Just pass along the links to those that ARE literally calling for the extermination of the white race.
Define what you mean by a ‘white’ country and a ‘black’ country?
* They don’t have any problem knowing what white means when they say we are the Cancer of the world.
How could 99% of the population (rough estimate of people who would consider themselves anti-racist) organize secret meetings to discuss code words.
* This is just smoke. How did 99% of the population get together and choose the word witch or heretic? Try every book, TV program or movie made in the last 100 years.
Finally, why would so many white people be anti-white!
* When have the masses EVER gotten it right? Treason / brainwashing.
Put together a collection of useful links and save them for these times & send the entire set at once.
#22 by dungeoneer on 04/20/2013 - 12:41 pm
The anti-whites accuse every white Tim Dick and Harry of “racism” the entire Paycheck Conservative wing circa 50% of the voting population, sporting fans, the armed services, the police, militia, young angry white men, etc,etc
They“re admitting to tyranny when they claim a 99% “belief” in the regime.
#23 by Bob on 04/20/2013 - 12:17 pm
Jason, your #18 is a full scale Coaching Point!
#24 by Caltocan on 05/19/2013 - 9:52 am
Hi Bob
Can you point me to a piece explaining more about BUGS and the difference it has to a ‘std’ pro white organisation?
I did also read “Bob’s Power Lever is Explanation” and how BUGS is dedicated to explaining the basic truth.
I have just started on Horus’s podcasts and I realise that BUGS is non voting politics for starters – so you arent interested in electoral ism..
Nor are you putting forward strategies for any one white nation or particular ethnicity. Its a international, global race based ‘thing’
I have seen this said
“BUGSers develop and test killer answers, for everything anti-Whites say.”
which is certainly the way I view BUGS – I view it as a refined set of arguments that our opponents find almost impossible to refute and you do it relatively simply without lengthy intellectual articles.
It seems to me at present that BUGS is like a wind tunnel tested car that in a way, is sort of like a gift for all whites regardless of country or ethnicity (Slav or Celt or Saxon et al) to smash PC barriers facing us. The main aim is stop white genocide.
In doing all of this though, this is where the ‘gift’ idea comes in, it appears you then at some stage will open opportunities for country based ethno nationalist electorally and/or street activism membership based organisations or parties to finally gain headway?
#25 by Caltocan on 05/20/2013 - 7:12 am
Hi I meant to say in regards to the question answering, I ask it not not just to Bob – as I realise he probably gets asked a thousand questions but anyone else deeply versed in BUGS.