HD has done a lot of thinking about why our pro-white leaders refuse to use “Bob Whitaker’s Mantra.”
He has also not merely PROPOSED, but WRITTEN, a complete, coherent article.
Any editor will explain to you that there is a world of difference between a proposal and an actual DRAFT.
HD says:
Old school pro-Whites who proselytize at a personal level believe that what they are doing works because they have the gratifying personal experience of bringing maybe one or two new Whites each year to a pro-White point of view.
It doesn’t occur to them that that hardly constitutes a mass campaign that opens up the public arena to discussion of White Genocide.
Dr. Duke’s work I assume brings a lot more than one or two Whites a year to a pro-white point of view, but his approach also turns many Whites away.
And how useful is a “pro-White” point of view anyway if it isn’t centered on White Genocide? We already have muddled pro-whites and even pro-white leaders (I’m thinking of a certain unforgettable letter written in reply to the ADL) calling for equal “White rights” in a multicultural society.
Dr. Duke has picked almost the very hardest issue as the one he will hammer, the issue that gets himself and the rest of us viewed as naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews, and then he tries to make his issue palatable by presenting the preservation of the White race as part of a kumbaya concern that all races be preserved.
We hammer the fact that all races other than Whites are being preserved, and it’s only the White race that’s being targeted for genocide. Our appeal is to Whites’ natural human desire for self-preservation, not to an ersatz sentiment of universality fastened upon us by anti-whites.
Dr. Duke as a propagandist may not be part of the solution. Putting front and center the issue he’s chosen to focus on for his entire career may create more of a roadblock than a road forward, and may be keeping the whole White cause, to the extent that that cause has any activism behind it at all yet, barking up the wrong tree.
Certainly all the information that’s now available on Dr. Duke’s issue has some important role to play, I would think, since it is in fact so important in what’s happening to us, but I think ideally all our Big Names like Dr. Duke would set that issue to the side for now and hammer Mantra and White Genocide.
Ain’t going to happen of course, except maybe slowly as the Big Names hopefully see the usefulness of it.
#1 by shari on 06/05/2014 - 12:58 pm
The problem, as I see it, is that younger generations don’t have time for SLOWLY. They are the ones slated to be minorities everywhere. Hated minorities at that.
#2 by Asgardian on 06/05/2014 - 10:39 pm
Thats a GOOD thing….when diversity begins to negatively effect their life they wont be singing the hymn of diversity on the altar of white genocide.
You gotta understand ALOT of these little brats running around screamin racist nazi @ any1 who questions diversity are very very spoiled. They will not and I repeat will NOT give up their amenities.
AntiWhites create ProWhites…we didnt fall outta the sky.
#3 by Secret Squirrel on 06/05/2014 - 2:47 pm
“Dr. Duke has picked almost the very hardest issue as the one he will hammer, the issue that gets himself and the rest of us viewed as naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews, and then he tries to make his issue palatable by presenting the preservation of the White race as part of a kumbaya concern that all races be preserved.”
A rainbow coalition against Jews, doesn’t require Whites, nor Pro Whites. It can be just as brown and anti-White as you like.
This is why I would like to see Stormfront split into a ProWhiteFront, a JewsFront and a FarRightFront. Where discussion is confined to the title of the website.
Only one of these websites would be White as snow. Guess which one.
#4 by Joe Bug on 06/05/2014 - 4:15 pm
Every time I hear Duke call anti-Whites as “racist” I face palm. He just doesn’t get it.
#5 by Jason on 06/05/2014 - 11:33 pm
Old school pro-Whites who proselytize at a personal level believe that what they are doing works because they have the gratifying personal experience of bringing maybe one or two new Whites each year to a pro-White point of view
Burn that into your brain. This is not a project for personal kicks (although it can be fun!). We are way too quick to gush at the latest personality or some news event.
Train yourself to see that MAKING waves is real power, not surfing them.
#6 by Yankee Rebel on 06/06/2014 - 5:16 am
Like SS said:
“A rainbow coalition against Jews, doesn’t require Whites, nor Pro Whites. It can be just as brown and anti-White as you like.”
That is so true and Dr. Duke is not the only person with a website that is promoting a rainbow coalition against Jews. I think the rainbow coalition would not stop at chasing down the Jew only, but would end up chasing down the last White Person period.
#7 by Fellow Aussie on 06/06/2014 - 7:09 am
Maybe we should lay off D D because he is fighting on a different front, and in a complimentary manner.
He never criticizes any other pro-white group apart from promoting the idea of not falling into the Hollywood pro-white stereotype trap.
Non-Whites and academics will continue to learn from David while activists will embrace Buggs.
Its a perfect situation. In time he will get up and say,
Diversity in all and Only White countries Only gets rid of white people. Diversity is a code word for White-Genocide.
#8 by Simmons on 06/06/2014 - 1:07 pm
I only have a question, can people like David Duke and Nigel Farage save the propaganda effect of the word “racist?” I know Duke’s gone rainbow anti-jew and he is trying out that line, good luck to him.
But Nigel Farage has been in the media along with that black anti-white Trevor Phillips bemoaning the fact that “racist” is losing its effect on whites. So maybe some of our beloved Limey BUGsers can answer this.
#9 by Yankee Rebel on 06/06/2014 - 7:47 pm
We need people who steer us in the direction of what really works instead of wasting energy on getting themselves rich or famous. We lost WW2 and most of the modern wars in the last 2 centuries to the anti-Whites. It is high time we stop putting people on pedestals because they say the right words that sound good, but do not amount to anything in the real world. Action and results speak louder than words.
#10 by Henry Davenport on 06/06/2014 - 10:53 pm
I just posted this at SF:
Another thought: Since swastikas are banned on SF, why are cartoon caricatures of the most visually offensive sort, of Jews and Negroes, still permitted?
I can’t imagine that they’re a draw to the great majority of potential pro-Whites who see them. They seem like 4th grade nastiness to me.
My guess is that they’re embarrassing to many more members here than just myself.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1014861-52/#post12150144
I listened to Don’s show this morning (it’s usually very interesting lately, but one recent hour turned into just an anti-jew rant, to my ear), which compelled me to respond to Don’s reply to a caller who said that SF focused too exclusively on Jews:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1014861-51/#post12149707
I guess it will be interesting if Don replies.
I’m feeling guilty around you folk who swarm, because I try to relax a little by hanging out there, just a little, but then I get caught up.
#11 by TheSeeker OfTruth on 06/07/2014 - 1:28 pm
HD, are you trying to turn Stormfront into AmRen? By the way, not everyone can see the radio forum. I am told I do not have sufficient privileges to view it.
#12 by Henry Davenport on 06/07/2014 - 3:44 pm
Hi Seeker, I think I’m just trying to understand the milieu I find myself in since becoming pro-White. Something feels insane to me in the manner in which pro-whites carry on about jews. It’s too easy. Why does Abe Foxman arouse stronger feeling than Joe Biden (or does he?), when Foxman is an able warrior for his race, and Biden is a slimy, slithering, cowardly traitor? Why is it “name the Jew” instead of “name the traitor”?
Is “name the traitor” too close to home, because “name the Jew” too often means “name the jew but do nothing”?
Or, maybe it’s natural to feel stronger antipathy toward alien enemy warriors than toward one’s own traitors? And maybe pro-whites feel their own powerlessness in the face of Jewish power (what’s been done to Ernst Zundel and to David Irving comes to mind) and feel that our elites must have been just as helpless, which I think is true in a way…our elites were what they were (greedy individualists), and what they were didn’t equip them to resist.
Here’s my comment I tried to link to in the private forum on SF for anyone interested in all this thrashing about:
Re Pat’s call in the second hour:
When I was young I took several graduate history courses, but I had no mind for so much “messy” information, nor was I mature enough to understand the significance of what I was learning nor to retain much of it.
So Don, since you were a history major and have also been a seriously smart person from a young age, I think you likely have a considerably better understanding of history than I do.
But still.
I don’t think I’m misinformed that the White factory owners of the latter part of the 19th century worked their white workers as many hours a week as they could without killing them outright, and for a pittance too small for the workers to ever escape their miserable lot.
Were they driven to do that by Jews? I’ve assumed not, but I certainly don’t know for sure.
And black lung disease among U.S. miners…that’s always bothered me. I read a detailed article in the NY Times in the early 1960s that said the U.S. mining companies were held to a much lower standard of air venting in mines than the European countries required. (That DID stick in my mind because it was a shock to my young naiveté that supposed that the USA was best in everything).
Was it Jews that drove those mine companies to operate that way?
I think that problem was in existence before Jewish finance reached anything like the power it has today, and I’m assuming the mine owners weren’t jewish.
I remember reading several years ago a statement by a Wall Street old-timer, or maybe just a student of Wall Street, who said the brokerage houses and big legal outfits were more ethical in an earlier era.
I’m sure they were, but contrary to what you seemed to be stating to Pat, I still think our elites are not only a problem now that they have been corrupted from outside, but will be a problem even in the best of conditions…that’s my read on human nature.
My guess is that the real reason very few pro-whites give any serious attention to our own elites is a historical and psychological one: the Left has claimed that territory for its own, and for a pro-white to take an interest in it feels to the pro-white like he is becoming a lefty.
In its neglect of our elites and their behavior, Stormfront feels unbalanced to me (well, it would, since I was on the left for so long), and I imagine it does to many Whites who check out the site, or the radio program.
I also consider it dangerous. If the people adopting a pro-white point of view assume that once the outside corrupters are separated from us we will automatically have leaders who will cherish our interests, well then good luck on that happening when the time comes.
Just my worried thoughts.
#13 by Secret Squirrel on 06/07/2014 - 5:04 pm
“I also consider it dangerous. If the people adopting a pro-white point of view assume that once the outside corrupters are separated from us we will automatically have leaders who will cherish our interests, well then good luck on that happening when the time comes.”
Stormfront Whites don’t want to hear that Uppah Class Whites, don’t give a damn about them, as long as their nests are feathered. That’s too much reality to bear.
When Pro Whites take power, the next big fight will be getting OUR leaders to use money punishments, against the ‘Anti-White Industrial Complex’. To both dismantle it and ensure it cannot return.
The fact we would have to fight for it, instead of it being accepted as BASIC COMMON SENSE, proves that many don’t have what it takes, in the brain pan.
Industries have to be dismantled ya’ll. If you don’t take the money away, the people in that industry won’t move.
No conspiracies necessary. Its basic economics.
#14 by TheSeeker OfTruth on 06/07/2014 - 4:21 pm
HD, that is a well written, reasoned question. I wish I knew the answer as to why soo many “pro-Whites” insist on using ‘name the jew’ for some kind of fetishistic gratification. I, like you, HATE a traitor, but rather admire someone who sets out to complete a task and actually accomplishes it. Even if that someone is my enemy, after all I do no fault the fox that steals my chickens. I whip my child that left the gate open.
As far as mining goes it was the advent of technologies that brought a rise in incidents of black lung. In the old days when coal was taken out of the ground with a pick and shovel a negligible amount of dust was produced. But when the ‘continuous miner’ was introduced it pulverised the coal and created a TREMENDOUS amount of dust.
One of the things I found absolutely silly when I went underground was we were not allowed to smoke at all anywhere due to the methane gas. Yet I was cutting shit with torches and welding machinery back together on a regular basis.
#15 by WmWhite on 06/07/2014 - 8:51 am
Kudos to HD and all his efforts!
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There are two large Elephants in the room which detrimentally effect the (future and present) existence of white people:
+One is ‘White Genocide’ and everyone is trying their hardest to make it invisible.
+The other Elephant has been made INVISIBLE and off-limits to whites; it is the the self-chosen tribe (which cannot be named).
#16 by Yankee Rebel on 06/08/2014 - 5:54 am
WW, the 2nd elephant you speak of is much larger than the tribe that cannot be named. The 2nd elephant must include ALL Anti-Whites of every stripe.
#17 by WmWhite on 06/09/2014 - 11:44 am
Both colon and lung cancer will kill a fella, so in that general respect, it doesn’t matter the particular cell structure of the disease since the final outcome can be death.
But each type of cancer is biologically and genetically different from any other type of cancer. For example, skin cancer is biologically different from lung cancer and has different genetic traits.
And the treatments differ: You might take the drugs by mouth, in a shot or intravenously; just as chemotherapy differs –it could be Carboplatin and Irinotecan or Cisplatin and Etoposide in conjunction with radiation to specific areas.
However, the point is YES, I agree with you in principle. I basically follow the precepts laid down at BUGS by lumping (the tribe that can’t be named) with all other anti-whites but I am always keenly aware there is a biological and genetic difference. A difference I tentatively (ad interim) ignore for now but am not deluded into believing does not exist.
#18 by Henry Davenport on 06/09/2014 - 1:18 pm
I don’t think the BUGS approach is a challenge to any pro-white belief except the prevailing pro-white belief that (as Horus puts it) you can educate in the middle of psychological warfare.
#19 by TheSeeker OfTruth on 06/07/2014 - 4:24 pm
Why the hell is my last comment to HD awaiting moderation? Am I not trustworthy?
#20 by Secret Squirrel on 06/07/2014 - 5:10 pm
Sometimes the spam blocker doesn’t like a certain post, because of the frequency of certain words at certain times. To us it appears random. Its just a dumb computer program after all. You will have to wait for the system admin.
#21 by TheSeeker OfTruth on 06/07/2014 - 8:09 pm
Thank you Secret Squirrel for both your answer and the great point made above.