At the end of comments on the last article two commenters agreed that I had approved AntiRacist Hitler and had therefore given a go-ahead for BUGS slathering off into part-time White Genocide and part-time trying to be a junior David Duke!
How DARE you?
In the first place, for me the entire emphasis of ARH was on how genocide can be sneaked in on ANYBODY, even on the Jews by Hitler. It is an attack on the CODING White Genocide cloaked in Groupspeak I liked .
And I did NOT approve ARH. I saw it when it was up, just like you did.
This is what totally confused the SPLC interviewer.
On their side, you recite the latest Party line.
I am a coach, not a puppeteer. I was insulted by the idea that I had to approve what White Rabbit did.
SPLC thought I was angrily denying we worked together.
To the Politically Correct person, not coordinating Groupthink is totally alien.
Don’t make decisions for ME based on YOUR wishful thinking.
#1 by ErwinRommelRabbit on 07/12/2013 - 1:10 pm
I beleive what Coach is trying to say is…When we bog ourselves down with “Jews and Views” or about how “Non-Whites do this and are like that..” You’re limiting yourself in how effectively you can use the one thing we’re here for. Fighting White Genocide. The Mantra.
This is coming from someone who has often trailed off into Pro-White LaLa Land nonsense. Still do.
#2 by ErwinRommelRabbit on 07/12/2013 - 1:25 pm
And to add a second thought. I look at the group as a Organic society. We defend one another but we can defend ourselves too.
There is no central decision maker on Propaganda, just that we agree on a few basics. This isen’t a dictatorship like the group thinking sheeple over at the SPLC 😛
#3 by Harumphty Dumpty on 07/12/2013 - 1:34 pm
“At the end of comments on the last article two commenters agreed that I had approved AntiRacist Hitler and had therefore given a go-ahead for BUGS slathering off into part-time White Genocide and part-time trying to be a junior David Duke!
That’s certainly not an accurate account of MY comments on that thread, even my earlier ones that were made before my thoughts were clear.
My two final comments on that thread
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/07/09/quick-note-my-second-reply-to-the-splc-article/#comment-63546
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/07/09/quick-note-my-second-reply-to-the-splc-article/#comment-63547
that immediately precede your comment, “NO! I did NOT approve any slathering off into anti-Semitism,” state my views and my concern clearly.
Are you comfortable with the direction that Horus has expressed himself as going in in this post by him (I actually put it up, with his permission, since he hadn’t been able to and had sent it to me) earlier in that thread:
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/07/09/quick-note-my-second-reply-to-the-splc-article/#comment-63531
In the splc article, when I came across the statement that Horus was an “avowed anti-semite,” I thought, wow, they sure don’t mind outright lying in order to paint us as just another group that’s like all the rest.
But then when I read Horus’ post that I just linked, I wondered if they would have stretched so far as to say that if Horus were doing as we do at White GeNOcide Project: tossing anything about Jews in the trash.
I’d guess that Horus’ views and my own about Jews are pretty much the same, but I only rated the term “malcontent” in the article.
And I’m not out to get Horus by any means. In personal correspondence as well as posts to me on SF, he’s helped me get my head straight about too many things for me to not understand his great value to BUGS. He’s able to point out useful things to me that apparently no one else can.
My own involvement in the splc article, and my realization that it had been stupid of me to not foresee that Jews of course would regard ARH as just a vicious (since Hitler is in it) attack on Israel and therefore on themselves, and that there would inevitably be pushback, of course is what led me to the concern I’m voicing.
Bob, when I have concerns, I’m going to voice them here. (btw, I have no way to get in touch with you directly. I don’t know your email address, and my request for skype connection with you that I made some days ago is still pending).
If in this case I was so immersed in my own feelings that I didn’t take care to frame things in a way that would be less insulting to your own feelings, I apologize to you.
#4 by OldBlighty on 07/12/2013 - 2:33 pm
@HD,
Genseric made the antisemitism accusation. I think that made you uncertain and it made me uncertain as well. Were we trolled?
Like you, I don’t want to see BUGS go down the drain. We see too much of that happening elsewhere in WN. They go off the rails into la la land and everything falls into a heap.
As for the SPLC, ARH or not, they were always coming. Bob has said repeatedly, this is war and they will be coming.
@Bob
Thanks for clearing that up.
#5 by Harumphty Dumpty on 07/12/2013 - 2:47 pm
Genseric is deeply devoted to what we’re doing. And he put “anti-semitic” in quotes…he was just noting that Jews would take it that way.
#6 by Simmons on 07/12/2013 - 2:06 pm
I liked ARH it was brilliant, no problems at all. I am tired of reading about the grumbles, if it is TTTGH then do it.
I go days without really paying any attention to what BUGs drama is about, and I am certainly not going to add to Bob’s drama with my own vanity dramas.
As for the SPLC article I skimmed it, it was the usual moronic left speak party line hit job I honestly cannot read them I know the contents by heart. I’m sorry people outside of Bob and Horus got mixed in with them, but stop acting like little girls around here, it shows weakness.
Anyway if Horus did spend hours on the phone with one of them I wish he would put out a podcast describing in detail his exchange. First Horus has improved his delivery style and second Horus is one of the few real political warriors I know on the alt-right the rest are usually essayists or venters.
#7 by Jason on 07/12/2013 - 8:14 pm
I have the same problem with the SPLC article; I can’t remember anything it said.
#8 by Simmons on 07/12/2013 - 2:32 pm
If anyone still has a WaPo log in that is not blocked post a link to ARH on Jen Rubin’s latest nonsensical rantings. They are conducting some witch hunt against some Southron wordist and it would help his cause to know that even Hitler is an avowed anti-racist.
#9 by Bob on 07/12/2013 - 2:46 pm
HD, I had a lot of problems from LL on my Skype, so I stopped letting people in.
Also, when asking for Skype access, NO ONE TELLS ME WHO THEY ARE. It is “T. Gurgle would like access.”
How the hell am I to know who T. Gurgle is on BUGS?
You can add to the request, “I am HD.”
#10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 07/12/2013 - 4:46 pm
I’d identified myself, but that message is shaded now, so maybe it didn’t go through. I just sent you a fresh one.
#11 by beefcake on 07/12/2013 - 2:47 pm
Well, so far nobody has called Michael Rudolph’s boss and gotten him fired after they read the SPLC article. ;p
Lets stick to what’s in the Mantra itself.
We avoid topics that sound like the typical WN AMPW’s like to talk about.
Keep to the Mantra logic, and NOTHING has changed about how we conduct business.
Post the whole Mantra where it fits, and the Mini-Mantras where they fit.
We bounce Mantra points off he Anti-Whites, and bugs buddy can help out with that.
The fact the SPLC wrote that article is because what we are doing something right and that got under their skin
Its a War of WORDS, and the SPLC knows we have a juggernaut.
Its a Juggernaut, they cannot stop it. The message itself IS what they fear, and THAT is why its the one thing they will not repeat in its entirely.
So we keeping moving the juggernaut forward.
I’m a little disappointed. I thought their hit piece would get more attention.
Always love free publicity.
#12 by Daniel Genseric on 07/12/2013 - 3:14 pm
Stop making it so “intellectual”, damn it.
Bob warned against it. BoardAd said he would ENFORCE it. Horus went ahead anyway and mixed the Mantra with what can be PERCEIVED as an “anti-semitic” message. Some of the more “public” pro-whites among us then reaped the CONSEQUENCES as a group because of it.
Our job is to FIGHT WHITE GENOCIDE
Our job is to FIGHT WHITE GENOCIDE
Our job is to FIGHT WHITE GENOCIDE
Sorry, but that is ‘End of’, full STOP.
#13 by Wm White on 07/12/2013 - 3:38 pm
Very good posts as usual but I remembered and thanks to “NationalSalvation.Net,” was able to find (what I believe to be) Bob’s succinct description of the “self-chosen tribes” impetus:
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“You remember what I (Bob) said below about Jewish motivations?
They have subjugated Jewish survival to a battle to the death against ANY loyalty non-Jews have to each other.
So if you read the history of the greeting “Heil!” today, your reference book will say it was anti-Semitic.” (but not mention, or gloss over as inconsequential, the fact it was originally an ancient Roman salute).
***
My point is they (splc, code word for anti-white interests ONLY) will always, viciously and without scruples, fight against ANY solidarity whites may try to create for their own survival.
And since these anti-whites are the dominant elites, who (along with many white race traitors) control policy and opinion today, we should avoid that third rail at present.
Thus, leaving “joos and news” to other groups; since it doesn’t strengthen our main goal, which is –awareness of ‘White Genocide’ happening in all and only white countries, now.
#14 by Daniel Genseric on 07/12/2013 - 4:12 pm
We were at about 25k-30k forum members six or seven years ago. That was when I registered at SF for the SECOND time – well before we opened the doors to “Swarmfront”. Now, look at where our marketing has helped them arrive at. 275,000 members!
And the above quote is only ONE of the hundreds of times Bob has repeatedly warned us about N&J and to FOCUS on policing our own population.
Be patient. They will ask the questions you want them to ask, but they will do so on their own time.
So, I humbly and respectfully request that you stay on message, render to BUGS that which belongs to BUGS and leave the rest to the masses.
#15 by Asgardian117 on 07/12/2013 - 10:03 pm
He who wields the MANTRA, if he be worthy shall save our race.
Nothing more nothing less Mantra+White Genocide+Our Talking Points.
Swing Mantra Hammer, catch your breath, swing again until White Genocide has come to a screeching hault.
#16 by H.Avenger on 07/12/2013 - 11:07 pm
I did not talk to them for hours (They did not get my age correct…nor have I ever daytraded stocks …lol). And I don’t talk to anyone for “hours”! lmao
I only talked to them twice. The first time was for 15 to 20 minutes and very standard. The second time lasted probably a good hour. I never talked about anything personal. “What does that have to do with White GeNOcide?” is what I always say…..The SPLC’er did know the first and last name of my artist. That kept me on the line with him quite a bit longer. Since very few know his full name. In all fairness to our resident mole……probably a lucky guess….maybe. We talked about family guy scripts and even web metrics. They were interested in how many rabbits we have out there spreading the Mantra Fire. Web Metrics are all voodoo. And we have FB groups that go thousands deep….so who really knows these days. Obviously, they had ran across the Mantra once or twice.
Anyhow, many of the quotes are soundbites and just a “little” out of context to say the least. In regards to being an an antisemite. I explained to him:”anyone that disagrees with the Jewish Elites (or maybe I said Abe Foxman’s) is an antisemite”…..”and I have no problems with voicing disagreement to their endless pushing of White Genocide…..which means I have no problems with being viewed as an AntiSemite.” Or something to that extent. No different that what I have said a 1000 times on FTWR. I see no reasons to back down to anyone pushing White GeNOcide….just because they are Jewish etc
In regards to ARH, I explained the following and only the following in my recollection. ARH is simply the Mantra brought to life via cartoon. ARH is a fantasy cartoon regarding a fantasy character …however all the quotes are real. Hitler never said these things to the Jews. But Jewish elites have said all these things to my race. .. ….
In regards to Bob and ARH. As stated in an email to HD ….. did not mean to insinuate that Bob was some mastermind behind ARH (HD does not have bad intentions. I have realized over the years that there is a big difference between posting the Mantra and Mantra thinking. One is simple …the other takes quite a bit of time. Many Mantra thinkers and budding thinkers face the same problem. I can say something to Bob and he knows exactly what I mean….where as someone else takes it the wrong way or out of context). I was merely thinking out loud for HD. Bob knew an animation was coming out spotlighting the Mantra. He knew it was called AntiRacist Hitler. He knew it was supposed to come out on the April 20th. Bob saw it and liked it…..for Mantrastic reasons. Bob was not worried about the use of Hitler etc. He knew it was the Mantra in Motion. The actual date might have been picked by one of the Europeans in thinking about it a second time. But that is all for the historians now. As stated many times, anyone can blame me for anything having to do with it. WRR produced it and I did help write it.
But Bob is correct. The SPLC was mythed that Bob did not know this or that about White Rabbit Radio or even the Swarm. Much less that he had never listened to a word of my podcasts. Despite of their writings insinuating the contrary, they assumed Bob was some mastermind controlling everything etc. Or that is way I took it………They certainly had not read the blog enough to understand the Robert Whitaker School of Management.
Had we actually talked for “hours”….maybe they would have.
#17 by Epiphany on 07/13/2013 - 5:08 am
We Whites are the ones being oppressed!
#18 by Bob on 07/13/2013 - 1:36 pm
Please remember that in final interviews on security clearance, with my career and reputation on the line,I told the final questioner, at least one of whom was Jewish that, IN HIS opinion, I AM anti-Semitic.
I always got clearance.
Don’t try to lie when you are being questioned by a top interrogator.
#19 by Harumphty Dumpty on 07/13/2013 - 3:18 pm
I feel pretty much in accord with Old Blighty’s statement (though I doubt that either he or I would actually “walk,” from BUGS):
“A one off video about Hitler and the Jews is not a big deal, but if it is video after video focusing on Jews, that would make me walk.”
ARH aside, I don’t know if my assumptions about what Horus is doing on his site, based on his comment that I put up on the recent blog and linked above, were hasty or not.
I just took a quick tour of his site, and I don’t find any comments about Jews. I couldn’t see the comments to endgame exotica, but apparently they’re for subscribers only, which makes them less of a concern to me. I haven’t listened to many podcasts at the site, so don’t know about them.
So possibly I created a tempest in a teapot. As with most things that aren’t a simple math problem, I end up feeling somewhat confused.
What I AM certain of, is that keeping the Mantra message from being distorted even here where we guard it at its core location, BUGS, is going to be a challenge in the road ahead. Bob knows from his own experience that keeping it from going in the direction of “the Jews” even among ourselves requires vigilance.
I’m glad this discussion elicited Bob’s clear statement once again, so that new persons who come to us won’t think that ARH or anything else that may be going on may indicate a change in BUGS policy.
#20 by Harumphty Dumpty on 07/13/2013 - 3:35 pm
Of course sufficiently far down the road, the world will have changed enough that the Mantra will have to be changed or replaced in order to fit the new reality.
I hope that point doesn’t arrive until my time is long past, because that’s going to be REALLY confusing!
Well actually I hope it does arrive, because that should mean that we’ve made great progress.
#21 by OldBlighty on 07/13/2013 - 4:35 pm
I would absolutely walk. And its not about taking my toys and going home, its about doing what works.
#22 by Asgardian117 on 07/13/2013 - 8:40 pm
Horus talks about alot of things, he HAS to. He doesnt dwell on one topic for to long but what he does is very important AND unique. He infuses white genocide into EVERYTHING he discusses and shows how its relevant to whatever topic he may have initially discussed. EVERYTHING is a segway into white genocide with him, its fluid and natural it doesnt feel manufactured that is not a easy thing to do.
Remember bob talked about compromises AWHILE ago.