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Institutions Versus Truth

Posted by Bob on April 1st, 2014 under Bob's Book, Coaching Session, History, How Things Work, Political Correctness

BUGS can be an invaluable experience for a Mantra Thinker.

We are a tiny group and will remain a tiny one.

That is because we simply refuse to adopt any of the other pro-white organizations to grow.

Dr. Duke showed to me and White Rabbit his thousands of mentions in Google and his giant membership.

The time will come when any of you can make your living off a cause.

When that time comes you will have to compete, not by spreading a basic concept, but by following another set of rules altogether.

That is where truth is forgotten and Doctrine develops.

What I am saying here is already understood by BUGSERS. My point here is that what comes naturally to you in BUGS can give a complete new world view.

“Why is this information produced?” is the first question we answer here at BUGS. photo wesley.png

Large organizations’ information has to be distorted as they become big organizations. Those who are converted and paying their dues want something entirely different from what you use to spread the truth.

A forgotten reason why the Welsh coalminers and American settlers were converted to Methodism was that when Wesley came to preach to them most of them had never heard a sermon before. The Church of England provided “livings” for its clergy, and there were very few comfortable and assured little “livings” in Wales or Georgia.

The Methodist Church soon became exactly the same in Wales and America, a place where a man could settle down and preach for a living.

In BUGS, you begin with a rule that is obvious in any other part of life:

A prison is run by the inmates. The warden may give you a lecture, but no one who survives believes those are actually the rules.   You survive by learning the pecking order and finding out, not what is written down, but what those who really make the rules want.

Universities are run by the faculty. Their Truth is entirely a product of what those who call themselves “intellectuals” want.

BUGS has the most important mission ever assigned to any human organization. 

But you also have a chance here to EXPERIENCE the basic reality that cripples the spread of any real truth.

  1. #1 by Yankee Rebel on 04/01/2014 - 5:07 pm

    I do not think I will be one of those that will make a living off the cause of White-Genocide because I do not like to compromise unless I have to. Gimme the Truth, Nothing but the Truth, All I want is the Truth.

  2. #2 by Al Parker on 04/01/2014 - 9:20 pm

    I think the genocide mantra is a great ice breaker to get people to begin thinking differently.

    Eventually, however, the question “Why is ‘white’ important?” will need to be answered. And it will need to be answered with twenty-first, not nineteenth, century science that can stand up to the angry mobs. The reason is that you’re not simply making an intellectual point here. The message of genocide goes beyond that, and is essentially telling a white person who he/she should or should not start a family with. People don’t like being controlled and told what to do. It would have to be very important.

    • #3 by Jason on 04/01/2014 - 10:14 pm

      But do Tibetans have to prove why Tibetan is important? Would Blacks need to prove why Black is important to an angry mob once they had pointed out a genocide to their people?

      Genocide is genocide. When people become aware of White Genocide, I can’t imagine them saying “okay, well fine, it’s genocide, but now you must prove why White is important”.

    • #4 by SwampRabbit on 04/02/2014 - 2:06 am

      You’re missing the point, AP. We are here and deserve to exist in the future, as we are, just as much as any other group of people. No other race is being targeted for elimination, genocide, in its home country. ONLY our race is being targeted, in our own countries.
      But, just to humor you, White is important to me because White people are beautiful and I love looking at the societies and countries that were built by OUR ancestors, touching the stones stacked on top of stones that were placed by the hands of OUR parents, knowing that OUR Folk did these things and have more to offer the world. That’s just a tiny, small part of why White is important. We venerate our ancestors, who gave us our existence, and MUST secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. If anyone can’t appreciate those things, then what use are they to me?

    • #5 by Denounce Genocidists on 04/02/2014 - 12:21 pm

      Of course, white people in general think white genocide is unimportant so there`s no need for any white genocide censorship to be taking place.

      That`s an amusing theory Al.

      • #6 by Steadiness on 04/02/2014 - 10:29 pm

        It’s more than amusing, it’s the #1 most salient fact about recent history: the notion that race exists is uniquely horrifying to White people.

        The neoreactionary brain trust has recently been discussing this, see . As usual, it’s pretty tl;dr, and the Mantra doesn’t even seem to be on their radar. The points the Xenosystems guy makes are that Libertarianism is implicitly White, the anti-White criticisms of Whiteness made by the university cultural marxists are actually is implicitly and uniquely White, and the biggest problem White Nationalism has is that Whites are universalist by nature.

        At some point we’re going to need to make the transition between raising awareness of White genocide, and pointing out that anti-racist is a code word for anti-White and to promote diversity is to promote White genocide, and confronting the universalism inherent in our racial soul.

        For which the answer that Whites are great is simply not enough.

        • #7 by Jason on 04/03/2014 - 12:04 am

          Yet, in truth, no Whites are universalists. Every White liberal assumes White superiority. They would never dream of holding Blacks and Browns to the same moral standards they hold Whites. Their view of non-Whites is, from a moral standpoint, that of a child.

          If they believe in universalism, why don’t they demand Japan open up to Multiculturalism? Or Nigeria? Or any other non-White country.

          In fact, all White liberals act paternalistically toward non-Whites, and that very paternalism implies a belief in inequality.

        • #9 by Steadiness on 04/03/2014 - 1:13 am

          Sure. And behind the paternalism is the belief that they should be, must be, and are, just like us. Ironically for progressive dogma, it takes a certain unfamiliarity with the Other to think that, but it is what it is.

          As soon as the British built their empire, its purpose went from being their own enrichment to the White Man’s Burden. Demands for White self-abasement gradually led over a number of years to independence, first for Egypt, then Jamaica, then Rhodesia broke away (illegally, lol) to avoid the paternalism.

          Non-White powers have held imperial control over nations, including Whites, at various times in history. Did the Chinese ever think it was their burden to civilize Burma? Did the Ottomans ever implement affirmative action? But they did take White boys and train them to be elite Janissaries.

          • #10 by Denounce Genocidists on 04/03/2014 - 6:17 pm

            Great job on the Stormfront-style anti-white water carrying and “not seeing” to the end of a sentence.

    • #11 by time for freedom on 04/02/2014 - 5:42 pm

      AP, you have completely missed the point here. Asking: “Why IS White Important?” assumes the present tense and, thus, the present existence of my race, the White race. Believe me when I say that is a hell of a lot better scenario that having to ask: “Why WAS White important?” in the past tense.

      The Mantra eliminates the inevitability of the second scenario.

    • #12 by -scythian- on 04/05/2014 - 2:03 am

      “Why is white important?”

      How dare you ask that question? You are justifying White GENOCIDE.

  3. #13 by Al Parker on 04/02/2014 - 3:19 am

    Neither blacks, Tibetans, whites nor any other group would be required to prove their race is important if they naturally felt that way amongst themselves. The mantra however, it is imploring white people of various national origins to have racial loyalty based on race, not simply shared culture, language and customs. I am making the point that opposition to white genocide demands the implementation of the difficult practice of racial hygiene vis-a-vis the growing racial minorities in white countries.

    • #14 by Jason on 04/02/2014 - 4:00 am

      Once the prohibition on pro-White speech is lifted, all kinds of issues will be addressed.

      But we will need to keep Mantra thinking up so that pro-White Institutions don’t go down the path of Zoroastrianism. Bob pointed out that in the beginning ONLY Aryans could belong to that religion. By the end, anyone could.

      The biggest threat I see among the pro-Whites is some kind of misplaced “Christianity” that tries to stand in the way of us protecting our race. I don’t say that to knock Christians, it’s simply that they are a major force. I could see a kind of “conservative”, gun-loving Christian White, who is vaguely pro-White, willing to join pro-White groups, but undercuts our race in a thousand ways.

      So, I certainly agree that 21st century science should play a big role in protecting our race, I just want to make sure we don’t set Mantra thinking aside once we get a breakthrough.

      • #15 by Secret Squirrel on 04/02/2014 - 9:52 pm

        “we will need to keep Mantra thinking up so that pro-White Institutions don’t go down the path of Zoroastrianism. Bob pointed out that in the beginning ONLY Aryans could belong to that religion. By the end, anyone could.”

        Good point.

        Visit Stormfront, Incogman, etc and you will find ones that will accept almost any “Aunty-Semite” – White men married to non-Whites, Jews against their own, etc.

        These people are Wordist.

    • #16 by SwampRabbit on 04/02/2014 - 10:41 am

      Come on, Al. The Mantra is is an expression of opposition to the genocide of our race. The Mantra makes an accusation of the crime of genocide, White genocide, in every White country. Either you have loyalty, or you support White genocide. The Mantra is not imploring.

    • #17 by Denounce Genocidists on 04/02/2014 - 11:50 am

      We are in the business of dismantling the tyranny that imposes treason and genocide on us by demanding an open discussion of the treason and genocide taking place against us.

      We don`t implore with the mantra, we take command of moral white leadership (properly understood as those wielding the true power of words and ideas).

  4. #18 by HerDad on 04/02/2014 - 9:47 am

    ‘When that time comes you will have to compete, not by spreading a basic concept, but by following another set of rules altogether.’ -Bob

    We will always be a tiny group and don’t need massive numbers. So I feel my concerns are warranted here.

    We know there are many alex jones style shows out there, So lets agree on one thing first, that Our own alternative news guy has to compete for a share of the market pie.

    Now here is my CONCERN – white rabbit is violating the basic rules of Power.

    Before you get all defensive just Think about what I have to say. I am a BUGSER so I welcome feedback as long as it’s feedback and not just name calling.

    Bob has taught us what real power is and how to achieve it, but when you start to focus on what people want to hear you begin to expend all your time and energy on that task and Stop following the Basic rules to exercise power.

    “Getting rabbits on message is like herding cats.” -WR

    One basic rule of power and what BUGS does is that we don’t waste our time and energy herding cats, We stick to the Basics and Slam our white genocide message down everybody’s throats 24/7 without mercy. Herding cats is nothing but Administration and as far as I understand it this role has zero interest in REAL power. I too have a day job to make a living but that’s no Excuse for losing sight of where the power lies.

    “Being on message is like watching paint dry.” -WR

    Whatever white rabbits idea of what Works and what’s boring, do yourself a favor and search Bobs articles about power and you might understand that –
    “What WORKS depends on your answer to the question, What are you working ON?” -Bob

    I want Power and I for sure as hell wont waste My time trying to entertain my audience to get all my cats in line.

    I stick to the basics and not having “Ole Bob’s pension” is not an excuse I use.

    Power is what it is. Membership is what it is.

    • #19 by Horus on 04/02/2014 - 2:46 pm


      It can be difficult to tell online who is sincere and who is a troll. So lets not talk past each other. There is a difference between being a BUGser out there on message solo and helping put others on message en masse. One is straight forward and you are correct in being a purists. The other is incredibly tricky.

      If you know Bugs history, you know I was one of the first handful to be out spreading the Mantra. I very much had your attitude about purity of message (and still do). Bob asked me to do a podcast because his approach was not working in getting him a Swarm and the kind of attn he felt the Mantra deserved. And here we are today.

      So by all means stick to being on message in a purist sense. FYI, you are misinterpreting Bob ….because you are misinterpreting activities. As we all know, Bob is very good at being on message. But Bob could not break through to communicate to the crowd he wanted to communicate with to get them on message to get us a Swarm. Again, this is tricky stuff and time was of the essence. And it is easy to sit on the sidelines and talk this or that. Being on message and putting a group on message (or enticing them into being on message). Well they are not the same activities. It is what it is ….and either you understand it or don’t.

      You might want to look up Beefcake’s Bootcamp. You might like it. Also you might like Bob’s Untrained Eye. My stuff is not for everyone. BUT it worked in doing what Bob desired. And I have committed to keeping at it via animations and podcasts until the end of White Rabbit Genocide. So cheers and good luck.

      • #20 by Hidden In Plain Sight on 04/02/2014 - 4:14 pm

        Horus, the day you told me, in one of your podcasts, that I was an asset, That day was the proudest day of my life.
        And I have a university degree and two kids.

        • #21 by Horus on 04/03/2014 - 6:38 pm

          Hidden in Plain Sight,

          You are an asset. BUGSers are a HUGE asset. More so than they know.

      • #22 by HerDad on 04/02/2014 - 9:15 pm

        Because your so busy, I will share some basics. Real influence comes from the few BUGSERS we have on message who listen to the real professional who has exercised power for over 50 years, Bob. The power that he and his few BUGSERS are taking for themselves is definitely not achieved by “cat herding” as you call it and even go so far as saying its “very difficult” and I agree with you here BUT I say it’s impossible and a dangerous waste of your time and energy. So if you truly are wanting the one thing that will save Your race, POWER, then I would assume that stopping white genocide is what you should put first and then your interests second.
        But hey, you really might just like the fancy title of colonel and satisfied with zero power, thus doing very little for My race. Remember H that what I’m saying is concern over your already well traveled direction and its a shame that your wasting your talents in administration. This is the point I’m trying to make but the one your not addressing.

        Bob has thousands of articles written and available on the internet and the same goes for FTWR’s 70+ podcast that are already finished and available for those handful who desire what BUGS has to offer. So the rest of what Horus the Avenger does that’s focused on the same thing, Year after Year, is getting harder and harder to believe that it’s All Not Just About Dues and Status.

        You said it yourself, you achieved the goal of getting Bob his Swarm, so when’s the time you evaluate why what works doesn’t work? Your approach is not Free from becoming a old groove and in need of garbage canning.

        And finally, BUGS is all about purity of message unless someone is HIJACKING it for their own Purpose!

        • #23 by Jason on 04/02/2014 - 10:07 pm

          A lot of us wouldn’t be here except for Horus. I wish we had 10 more like him.

          • #24 by HerDad on 04/03/2014 - 10:32 am

            @Jason; And some kind words to the rest of our leaders for their part in YOUR path here and don’t forget to add that what they do really must work. You sound a lot like their faithful singing praise for THEIR achievements.

            • #25 by Horus on 04/03/2014 - 2:25 pm


              You sound like a troll more and more. Someone who has read Bob just enough to try to show up and stir shite. LOL. You are trying way too hard here.

              You imply that you post the Mantra. Where? Do you post and report?

        • #26 by HerDad on 04/03/2014 - 11:05 am

          After doing some thinking “herding cats” is just an EXCUSE to Justify your program of RECRUITMENT……. and I call BULLSHIT!!
          This is NOT about recruitment anymore, its about Horus OR worse MEMBERSHIPS.
          Do you realize that the most effective recruitment approach that BUGS employs is being used Every single day and is not limited to one sub genre like you actually Admit. This deadly recruitment tool is called POSTING THE MANTRA and when the right person sees it and is interested they will come and find us, they DONT need attractive dialogue sold to them like CONSUMERS ready to pay for more of what they want to hear.

          BOB says; “ The problem is that, when it comes to a real fight, what you need is a strategy that is not aimed at recruiting, but at WINNING. And our movement has to long been a product of what appeals rather than what WINS.”

          • #27 by Horus on 04/03/2014 - 2:10 pm


            Here is one last post for you. I CAN already guess your REAL name. Or as we should say YOUR old username.

            For those interested in the Basics. This is what I learned from Bob that made FTWR successful. You can never RECRUIT anyone to be on message. Never Works. You have to ENTICE. Meaning you have to attract them into WANTING to be on message. This attracting process is referred to as “herding cats”. Why? Cats cannot be herded nor can they be recruited. You have to put out something they WANT. And you better damn well keep putting it out once you find what they want until the deal is done.

            This is a basic.

            Never recruit….always attract.

            This is what I have told HD a dozen times (maybe two dozen) with this White House Petition Stalwart deal. The more you try to recruit. The more unattractive it will be to most. Perverse Law …but true. So it does not matter the logic or how many times Stormfronters by the thousands should initial them. They DON’T. Why? He has not figured out a way to attract them into doing so YET. He is in Bob’s position on Stormfront 5 years back. He needs himself a White Rabbit. But this White Rabbit does not have any grand ideas for him ……at the moment. I may in the future.

            HerDad, posting the Mantra is Great. Mantra thinking is even better. Reading thousands of Bob’s posts is fantastic. It will take you a while to apply them. Get busy reading more instead of talking about things liker “herding cats” when you are clueless on the very concept.

            No on earth can say they were recruited by H. Avenger. And that is why I have been successful. In fact, Bob has more blog readers than ever. And non have been “recruited”. They were all attracted here. Before you start preaching the basics here. Please do your homework.

            I am more involved in Animations these days than podcasts. But I do continue the podcasts. I guess it is harder to troll in regards to White Rabbit Radio’s animations? They have certainly helped out our message. And have attractive many more on message. Maybe that is why you have not mentioned them.

            • #28 by SwampRabbit on 04/03/2014 - 7:04 pm

              I think one of the problems with attracting petition signers is that people don’t realize they can remain, for the most part, anonymous. The anonymous model works well for the Mantra because people see it posted, and how it works, over and over with various usernames. Another objection to HD’s Messages can also be applied to the Mantra; most people simply do not understand the concept, and importance, of PROPAGANDA. They look at a simple message and think, “That will never do any good.”, without even realizing that they have just been exposed to the good that it does, “SPREADING THE MESSAGE”. All they have to do is share it… That’s why the intellectuals won’t “stoop to our level”, in spite of the evidence that a simple consistent message WORKS, which for some reason they seem to hate. Personally, I think it’s because they forget that half of everyone are below average intelligence. Even The Great One, a master of propaganda, knew that you aim at the least common denominator. “The masses are asses.” -H.A.

              At any rate, I think one of this month’s messages is pure genius and should be posted monthly on every available forum.


              • #29 by Henry Davenport on 04/04/2014 - 1:55 am

                I’m very taken with that message too…it’s pdappui’s, and I’ve been thinking that it should be run every month, despite it’s getting the lowest response in signatures of any of them. It just feels like something that could become “an item.” Your remark confirms my feeling about that.

                It took several months for him to persuade me to run it, since it doesn’t repeat the Mantra phrases. Suddenly the light turned on in my head. As he put it shortly after, it’s like AntiRacist Hitler in that it plants a Mantra meme but without the terminology. I think it will be good to have one out of every four petitions that do it that way.

                His best idea IMO is that we need to focus attention on the Ivy League, because media reports every time someone farts there. I knew that was true the moment he said it, and he’s sent me several articles that demonstrate it. “Operation Poison Ivy” in my mind is of course petitions aimed at the Ivy League accompanied by emailings to professors, students, etc. there.

                Anyone interested in being a part of that, we will be able to use some help for sure.

                • #30 by SwampRabbit on 04/04/2014 - 3:19 am

                  Yeah, it’s not overtly repeating the exact Mantra phrases, but it’s definitely on message. What I like is that it starts with an idea that will make everyone curious, “end the war without any deaths”, then says, “declare them a “nation of immigrants””. The anti-Whites have beat “a nation of immigrants” to death. Everyone knows exactly who you mean when you say “a nation of immigrants”. It mocks the hypocrisy of White genocide diversity, without ever going into any of the points that puts anti-Whites on the defensive. I think it’s very clever. FTWR could easily adapt it to an animation that would fit the “sound-bite” format. LOL

                  • #31 by SwampRabbit on 04/04/2014 - 3:57 am

                    You could just add a line at the end, such as, “like in White countries, where Diversity equals White Genocide”.

                    That would make a nice, hard stop.

            • #32 by HerDad on 04/03/2014 - 9:33 pm

              H, Why do you Always start your response with insult or insinuation of trolling?
              The few people around here who get what I’m saying, your just making it obvious that your desperately trying to divert attention away from what I’m really questioning. Are you paranoid? Does fear of criticism or looking bad make you feel uneasy. If criticism = LL then I guess I’m LL. But that’s the exact same thing anti-Whites do when they say white genocide = HATE. Your exhibiting the same qualities I see when people are either justifying something or on the defensive because they know there position is WEAK.

              You should know that a BUGSer Grows with healthy criticism and doesn’t insinuate acts of trolling to the Team when he’s being questioned. And because your a long time member of this forum you should recognize the difference between LL and Herdad because this is all about YOU and not ME.

              So your subtext is. You have a trench. Your defending it with usual last ditch methods of name calling that’s all to familiar with the our line of business. You have failed to address the majority of what I have expressed. Where’s your comments on POWER cuz that’s what I want to Hear Horus acknowledge. But I know you WONT because you’ll just be found justifying what YOU think works.

              Does anyone around here have anything to say other than the usual fan club style comments or insults.

              HD: white rabbit feels the urge to say that Here because he’s the professional and wants everybody to know it. What you have done has been a success and like all strong egos like white rabbit THEY can do it better and want people to know.

              • #33 by Horus on 04/03/2014 - 10:17 pm


                You are talking apples to bananas. Your criticisms in part do not make any sense. You do not know your bugser history.

                I addressed your concerns nicely assuming you were misunderstanding something. Your concerns do not make any sense. They seem like trollish intentional misunderstandings. Yours truly faces criticism all the time. Mostly bitching from anonymous names online and it has never amounted to anything. I just keep hopping. These things come with the territory.

                Linux Lewis? No one mentioned Linux in this thread. Did someone mention Linux here?

                Now it sounds personal. So I will leave it at that.

                Herdad, Power is getting rabbits on message and getting out the message. The more people you have on message or get on message. The more power you have in regards to the message being empowered and empowering. If just posting the Mantra was working to get the Mantra out there back in the day. We would have been all set and there would have been no FTWR or White Genocide Project, or Beefcakes Bootcamp…etc. Bob would have been successful on Stormfront in regards to enticing them on message en mass etc….

                There is no “justifying what I think works”. There is only what HAS objectively worked. And what is currently working. With consistent messages…..someone…..anyhone has to get the ball rolling. Just a handful posting was fun and great. But it was not getting the “Whitaker Ball” rolling.

                In regards to trolls, we are consistently facing a few across different mantra related websites. And we always face them around dates of releases etc. As stated in a recent email in which I copy and pasted to a few others: “They magically show up on BUGS, WRR and now on ….Renegade Broadcasting. Across the board. On WRR it is bitching about Bob or the Mantra. On BUGS it is bitching about WRR content. LOL. And on Renegade it is trolling about the Mantra and BUGSers or the fact that Kyle is on the Mantra and talking about White Genocide.”

                Bugs….consider the above an FYI

                • #34 by Denounce Genocidists on 04/04/2014 - 12:24 am

                  I just had a look at all of Kyle`s recent renegade articles and comments and did`nt find any anti-mantra trolls but I did find this gem:

                  Black Community for blacks!

                  Asian Community for Asians!

                  Latino Community for Latinos!

                  White Community for racists!?

                • #35 by HerDad on 04/04/2014 - 1:02 am

                  Oh Man, how can you tolerate this stuff Bob, Please tell me it get’s easier with age and the piss and vinegar wears off and doesn’t require such deep breathes with concentrated timing! From what I getting here is our apple cart still so delicately balanced that you fear to rock it with a real opinion? If that’s the case then I will evaluate our progress and act accordingly but deep down I’m hoping you know what’s in store and are just waiting for the old grooves to get plied over with fresh sheets! You admitted that some of us will go the way of money but you wont give a shining example but I will cease and not press this because I know you stick to what works and I value the lesson.

                  Horus, once again I am not LL so stop trying to diffuse what I’m broaching here because I brought up the insinuation you were directing at me. You are beyond defense in doing so and I can prove that I am not him, just give me the way you choose to do so and I will. But man does your EGO piss me off no ends, but I guess the positive is it forces me to remind myself of the basics Bob has taught us and that’s “not make it personal.”

                  So I’m done with this. I have served my purpose and that’s in BUGS reading my concerns as best as I can articulate. That’s it.
                  There are no hard feelings here H. You know this has been read so you can’t undo that with insults.
                  Good luck to you also and I know we will meet again.

                  • #36 by Horus on 04/04/2014 - 10:56 am


                    Once again, you are hiding behind an anonymous name online. You jump on here and insult Jason. Apparently, Jason’s memory of who introduced him to the Mantra is all chopped liver. When you act like this online. You will be called a troll.

                    Read again what you wrote to Jason. No sooner than you say some approach is ineffective. Rabbits show up and explain to you why they are here and how they got here. Then you jump on them. How can that be about my ego?

                    Again, No one here said you were Linux.

                    If I had an ego half as big as you imply. I would have never made myself into an anonymous rabbit to help Bob. Furthermore, I sure as hell would not have waited a year +++ with a podcast out and blazing to get my own website. For about a year, anyone that wanted to listen to FTWR had to come HERE. But Bob happens to be smarter than me. So here we are.
                    And one of the keys for the success was the allegory and the anonymous model. I was only concentrating creatively on getting the message out. There was no other incentive in the deal.

                    I have a track record of getting things done. That may rub some rabbits the wrong way for whatever reason. So be it. I am not the one sitting around dictating: “Thou shall have no other Rabbits before me”. Anyone that does anything creative with this message at all …..gets plenty of attention. Just ask Kyle Hunt and Laura from the White Man March. Oh and I will help you out anyway I can……..even if your feet stink and you don’t love Jesus.

                • #37 by SwampRabbit on 04/04/2014 - 3:28 am

                  FWIW, Horus, I’ve enjoyed your podcasts, animations, and frequent interviews that I’ve heard and don’t think we could ask for more from any one person. It seems to me that you are all over the place and I’ve never heard of this person who is questioning your methods. Just the voice-overs that I’ve heard in Johnny White Rabbit songs are worth the price of admission with regard to introducing uninitiated White folk to the consistent message.

            • #38 by Henry Davenport on 04/04/2014 - 1:05 am

              “But this White Rabbit does not have any grand ideas for him ……at the moment. I may in the future.”

              Please let your mind dwell on it, Horus! 🙂

              You may have already helped me with what you’ve written here. I think I do a pretty good job of making the Stalwarts attractive to those who are already in it, but that’s because their being Stalwarts makes me happy, so I send them happy reminders each month on the FIRST. And I’m happy when I put on my ceremonial uniform and formally induct them when they sign up.

              So you’ve given me the thought that maybe I should make my SF signature about the Stalwarts attractive in the same way I hope I’ve made the “you’re-already-a-Stalwart” items. (Nuts, I worked so hard to get that signature unattractive. It’s almost perfectly unattractive now, and I hate to give it up).

              • #39 by Horus on 04/04/2014 - 10:32 am


                We have to convince the young ones and the seditious minded that signing the petitions is fighting the current system. Have to entice them some how. And it will not be anything about the actual signing of the petition. But something much larger that that the act signifies. Have to entice them by having them focus on something bigger. The good news is our message is large enough to pull that off. Just need the right tactic.

  5. #40 by Bob on 04/02/2014 - 12:09 pm

    ” People don’t like being controlled and told what to do.”
    Say, Al, have you been out of doors lately?

  6. #41 by Antiracists RAntiWhite on 04/02/2014 - 12:39 pm

    Asians have the have water torture.
    Whites have the Mantra.
    An irritation repeated over and over again has the same results–it drives the enemy off their rockers.

  7. #42 by Jason on 04/02/2014 - 7:58 pm

    I don’t have a problem with someone making money and pushing Mantra memes at the same time. That isn’t hijacking to me. If someone wants to sell donuts with “Anti-racist is a code word for Anti-White” written on them, go for it!

    Hijacking is taking the MESSAGE of the Mantra and changing it it up to serve some other end that conflicts with the MESSAGE of the Mantra.

    • #43 by Horus on 04/03/2014 - 10:27 pm


      Yes. And unfortunately no one is getting rich off the Mantra. We are doing well to support our websites expenses. In fact, if you guys did not know, the SPLC accused Bob of using to support/fund this very website just recently. Funniest thing I have read in a long time. Apparently they wrote a letter to Amazon and called about it.

  8. #44 by POLARBEAR87j on 04/02/2014 - 8:57 pm

    Diversity is “our” strength.

    Q: Why is this information produced?

    A: So the people who repeat it can stay in power.

  9. #45 by Bob on 04/03/2014 - 11:54 am

    I have said repeatedly that some of us will learn how to raise money and make a living in our cause without hijacking the message.
    Horus has done this perfectly.
    We are here to fight a war, not preserve some kind of virginity.

  10. #46 by Asgardian on 04/03/2014 - 11:59 am

    Hedad, what is it that you want/hope to achieve?

  11. #47 by WmWhite on 04/03/2014 - 1:51 pm

    “Zealots” are always an unthinking hindrance to any cause they brutishly attach themselves too; no matter what religion or form they take.

  12. #48 by Asgardian on 04/03/2014 - 5:52 pm

    Man…the tone of Herdads comments sound oh so familiar.

    • #49 by Henry Davenport on 04/04/2014 - 1:14 am

      Lol! Ain’t that the truth!

      A fine and exceptional talent, lost in the sea of obsession.

      Linux, you should do what you’re good at, which is spreading Mantra. You’re probably a genius at that, but you’re no genius at what you’ve been trying to do for some months now.

      • #50 by Henry Davenport on 04/04/2014 - 12:22 pm

        I’ve been very reliably informed that HerDad is NOT LL.

        HerDad, I apologize. Your style (except when you outright stated that you were not LL, which I’d never seen any of LL’s usernames ever do) seemed so exactly like LL’s that I foolishly jumped to that conclusion.

        I’m very sorry. I think that honest criticism of each other is important and desirable.

        • #51 by Horus on 04/04/2014 - 2:06 pm

          You are correct…as stated…it is not LL. But don’t feel sorry. I have never seen “Honest” criticism on this blog come from an anonymous unknown username. And HD ….neither have you.
          So you did the logical thing.

          If this person had the spirit of their conviction. They would be using their known username.

  13. #52 by Al Parker on 04/03/2014 - 9:32 pm

    i find it bizarre that people want to stay poor when there is a war to fight. The media makes tons of money being anti-white at the same time, why shouldn’t being pro-white make lots of money as well (eventually)?

    As Bob said, even Communists, ostensibly rejecting capitalism, had to marry into money to help them gain power.

    I think all pro-whites have a responsibility to become as wealthy as possible, to the extent that it adds to one’s power and influence, while being absolutely uncompromising.

    I also think David Duke would have done much better had he not taken a vow of poverty, and instead gone into a side business to fund his work (consider the small amount on his tax return that he went to prison over×970/documents/davidduke4.gif ). Even if he can subsist solely off his donations, this obviously isn’t something to brag about.

    • #53 by Dennis K on 04/04/2014 - 5:26 am

      Al, the media is still losing. Despite their expense. I believe runs at a loss, but people fund it because they believe their message. Anti-racism makes money by being a parasite. There is no product, only extortion. What white person pays to destroy their race, willingly?

      Think about it. White people move away from diversity, and pay higher house prices for it. White people do not pay to move towards the diversity they say they love. White people might visit an ethnic restaurant, but they don’t want to move there. I know white people who pay for private school, so their children don’t have to go to the diverse public schools. Many, many white people still make noises about liking diversity, while they find reasons not to live in the thick of it (and pay more to not live in the thick of it).

      Many white people already implicitely pay for whiteness, so there is a ‘revealed preference’ for white societies, which is already marketable. Perhaps one day, we’ll be able to utilise this, or get more money for the mantra when people realise that investing in our message means a lower price to pay for ‘whiteness’ in the future. Who knows, but this is later on. Fighting white genocide probably will find many backers, once they realise this game is REAL, but we have to make it real first, and that is by moving White Genocide away from just intellectual discussion and mental masturbation, to a real charge, to something of consequence.

    • #54 by Secret Squirrel on 04/04/2014 - 6:29 am

      Its not about individuals getting rich, its about creating a self sustaining White Genocide INDUSTRY, that tracks down and punishes rich anti-Whites. See Bob’s articles on Money Punishments.

      If someone gets filthy rich turning anti-White billionaires, into anti-White millionaires, good luck to ’em. 😉

  14. #55 by Jason on 04/04/2014 - 7:48 am

    To get rid of treason, get rid of traitors. Best way to do that is expose them as traitors. Once people are named as traitors, they have a hard time wiggling out of it.

    Notice the far Left goes ape over any type of “McCarthyism”. You’d think they wouldn’t be afraid anymore, but they still fear naming traitors. It must work.

    You don’t tolerate traitors. Any group that does has signed it’s own death warrant.

  15. #56 by Henry Davenport on 04/04/2014 - 12:24 pm

    HerDad is NOT LL. I jumped to a false conclusion. Please see my comment above:

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