Even White Supremacists are using our terms these days
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10/13/2013 at 6:11 pm #53151Cleric_PrestonParticipant
@ Asgardian
You posted
“….im SURE some of have different views on the economy, abortion and gun control…”Legislated victimhood has been pushed for decades by these safety control freaks, at the end of the day they’d rather see a woman raped then a rapist shot. 😉
I’m already prepping to fight my next ‘noble cause’ 🙂
I kind of think that everything else will work itself out once the Anti-Whites are defeated.
10/13/2013 at 6:16 pm #53152AnonymousInactiveI agree….but none of that matters till they are stopped.
I also agree with your remark on rapist.
10/13/2013 at 6:41 pm #53153ElectricParticipantThis would be a good place to swarm… 380 White Russians detained after rioting in result of White genocide.
http://rt.com/news/moscow-nationalists-killing-violence-142/
10/13/2013 at 6:53 pm #53154Secret SquirrelParticipantJimmy Marr says
“If a group is getting out a variation of the message you want, but you don’t like the look of the group, you can still ally yourself with it and thereby make a contribution toward improving its public image.”My suggestion: As a White Genocide activist, think of yourself as a party crasher.
10/13/2013 at 7:05 pm #53155Mimmy JarrParticipantOh gawd, I hope those Russians weren’t using our message.
Imagine what an albatross that would be around our necks.
They’re all probably working for the SPLC. Don’t ya think?
10/13/2013 at 7:10 pm #53156JasonParticipantWell the Russian versions are way higher caliber people. People actually think of them as pro-Russian inside Russia. How many Americans think of skinheads as pro-American? Hell, how many really think of them as pro-White?
When a White woman’s car breaks down at night, does she hope for a skinhead to come along and help her? LOL.
10/13/2013 at 7:16 pm #53142AnonymousInactiveSome Thoughts From An Inebriated Weirwood (Free Folk & Northerners should stop giving liquor to trees…):
I share the concerns of Jason & others. I think it is poor strategy (or at least not the best strategy) to associate our memes with trigger-words and trigger-symbols; that is, words and symbols that are backed with bazillions of social engineering dollars to produce a predictable, proven result in the passive victim).
My first activity on this site took place 13 or so months ago, commenting on a blog wherein, I believe, it was noted that Duke and others at the SF Conference refused to use the Mantra. I quoted A Famous Person, who said: “And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine bursts the wineskins, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins.”
I then likened BUGS to New Wine, that would & should not go into the old wineskins (Dr. Duke, SF, swastikas, etc.). I still generally agree with that approach, insofar as WE are concerned… but I suppose I don’t get as worried as some when people outside of our propaganda team put our new wine into old wineskins.
If we were going to get worried and demoralized because our message has been and/or is associated with doubleplusungood thoughts & crimethink, then we should have given up already. Didn’t Horus say that Breivik e-mailed a copy of his Manifesto to FTWR’s e-mail address? Didn’t Breivik complain multiple times about the genocide of the European/Norwegian people? Varg Vikernes has a certain reputation amongst the “mainstream” in Europe, and it isn’t good. He is seen as a murderingnaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. Yet he was dropping genocide, in reference to Europa and her people, multiple times per week on http://www.thuleanperspective.com, for the longest time.
Point being, I don’t know if, given the presumptions of this thread, genocide could take “more damage” in Europe than it already has, given the associations to Breivik & Varg.
Yet, that doesn’t seem to register and, prior to this recent *blip* with Cobb, Jimmy, etc., this wasn’t even an issue with people (if people had even made those connections).
Likewise, we already have certain associations that are along the same lines of things that people are worrying about in this thread. David Duke has said the Mantra. FTWR is advertised on Stormfront. Don Black has said the Mantra. We have a designated section on Stormfront called “Swarmfront”. Likewise, the Eyes Forward avatar, debatably (wink, wink) has Schutzstaffel for pupils.
I would venture to say that, in the “mind” of the public, “David Duke” and “Stormfront” trigger much the same reactions as a swastika. Yet, we didn’t have an 11-page thread fretting over how to distance ourselves from Duke, SF, etc.
<tangent> To hop rails for a moment and take a different track: I would imagine that the recent furor over Jimmy’s activism, and the fervent enthusiasm (and concomitant worry) it has caused, is rooted in The Drama (TM) of a few months ago. BUGS took a hit, and many posters quit posting. Why deny this? For someone to join the site and post an image (Celtic Cross or not) that got 750,000 views on reddit (hell, my video only has 178,339 and ARH has 216,089 [at the time of this post])… for someone to get 3/4ths of a MILLION views on reddit, in the course of a day or so, was, self-evidently, a definite shot in the arm.
I could go on, but that’s the long and short of it. In light of what BUGS went through, for a new member (of BUGS, at least) to join up and put on such a fireworks display, necessarily got people excited. Is what it is.
But I don’t see how Craig Cobb, or the Celtic Cross, or even the NSM, would do more damage than associations with David Duke, Stormfront, Breivik, and Varg already has.
Now, that’s not to say that we should EMBRACE those things, insofar as our focus, honed team is concerned… but neither, I think, should we shirk & sulk & shrink from such things. It is what it is. Tally ho & sally forth!
Two Random Thoughts:
1) I am not speaking to Jimmy (who knows I appreciate his cojones & activism)… but in general: We should focus more on “Stop White Genocice”, “End White Genocide”, “Fight White Genocide”, “Stop White Genocide Worldwide”, “Stop Eurocide”, etc., than “‘Anti-racist’ is a codeword for Anti-White.” Just my opinion. It seems like ARIACWFAW is the easy way out… and doesn’t cut as straight to the quick as the genocide charge.
White Genocide is the core of what BUGS is about. Everything else just functions as a support structure. If we are going to go broke for anything, go broke on genocide.
2) To soothe your souls, let us hope that “genocide of European peoples” and “White Genocide” take the same route as “anti-White”.
That is, anti-White has been used on Stormfront, VNN, and elsewhere, for a long time.
Doubt it? Download some Goyfires from 2005-2007. LOL. Alex Linder was dropping Anti-White & “Genocide” like skittles, multiple times per podcast. Yet, the wholesale use of “anti-White” on Goyfire, as well as on various pro-White forums, didn’t stop the Lamestream Media from picking it up.
Right? When someone uses “anti-White” now, do they feel they are ontologically beholden to Dr. Duke & Alex Linder? Of course not. It penetrated the mainstream as just another phrase.
We can only hope White Genocide does the same (and clearly, it has precedent). It is manifestly more toxic; ergo, if it does eventually penetrate the mainstream, it will probably take longer.
But, it is what it is.
In Conclusion:
BUGS’ Strategy should remain the same: Avoid swastikas, NSM, etc., when possible. However, if the NSM, Craig Cobb, etc., use “genocide” or ARIACWFAW, don’t fret and piss your pants. It is what it is. You really can’t control the message (given the size of our team). Imagine what it will be like when some Talking Head hijacks it, takes it out of context, and makes it completely fucking lame… just keep pushing forward.
As other BUGSters have said: RAID!
10/13/2013 at 7:25 pm #53160AnonymousInactiveJason…a white female would be more comfortable with a white male than a non white cop this is fact.
I have seen examples of this when a white female requests “another officer” to the job.
Unless the white male is running towards her car with the nsm flag unfurled sticking out of his back lol I dont think she would mind if her tire was flat if he had a shaved head leather jacket jeans and boots.
10/13/2013 at 7:30 pm #53161Mimmy JarrParticipantCome on, Jase, lighten up a little. This is a l-o-n-g war we’re in.
Baby step, make a banner. Baby step, meet some Nazis. Baby step, fly the banner.
If you can’t bring yourself to think of it as a Männerbünde, think of it as a Bännermünde.
It’s scary at first. Think of it as learning to sail learning to sail
10/13/2013 at 7:40 pm #53162JasonParticipantJimmy, it isn’t scary. I have never seen a bigger bunch of kittens than Neo Nazis.
10/13/2013 at 7:44 pm #53164AnonymousInactiveOk…who here among us is willing to go hang a white genocide banner up tomorrow and stay there?
10/13/2013 at 7:56 pm #53165JasonParticipantIs there were everything has to be derailed so we can show proper respect for somebody’s “balls”? LOL
10/13/2013 at 8:11 pm #53168Mimmy JarrParticipant@Johnny Mantraseed:
I read that part of your comment that wasn’t addressed to me, and I want to give a little feedback for what it might be worth.
I’ve stood out with both White geNOcide signs and ARIACWFAW. I can’t tell you which is more “effective”, whatever the heck that might mean, or however we might measure it, but I can tell you this: ARIACWAFAW tears people’s minds up worse than “Stop White geNOcide”. In my experience, if audience reaction is any measure ARIACWAFAW is NOT the easy way out.
I realize, of course, that my sample size may not be large enough to make it statistically significant, so consider it anecdotal evidence, but that is what I have found.
10/13/2013 at 8:16 pm #53170Mimmy JarrParticipantOk…who here among us is willing to go hang a white genocide banner up tomorrow and stay there?
The more I do this, the less I think it matters whether we stay with the banner, or not.
And no, I can’t do one tomorrow. They take quite a bit of time to make, and my area has been pretty well saturated, so I would need to travel.
10/13/2013 at 8:20 pm #53172Mimmy JarrParticipantBut as far as the rest of you guys are concerned, I think you definitely should all put up banners tomorrow.
In fact, I’ll go as far as to say, anyone who doesn’t put up a banner tomorrow is a Nazi.
Now, get moving. Boohaha!
10/13/2013 at 8:33 pm #53174JPOutlookParticipantSo, I wonder if anyone from B.U.G.S. is planning on going out with their Nazi friend on Halloween. And, then when the doorbell is rung the Nazi, in costume of course, will give a salute while you try to read the Mantra and get tricks or treats… L.O.L.!
J.P.O.
10/13/2013 at 8:48 pm #53177AnonymousInactiveCobb spoke nothing of nazis..no regalia in the interview….all ppl can take from it js white genocide.
Guys its just a vessel.
10/13/2013 at 8:54 pm #53178Mimmy JarrParticipantThere’s no need for special costumes or salutes. When dressing, Hitler always inserted his right leg into his trousers before his left leg, so without even thinking about it, many of you habitually perform a daily confirmation of your Nazihood.
Did you honestly think I wore a kilt because I was Scottish?
I ain’t takin’ no chances.
10/13/2013 at 9:20 pm #53183Mimmy JarrParticipant[URL=http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/mimmyjarr/media/f001_zps00bbdd6d.gif.html][IMG]http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j477/mimmyjarr/f001_zps00bbdd6d.gif[/IMG][/URL]
10/13/2013 at 9:35 pm #53185mandelaParticipantcould you make that link a bit clearer please Mimmy, I am having trouble with it
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