B. U. G. S.

@beefcake

Why do BUGSers need dating advise?

It`s not mantra.

@Davidjoop

It`s the anti-whites who are the sad little dweebs hiding from reality.

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Go for it, beefcake! Though I fail to see how anyone as taciturn as yourself could have ever had any success with the ladies…lol.

So is your preferred pick-up line the “old” Mantra, or the “new” Mantra?

ha ha…this is going to be fun, I’m sure!

This is a great idea IMO. Expanding pro-White media to other topics and subcultures is fantastic. Horus brings a pro-White message to the “alternative news and research” crowd, Beefcake brings a pro-White message to the “success with women” crowd. Both good for our cause. I would be happy with someone bringing a pro-White message to every subculture and hobby out there.

Coniglio, YOU just gave me a topic to cover.

It is NOT all about money.

I am 100% sure that Dr.Duke does NOT get women by lavishing them with expensive gifts.

As you will learn, spending a ton of money on women is approval seeking behavior of a Beta male. It is actually counter productive.

Money
Looks
Muscles
Big Dong
Ethics
Opinions
Trades

Are NOT the primary things that define an Alpha Male.

That would be Leadership skill, which is a form of Social Skills, geared around an internal mindset of “impress me”. The approval giver, not the approval seeker.

That’s an alpha behavior to say what would impress you, for example. You should be proud.

Do you actually think the goal is to turn a bunch of Pro-Whites into PUAs, or guys trying to rack up large amounts of women as bedpost notches?

If its a subject we just do not ever discuss, but I’m just not seeing where the harm in it is, especially if it is not categorized directly as the more Mantra Specific tactics in the bootcamp are.

The intent would be for it to be separate, but related.

Our enemy has controlled ALL sides of this information for a long time too. Everything you have ever heard about in ANY Media on the subject of relationships, dating, anything is either filled with Lies, things that DONT work and harm relationships, OR information that while True from a functional sense to be used for the wrong purposes, as in the PUA community, racking up large numbers of women for bragging.

If I’ve actually done the work to sift through the crap, know what is and is not true, and what is and is not applicable to our situation, and it could help these guys who are actually ASKING about it, as well as tie it to White Genocide should I still avoid the subject?

Is ANYTHING covering true information about relationship dynamics between men and women, and teaching men how to have more options in women, in any way inherently have to be Anti-White?

SO far ALL ff the information has come from Anti-White sources, then is it any wonder why so many white men are frustrated and actually asking?

Or are you just saying that since I am tied to the more directly Mantra related instructional bootcamp, that it would be better to let somebody else handle it?

Beefcake,
Bob said there is a big problem with WN’s males being single, so it should be addressed urgently.

And don’t try to second guess what some might do with this information. It is just information. Bad people will do bad things with it and good will do good. You can’t control that part, so don’t worry about it.

Here’s a post from a successful ex-PUA.

It paints a cautionary tale.

“I got into this because I didn’t want to lose love again. That’s not bad, man, as motivations go. And that really was my motivation. Really.

But let me ask you this – are you so certain that you are strong enough to resist fucking girl after girl if you were able to do so with the same ease as it takes to open and close your hand?

Could you resist that?

Maybe.

But could you resist that if, day in and day out you had putting yourself through all the shit of hitting on chick after chick?

Could you? Are you certain?

That’s what happened to me, man. Once you hit that break point everything changes because the process of getting there changes you.

And look, again – I wish this weren’t true. I really do. I swear it.

Look, I don’t have all the answers, and I’m not advancing some kind of abstract argument about the right way to do things. All I know is that all I have felt and seen leads me to believe that terrible despair goes hand in hand with seduction, and this is not incidental, nor do I think it is avoidable.

Look, I know that it is very tempting to walk into this with high motives believing that you are doing something noble. I did.

I had the highest motives of anyone I know. I was also the most ‘moral’ of any ‘pick-up artist’ that I know. I would never sleep with a girl who had a boyfriend, ever. I would never lie, under any circumstances. I would never lead a girl on – even by omission. I would always make clear that I was not up for a relationship, and I tell you dude, it made me lethal. I was fucking sick, man. I was really, really good at this.

In the end, it didn’t matter. All these ‘high motives’ did were make me commit totally to a path which completely fucked me up. I’m dealing with this shit right now and it’s not fucking fun.”

Wow, see, this topic is fun already! Whew.

As long as Swarm doesn’t turn into this then i am cool with it……….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx7sl3jY8GA

PS-This video is uber-J word stuff. I have to admit i was bitten with NLP years ago and heard about the “speed seduction” BS because it was NLP based. Its hysterical to look back now, all of it is J word based. You couldn’t write it if you tried……………sorry if i am showing my J World alcoholic side