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  • #26512
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    “AN anti-white will throw out something like my example, “‘r-word?’ You mean retard?'”

    If an anti-white wants to set himself up to be called a retard, I think I could handle that. “Anti-white, are you saying you attack whites and ONLY whites with the R-word because you’re a ‘retard’? Don’t plead stupidity, anti-white. You attack whites and ONLY whites with the R-word because you’re an anti-white who supports white genocide.”

    When the terms “racism” and “racist” are being splashed all over a thread by anti-whites, I can’t believe any reader would find the term “the R-word” ambiguous, and I think my response in the form I just gave it weakens the R-word without at the same time strengthening it by using it!

    The phrase seems to have worked fine for me so far, though there have been occasions when I felt it better to write out “racism” or “racist” and did write the words out. (and guess who I couldn’t help thinking of when I did that).

    #26513
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    “the AW’s are happy to call you a Nazi.”

    You’re just calling me a Nazi because I am white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    Nobody is flooding Africa with MILLIONS of non-Africans and SCREAMING at every black who opposes their genocide; calling them a “Black Nazi.” They ONLY do these things in EVERY white country while they claim they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white

    anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

    #26515
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    @ Genseric: It’s possible you’re right of course, and that the R-word has weakened enough that it can be fought head on now. I don’t think the time has come yet. But maybe if I saw more of your work doing it your way, I’d be persuaded. From time to time, would you be willing to note a few examples here with links to the threads? If so, thanks.

    #26516
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    “calling them a “Black Nazi.”” LMAO! I sure like THAT!!

    #26519
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    The bugser who was chiefly responsible for it having been a general policy here for awhile to not write out the R-word explained in a post some while ago why that had been done…it was to block some kind of tailgating that had been occurring regularly. I forget the details.

    #26525
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    HD, it would be nice, since it would actually be EASIER to do, to provide a link to that mandate you keep referencing. Not that I doubt you. I just want to read the exchange and see who it was for my own reference.

    I do not DEBATE anti-whites anymore and my entire YT account was WIPED. So, that would be difficult to provide. But, you are a smart person. You should be able to envision what I am talking about. Hopefully. But let me give you an example anyway. Although, I am sure I have done this for you before:

    A.W. You sound a lot like a racist (You’re a racist prick).
    P.W. You’re just calling me a RACIST because I am white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    Nobody is flooding Africa with MILLIONS of non-Africans and SCREAMING at every black who opposes their genocide; calling them a “RACIST.” They ONLY do these things in EVERY white country while they claim they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white

    anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

    AGAIN, as I have told you before. I know you have heard me say this, but cadence is huge when it comes down to sound. Don’t you want to be around when we bring it down? Now, let me write it how I interpret your reply would be.

    A.W. You sound a lot like a racist (You’re a racist prick).
    P.W. You’re just calling me the R-WORD because I am white. Anti-r-word is a code word for anti-white.

    Nobody is flooding Africa with MILLIONS of non-Africans and SCREAMING at every black who opposes their genocide; calling them the “R-WORD.” They ONLY do these things in EVERY white country while they claim they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white

    Anti-r-word is a code word for anti-white.

    I did the bit with our tag line for dramatic effect. yuk yuk yuk…

    #26526
    SixGun
    Participant

    DG in reply to your post on Nazi, that is great but you are a Ninja BUGser.
    If you tailgate you may not be in control of the direction of flow. Great fun if you are nimble, great fun when the A-W reels off the same old rubbish, which you can deal with in your sleep, but not everyone is as fluent in Mantra thinking.

    Not so long ago I was using racist in mini Mantras and then was “told off.”
    I was unhappy with not being able to say racist as it sometimes made the conversation stilted and unnatural. I coined the phrase “hateful names” to cover Nazi, fascist, racist, bigot and so on.
    This is alright sometimes but I still want to use racist when the time is right, b/c it is the right word to use.

    HD and I had a discussion over his use of “R-word” – he says it defuses the word. I think it is like people who want to swear and say fucking hell but can only bring themselves to say flipping heck as somehow that is respectable. It doesn’t defuse the word, it is like you are afraid to say it. I think it actually draws attention to it. I have used “the R-word,” when I wanted to draw attention to it and make the sort of Charlie who did come out with racist look like a weasel.

    As I see it, you can use any word as long as you can use it properly. Racist is a weapon the anti-Whites use. Well to BUGsers the weapon doesn’t work. I have been called these names so many times I just laugh at the pathetic repetition. It is good to laugh at them.

    A poster on YT said she was fed up with being called racist. I replied with

    Racist is only a word.
    They call me racist.
    I say – what is racist?
    They don’t know half the time
    Only in your opinion.
    When did you last call a Black person racist?
    I believe you are only calling me racist b/c I’m White.
    You’re not anti-racist, you’re anti-White.

    Anti-racism is a code word for anti-White.

    It got a lots of thumbs up. I used the R word 5 times.
    If you can make fun of their words, then make fun of them. Your weapons don’t work any more. Look White people, you can stand up to these people.

    I think this is going to be an area where people disagree. If using “racist” is the best word to get my message over I think it should.

    #26527
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    “calling them a “Black Nazi.”” LMAO! I sure like THAT!!” – HD

    Let’s try and remember that decorum thing you guys keep preaching about. South African Boers and Afrikaners wouldn’t think that is too funny. It’s the real deal for them. That is HOW they are treated there. To me, that’s more offensive than the verbiage you all object to.

    Get it? Got it? good…

    #26529
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    Genseric, I don’t remember who the bugser was, or where he wrote the post. He put it up back when you and I were arguing about the issue before. The purpose of his post, as I understood it, was to explain to me that the policy had only been instituted to meet a particular problem, and wasn’t necessarily a policy for all time as I had assumed.

    #26531
    SixGun
    Participant

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/white-terminology-our-words-versus-their-words/page/2/#post-25455

    Roderick

    4. Never use your enemys terminology.
    More specifically don’t use the word “racist.”
    Hell, don’t even think the word “racist” unless you’re using it in the catchphrase;
    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

    HD just b/c DG and I agree racist has its place, has no bearing on whether this is or isn’t “policy.”

    #26538
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    HA! Even you took the bait six gun!

    The whole point of the exercise was to see if I can ‘peel off’ and AW from a counterproductive conversation and lure him to my home turf. I did it exactly the way you taught me.

    First I asked him a question to explain his thoughts. Then I lead him on. Then BANG!. Check and mate. He didn’t even bother replying after that. I’m sure he wanted to. Both of his initial replies came in within 30sec and he was SO eager to call the guy before me a Nazi.

    In the real world, I often find myself defending someone from an anti-White. Usually they make a comment involving a racial slur and an expletive. Usually the person who makes this comment is the dumbest in the group or they don’t care that some anti-White is going to drill them over it. Everyone else holds their tongue because they know it’s not worth the effort to speak up. So it falls to me to speak up or shut up.

    I know how to defend myself from personal attacks, I just didn’t know how to defend others. That’s why I wanted to learn how to interrupt a conversation like that, lead it towards what I want to talk about then nail them when they are in range. From my one internet test run, it worked like a charm. Anti-Whites are EAGER when they think they are winning. He answered my questions WITHOUT hesitation because he thought he had me. When the ripost came it left him dumbstruck.

    I can’t wait to do this in real life, the audience is going to love it!

    #26539
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    DG, I hear you, loud and clear. (At least I do now.) You had me confused about what you meant, even more so since you said that you explained this to me before and now others are following. You never spoke to me before. I almost never post on BUGS, only lurk and read so I remember the few posts I did make since the swarm started.

    Anyway, I got it now. Thankfully, I never use ‘the r-word’ or even ‘racist’ (unless it’s a talking point) when speaking to anti-Whites.

    #26544
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    LOL! Just got this gem from an Immigration robot that thinks it’s Moral:

    Joshua Allen · Top Commenter · Columbus, Ohio
    And yes you are clearly a Nazi, I just checked your profile. Pathetic.

    Where are the FEMA concentration camps when we need them?
    —————————-
    Daniel Genseric
    Spoken like a true, genocide-promoting, anti-white. I’m the “Nazi” and you want to put ME in a FEMA concentration camp? BWahahaha?! Do you always operate on half a brain cell or just today? anti-racist IS a code word for anti-white.

    #26548
    Jason
    Participant

    DG, you seem to think we talk about verbiage because we are Miss Manners. That has nothing to do with it. You think if I couldn’t push a button and make all our problems go away, I wouldn’t do it? You are being thickheaded about this point. If strutting around like a Rooster Nazi was the key to victory, one of those clowns from the past would have already won us victory.

    I’m also tired of the insinuation that you are some tough guy and the rest of us are just pussycats. You don’t know what we’ve done or will do. We just have COMMON SENSE and an understanding of what works in the arena in which we are fighting right now. Geezus.

    #26549
    Jason
    Participant

    And don’t ever tell me I can’t offer advice on someone’s video again.

    #26551
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    A long term consideration about the R-word…I’ve posted often,

    “The R-word tells the fundamental lie that racial feeling is a learned pathology rather than an innate biological trait that evolved to protect the survival of human groups.”

    So as long as that word has life, it’s a threat to our desire to have homelands as a basic human need.

    Whatever immediate profit we might draw from turning the word around in various ways may not be worth it in the long run. Let the word die from disuse.

    #26553
    Jason
    Participant

    I understand avoiding the use of the word “racism”, or not using it at all. But are you all suggesting that we literally type “the R word” in he place of “racism”, the way people will say “the N word”? Not using the term “racist” or “racism” makes sense, but literally typing or saying “the R word” sounds awkward and as if we are making a fetish of the word. Am I reading this correctly?

    #26554
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    A possible flaw in the argument I just made is that words can shift their meaning over time. If one wants to count on that.

    #26555
    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    @ Jason: Yes, that’s my idea, and is what I’ve been doing. I haven’t found it awkward, but possibly I’ve gotten used to it and it reads awkward to others. Here’s some I wrote just today:

    Anti-white, how come you aren’t repeating your own mantra lately: “R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word!”
    Is it because you like better,
    “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white”
    HarumphtyDumpty 4 hours ago

    Anti-white, it’s unnerving that you’re no longer screaming at me your own mantra: “R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word!”
    Do you anti-whites think you can carry out white genocide without constantly screaming at whites (and at whites ONLY) the R-word?
    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
    HarumphtyDumpty in reply to MrViciousBiter (Show the comment) 4 hours ago

    Don’t get caught yawning off on the job, anti-white. You’re doing a really half-assed job here today.
    How about a little “R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word! R-word!”
    Well try this instead, anti-white:
    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
    HarumphtyDumpty in reply to MrViciousBiter (Show the comment) 4 hours ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzowAgXCVWQ

    Lol, I had “R-word” on the brain from this thread. No response from biter except “yawn”.

    I feel totally unable to tell at this point how it reads. Usually I just do this after being called “racist”.

    What do you think? What do others think? I think I’ll continue doing it until I get some indication that it’s creating a bad impression on the target audience, but I’m not sure I’d ever know. So my mind is open. A little. (I’ll check back later)

    #26557
    Jason
    Participant

    HD, that is interesting, let me mull it over a bit. I could see it being used to mock the other side in situations.

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