At a convention Horus and I went to, we went to Dr. Duke’s table, we drooled at his beautiful Russian lady friend, and then sat with Dave at his computer. He showed us his thousands of references, talked about his hundreds of millions of listeners.
Dave showed us that his approach WORKS.
Direct mail had what works down to a science. A statistically valid test mailing can be made with only about 3,000 letters, so they could try every single variation out, from short paragraphs to long paragraphs. From short sentences to long sentences, even down to commas.
Every single word and layout was a science, based on one thing:
Contributions.
I do not mean to compare David Duke to those professional conservatives. He is the real thing, a Comrade. But the point is that what WORKS is entirely a matter of what you are trying to accomplish.
Let me get to the obvious point:
What WORKS depends on your answer to the question, “What are you working ON?”
Show me the MONEY!
I deal in power.
The rules of money and fame are merely different, but the achievement of power directly violates all of the ways on getting money or fame.
Direct mail uses The Latest Thing. We constantly bring up, oh hell, let’s be frank, we shove down their throats a topic they never even heard of, and the last thing it is, is in the news.
Direct mail and Dave’s continued fame depend on stating what people want stated.
Real people, as opposed to us, want an Inevitable Victory, a chance to just plain bitch and complain.
What we do violates every rule of fame or fund raising.
Dave and SF deal in hundreds of thousands.
For us, hundreds would be nice.
I have always operated this way.
I have spent a lifetime getting the ideas in that changed the world.
By now, you should find that extravagant claim easy to understand, since you have been a part of this campaign.
Bob’s whole approach is very, VERY different.
Let me repeat what I have said before, and you should understand it better now:
“I don’t want fame, I don’t need money.”
“All I ask is to rule the world.”
#1 by Simmons on 03/28/2014 - 8:39 am
My guess is that cutting edge thought/political rhetoric won’t even come close to having hundreds, maybe just dozens of people.
I base that on an assumption that we are dealing with what can be loosely described like a fire. A fire goes from smoldering to an inferno an incredibly short time.
A society is based on metaphysical assumptions shared by it and guided by its priest class of the usual cynical manipulators. Our current society has degenerated to the point that enough people are looking for the exits, and the carny barkers on all sides of the political spectrum are getting hoarse and the crowds are getting restless.
BUGs is opening the gates/doors to that carnival/prison.
To conclude my too long essay, don’t be surprised to hear some very smart conservatives giving us that old line “well duh, everyone knows that” when we give them our lines.
#2 by Bob on 03/28/2014 - 8:59 am
That happened, in spades, when all the conservatives beat their chests and shouted they had always supported appealing to the “Reagan Democrats,” called “Wallace Democrats” on November 1, 1980.
#3 by Jason on 03/28/2014 - 11:14 am
This is a bigger power play than defeating Communism. After all, most Americans would openly tell you they didn’t like Communism. So, when Reagan called them the Evil Empire, the masses cheered.
But in this case we are changing what the masses themselves think. It’s hard to find any White people who will simply say Whites deserve a living area too (in private or anonymously, Lord knows not in public). Yes, I know 2/3s of them vote as a White block already, but they would all swear race has nothing to do with it.
If Whites are prepared to be pro-White now and just need a good message, then that is one thing. But if most of them are going to break down crying, stomping their feet, and screaming they are NOT pro-White because they are NOT a Naziwhowantstokill6millionJews, well, we are working on an even bigger change.
And maybe one that will take a little longer? I honestly don’t know. Maybe they just need a cathartic moment to be honest with themselves.
#4 by WmWhite on 03/28/2014 - 10:57 am
Whoa! nice stars and stripes … what were we talking about again?
#5 by Jason on 03/28/2014 - 8:27 pm
LOL – BBG does a great job selecting pictures for the articles, but BBG, you are supposed to enhance the story, not steal the spotlight!!
#6 by Horus on 03/28/2014 - 11:40 am
Good memories. LMAO. I remember sitting in David’s hotel suite and Ole Bob sitting there half ignoring him. All the while staring and talking to the blonde Russian and playing with her little white dog. I don’t remember the drooling. But I do recall the gawking. That was the first time I met the infamous Dr Duke. So I was getting educated about his video production. I am surprised Bob could even remember anything other than the blonde!
David: “Here are my video stats and what I have planned etc”
Ole Bob: “What? Video? Who are you? Oh yeah David! Sorry.. I am busy having a conversation here with this gorgeous girl.”
Horus: “silence and making sure Bob doesn’t fall over on the little white dog. I apologize to the girl for Bob’s laser stare. And explain that he is an old man and can’t see all that well.”
Ole Bob: “Oh don’t listen to White Rabbit…..I AM STARING and I see JUST FINE.”
(small embellishments allowed for BUGS history)
#7 by Horus on 03/28/2014 - 2:30 pm
Went on Circus Maximus last night to talk about the Mantra and answer some questions on it’s use and various other things. We had an Anti-White call in toward the end. You guys can have a listen.
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/circus-maximus-episode-viii-march-27.html
#8 by WmWhite on 03/28/2014 - 7:01 pm
@Horus
Your ability to express the pro-white agenda is both entertaining and highly informative. I’m glad we have someone as articulate as you fighting against white genocide.
I’m also jealous that both you and Bob got to see (Anastasiya) in the flesh –so to speak.
#9 by Horus on 03/31/2014 - 6:35 pm
WmWhite,
Checks in the mail. Thank you for the kind words.
#10 by Secret Squirrel on 04/01/2014 - 5:45 am
IMO that’s the best interview show you’ve done Horus.
#11 by Jason on 04/01/2014 - 8:58 am
Horus, that is a great interview, especially explaining the psychological warfare imposed on us and why it is impossible to make long arguments in such an environment. And why Mantra points break through.
Everyone please listen.
#12 by Mike M on 03/28/2014 - 5:18 pm
I’m sorry guys. I understand the words, but not the meaning. What is it about ?
#13 by Jason on 03/28/2014 - 6:08 pm
Bob has made a distinction between Membership groups that are looking for $dues versus what we do. A regular Membership group (like the NRA or David Duke) has to appeal to what some potential group of dues-payers wants to hear.
For David Duke,that means a lot of Jew talk, because that sells. But in doing that, you give up power. You are making money, you are getting famous, but you are basically pandering to a crowd. You aren’t moving the needle as they say.
We are NOT making money or getting famous. But are actually trying to change what people think.
#14 by Mike M on 03/28/2014 - 6:11 pm
Thanks for your explanation Jason ! I got it now thanks to you.
#15 by Jason on 03/30/2014 - 9:25 am
You might check out this page of Bob:
http://www.nationalsalvation.net/basics.html
You go through the topics at the top and the side and learn so much about his thinking. It’s a gold mine that helped me a lot.
And then there is his book, which can be bought at Amazon or you can get it free using the password provided on the upper right of this page, called “Why Johnny Can’t Think”.
#16 by WmWhite on 03/28/2014 - 7:08 pm
@Jason
your explanation and Horus’s interview are a good general breakdown of the facts and then ‘synthesis’ of the sought after goal(s) –thank you.
#17 by Secret Squirrel on 03/28/2014 - 9:10 pm
Its not just about fees collectors, its also about our respectable flag wavers as well.
Respectable flag wavers Water-down Whitaker, so they can get Respectable boots on the ground.
They Water-down Whitaker so much, ordinary Whites can’t Use It to defend themselves.
They don’t understand revolution is not about Them and their flag waving meetups. Its about Ordinary Whites being taught to defend themselves in every day life.
#18 by Steadiness on 03/28/2014 - 11:00 pm
anti-racist is a code word for anti-White was a liberating moment for me and I’m assuming for so many others. Now people discussing organizing the next White Man March are saying that that slogan is good and diversity = white genocide is strange and hyperbolic.
And I agree that the phrasing diversity = white genocide is more awkward. I think its pretty clear that multiculturalism = white genocide, but, the word multiculturalism is almost dead, while diversity diversity diversity say the Cathedral mouthpieces.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=multiculturalism%2C%20diversity%2C%20racism%2C%20hate&cmpt=q
Interestingly enough, peak hate was in April 2012, though since hate is an emotion, it could be meaningless.
White genocide isn’t in the news headlines. Yet.
#19 by Mike M on 03/29/2014 - 2:19 am
Diversity is not white genocide, it’s the beauty of the world. but
“Diversity” is White genocide !!!
I think the word is right on topic
#20 by Fred Richthofen on 03/29/2014 - 9:19 am
I’ve seen a lot of complaints about “Diversity” = White genocide and the complaints aren’t much different than the complaints directed at “Anti-racist” is a code word for Anti-White (which is now completely accepted).
If “Diversity” = White genocide were a pathetic failure, you can be guaranteed that the media would have picked it up.
They’re always looking for a way to show that the message is ignorant, stupid, hateful, or absurd.
Has anyone considered purposely misspelling it? That could be too tempting for them to pass up. Imagine the headline: “Ignorant Haters Misspell Hate Message In Worldwide Hate Campaign.”
Divercity = White genocide
Diversity = White genoside
Diversity = White jenocide
#21 by Yankee Rebel on 03/30/2014 - 5:50 am
To Fred,
I like to intentionally misspell it like this:
DIEversity = White GENOcide
The DIE is for what genocide is about and the GENO is short for genotype.
#22 by Secret Squirrel on 03/29/2014 - 12:31 am
“hyperbolic.”
Got proof of that?
If they are attempting to hijack Bugsters and telling us not to talk about White Genocide, that’s bad.
#23 by -Gar5- on 03/29/2014 - 5:34 am
I disagree – if your enemy is saying “do this, not that” no one in their right mind would listen to them.
I accidentally got off message once when I was less experienced, talking about genocide tribunals and the anti-White said “tell me more about these tribunals”.
A huge red flag.
#24 by Mike M on 03/29/2014 - 5:45 am
AS I’m fairly new around here could you develop please Gar ? I think i’ve read somewhere that if we speak about that we need to say that anti-white would bleed green, pay hefty sums in reparation. Am I wrong ?
#25 by Secret Squirrel on 03/29/2014 - 6:51 am
@Gar5
Enemy? We’re talking about the organizers of the White Man March here.
And you should know better, there will be no tribunals. That goes back to a misunderstanding Horus had of Bob’s use of the word Genocide and UN Law. Since its on FTWR 1 or 2, new people keep bringing it up and frankly its long past become irritating.
Money punishments work in long the term, while tribunals are a one off affair. Which one sounds like practical politics?
#26 by Jason on 03/29/2014 - 8:01 am
That’s a great point Gar. The enemy makes it obvious what he wants us to talk about and what he desperately wants to avoid.
#27 by Horus on 03/31/2014 - 6:37 pm
Secret Squirrel,
There is no hijacking a message such as ours. Stay on message and don’t worry about the trolls.
#28 by Laura on 03/29/2014 - 1:41 pm
American Free Press article by John Friend discussing White Genocide:
https://americanfreepress.net/?p=16155
#29 by Secret Squirrel on 03/29/2014 - 11:50 pm
Thanks Laura.
#30 by Yankee Rebel on 03/30/2014 - 6:53 am
Yes, thank you for the link. I enjoyed the article and podcast very much.
#31 by Asgardian on 03/29/2014 - 9:55 pm
Yes I was on my high horse for awhile saying I didnt want money reparations I wanted ACTUAL tribunals. Bob knocked me off my horse and explained WHY tribunals wont work and WHY reparations WILL work.
This is all about what works…..right?
#32 by Bob on 03/30/2014 - 8:34 am
Asgardian: RIGHT!
#33 by herdad on 03/30/2014 - 10:07 pm
What’s the difference between what David Duke does and white rabbit?
Because they both say what THEIR audience wants to hear and then get paying memberships from it.
So does this mean the White genocide message is exclusive?
#34 by Al Parker on 03/31/2014 - 2:13 am
“but the achievement of power directly violates all of the ways on getting money or fame.”
What about maintaining power in the longer term? It seems to correspond to what side Big Money is on.
#35 by Bob on 03/31/2014 - 8:40 am
In the real world Big M0ney has little or no interest in the long term.
#36 by herdad on 03/31/2014 - 11:05 am
I have listened to white rabbit talk and noticed that he does very little, if at all, in what a BUGSER has been taught to do, and that is focus on the BASICS and repeat. The BUGS approach of ‘staying on topic’ is far from what white rabbit does, which is to talk endlessly about everything else first and then white genocide.
Even white rabbits niche market are not effectively having white genocide explained to them but IMO are left with the feeling that this white rabbit guy is a professional propagandist who really knows his stuff.
IMO white rabbit has gone off topic and ONLY talks to HIS audience thus appealing for membership dues.
So when is it okay for one of ours to get off message OR is it excepted when they are fund-raising for animations?
Personally whenever I get a opening to speak about white genocide and more so when I have a audience I stay on message and never deviate course BUT then again I am trying to explain white genocide and Not raise funds.
I know that sticking to the basics works and explaining my point simply and making it easy for people to understand works. I dont talk about the splc, social engineering or propaganda and I especially dont need to sound smart and stroke my ego.
I have a job to do and membership dues is not a part of it.
#37 by WmWhite on 03/31/2014 - 12:30 pm
Uh-Oh !!!
What’s this about?
#38 by Secret Squirrel on 03/31/2014 - 5:41 pm
@herdad
Everyone that listens to Horus, already knows what his website is about.
#39 by Horus on 03/31/2014 - 6:50 pm
herdad,
New around eh? Troll much?
White Rabbit Radio does not have a membership organization. We do sell digital media to support ourselves. Successfully.
Being on message is like watching paint dry. It is boring …..until the end …when everyone can see all the action. Then it gets exciting.
Getting rabbits on message is like herding cats. Very difficult. And no formula works twice. So entertainment can play a tremendous roll in attracting those that will go on to attract those. Kyle Hunt over at Renegade is another ProWhite who talks White Genocide. He has been very successful because he can entertain an audience at the same time. Kyle runs fund raisers for the White Man March. IMO Kyle is a better fund raiser than yours truly. But I don’t fund raise. I just put it out there for those that want to see animations faster. And soon the first batch will see the first animation that THEY paid for. Like the rest of the planet, You get to watch for free. Your welcome.
But Kyle and White Rabbit Radio both have something in common. Neither of us have Ole Bob’s pension.
So it is …what it is.
#40 by shari on 03/31/2014 - 12:29 pm
Herdad is a silly rabbit.
#41 by seriouswon on 03/31/2014 - 1:06 pm
Happy Birthday Mr. Whitaker. You and we are growing more powerful everyday.
#42 by seriouswon on 03/31/2014 - 1:08 pm
PS. We DO need money. While mantra-ing the world, we need to be personally successful and we need to start taking back market niches that we have allowed non-Whites to dominate.
Will it be easy, NO. But it must be done.
#43 by Yankee Rebel on 03/31/2014 - 5:18 pm
We do need a little money for things like banners, internet expenses, etc., but Bugsers are a real grassroots organization. I paid for my own flyers for the White Man March, but I was sent a beautiful banner which I will use as soon as I am able to.
#44 by Asgardian on 04/01/2014 - 10:17 am
Herdad, have you listened to Ftwr’s free podcasts? You do understand that EVERYTHING Horus talks about leads back to white genocide…right? Did you ever hear of a parent that mixes their childs medicine with yogurt? They do that so the child doesnt spit the medicine out because sometimes your medicine can be hard to take. That is what he does with white genocide. He mixes it up with entertainment so no matter what you do once you heard it….YOU CANT UNHEAR IT. Off message? Have you seen his teams animations? He makes white genocide sexy, its SAD that a subject like that has to be made shiny and cool but unfortunately this is the age we live in…the Age Of White Genocide.
IMO we are lucky to have him.
#45 by WmWhite on 04/01/2014 - 11:54 am
Well said Asgardian, we’re lucky to have Horus’s intellect and communication skills as a guide, and him as an ally.
I think some Bugsters might be a tad bit rigid, they frown on anything that doesn’t mimic the Mantra verbatim.
What they need is to loosen up and embrace ‘manta thinking’ also –and not just “sola mantra scriptura.”
#46 by Asgardian on 04/01/2014 - 3:08 pm
When you are tired.
Burnt out.
Tired of being called names.
Feeling alone.
Remember this is why we do what we do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592988/Infant-10-months-dies-mothers-boyfriend-threw-flight-stairs-forcibly-crib-causing-deep-brain-injury-rib-fracture.html#ixzz2xam5aEgY