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Feu denfer, I’ve been noticing this Anti-White tactic.I phrase my reply as
‘Which non-White populations do you INSIST be ‘mixed’ and ‘blended’ out of existance in their own countries,or are you ONLY Anti-White ?
The attempt to ‘mix’ and ‘blend’ ALL White countries out of existance is GENOCIDE
‘Anti-racism’ is a codeword for Anti-White ‘

or if they whine about ‘personal choice’ you could use something like this,

‘Barack Obama is mixed.He has a Black Kenyan father and a White mother,nobody INSISTS that Kenya,and ALL Black countries,be ‘mixed’ and ‘blended’ out of existance because of this.’Personal choice’ is ONLY used to JUSTFY the attempt to ‘mix’ ALL White countries out of existance.
It’s GENOCIDE
‘Anti-racism’ is a codeword for Anti-White

It doesn’t really matter what they say.Just accuse them of ‘trying to JUSTFY Genocide’ and roll back into the mantra.As long as you use GENOCIDE and Anti-racism is a codeword for Anti-White it doesn’t matter too much what else you say : )

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I think we are straying of message.
Japanese in Japan aren’t debating whether they should say ‘Japanese ethnic group’ as opposed to ‘Japanese’ to defend the Japan being a Japanese country
Blacks in Black countries aren’t debating ‘Black ethnic group’ as opposed to ‘Black’ to defend Black countries remaining Black.
We are not trying to ‘win’ Anti-Whites over,we are trying to push a ‘meme’ a ‘concept’ and give this ‘meme’ exposure on all spectrums of communication.
The meme is’ Every White country,and ONLY White countries are flooded with 3rd Worlders through immigration,intergration and ‘assimilation’.It’s GENOCIDE
and ‘Anti-racism’ is a codeword for Anti-White

We need to stop trying to convince them,and just keep firing the mantra.

I hope somebody deletes this whole thread before Bob reads it and kick our backsides.
I’m headed back to youtube to do some work.

@ Cleric Preston & dungeoneer

Hmm, I’m indifferent to the idea. We all know who White people are, but using “White ethnic groups” could create a bit of flak and give them some ammo for the “Who’s White?” argument.

Besides that, “White ethnic groups” is going to eat up a lot of characters, and in the case of YouTube, every word counts.

My apologies Cleric, I agree with what you’re saying – I meant Feu denfer & dungeoneer.

My apologies Cleric, I agree with what you’re saying – I meant Feu denfer & dungeoneer. I’m sticking with “Whites”; unless I see “White ethnic groups” work better.

I really think we are bickering too much as of late, the whole reason why we are getting the Mantra into the media is because we’re not fighting with each other – we’re fighting the perpetrators of this genocide.

If any of us have any theories, I suggest we test them out first and bring back some arguments they’ve been used in before debating their use, and then we can go from there.

Feu denfer,
Anytime a newcomer comes in and starts asking questions rabbits can get testy. Don’t let that deter you. A consistent message is similar to a good jingle. There are no perfect consistent messages or jingles. There are only messages and jingles that are considered optimal. Optimal is defined the fact that they work more times than not. We all tend to look for perfection. If you weren’t trying you would not be white and we would have a whole new set of race issues to deal with. You will never be able to find a perfect consistent message. The Mantra is just considered Optimal. There is no perfection to be found in these things. I discuss a lot of this stuff at the Stormfront Conference and when the MP3 comes out. You might enjoy listening to it. I did the conference speech radically different than the podcast. Not only was I talking to a different audience at the Stormfront Conference. Furthermore, we have found that most know very little about Consistent Messages or even what we are really doing with something like the Mantra.

But in general, I learned long ago to just use a consistent message AS IS. If it works, don’t fool with it. The Mantra is an interesting consistent message because it can be made your own after some practice. The Mantra is a closed system killer. Nothing More and Nothing Less.

In short, we tend to get into all into trying to perfect the Mantra in the beginning. And there is no perfect consistent message …..only optimal. The Mantra has never really been adjusted by anyone but Bob. There are professionals that have looked at it. But none have fooled with it at all. Why? It works…..if a 7 year old in Germany can use it not problem……and a 10 year old in the UK can use it no problem……not to mention a 20 year old in the USA …..and to top it off a 60 year old in Australia can use our stuff with no issues AS IS. Well, it is considered optimal. No point in fooling with it.

Regarding individualism. I was listening to the press conference for past recent event that Taylor, Edwards, and Richard Spencer were taking part in. An anti-White stood up and insisted that “America is an individualistic nation.” One of the guys I mentioned refuted by saying that “America was a blood and soil nation just like other nations.” A better response would have been to point out that ONLY WHITES are expected to act as individuals, while everyone else is free (and encouraged) to pursue their own ethnic and racial interests. Overall these guys did a great job at the press conference (I’m not saying I could do better), but they did miss this one opportunity.

“Thanks Horus, good points on consistency and perfection.

I never meant to change the mantra itself though, it was more a tactic for the situations where the anti whites try to bug it down to the individual level. I should have been more precise on that.”

The idea is always and only argue within the confines of the Mantra. This is always a little difficult at first. But once we fully understand that the antiwhite arguments apply only to white countries and all white countries. This makes it all very straightforward. Our job is simply to point out this contradiction over and over again. I went into this at the Stormfront Conference. We always think we have to be so precise and perfect and have all the perfect arguments etc. Well our enemy lost every single debate on every college campus. This is a fact. And the reason they have power has nothing to do with intelligence. They imposed terminology. You obviously understand this. But you don’t understand that we do not have to be so precise with the words you are concerned about. Everything necessary is in the Mantra already. Just make it your own if u’d like. So basically what I am telling you is that your concern is unwarranted. We can lose every debate and impose terminology and have all the power. It does not matter IF you don’t have it all figured out for every response of the Antiwhites……as long as you impose terminology. We do not have to be that anal over terms and phrases like the ones that you were or are concerned about. “White ethnic group” IS a racial GROUP identity, “Whites” is not something you have to worry about. Don’t over think things. Our enemy took power just by yelling terms like Racist! and AntiSemite…..and Nazi! …..and the educational system that white rabbits were attending at the time were far better than the ones we have now. Think about that. And understand that for terms like Nazi…..you have to be anal…..and that is why we have naziwhowantstokill6millionjews. But also understand that we do not have to be so anal as to worry about the words and phrases like “whites” and “white ethnic groups” .

Dick Whitman-Individualism is a BIG problem. Listen to William Pierce discuss it…………..some nice ammo in this piece. Make some insults out of this to weave into your mantra talking points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO3czqDiaA4