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  • #10781
    meawhiterabbit
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    Guys this is not a massive winge and i hope this can develop into a discussion to help us move forward. I originally started to type this over in SF in response to the Seminar thread over there but i decided to bring it here in case Bugs posters though i was talking behind their backs. If you haven’t read that thread please read it and particularly the poster Calvert thoughts. He is an experienced WN and he is speaking a lot of truth. I think we should seriously consider the effectiveness of what we are doing. The message is great! The energy levels are high! The Mantra works! However lets consider are we honestly being as effective as we could??!

    My thoughts……..

    There needs to be a little more organization perhaps at “the top.” and if this means we make a more hierarchical model then so be it. When i first came here posters would say the Swarm is “fluid” and this that and the other but sorry i wasn’t convinced then and i still am not convinced now that this is the way to go. I’ve been on Bugs for about 4 or 5 months and the main problem is organization. To me the most obvious approach on line is to target a couple of highly popular youtube videos that have a constant stream of traffic and a large number of ever increasing views. My idea was we could break into regional groups and “swarm” these targets with our message at designated times so we more or less took over that channel for long periods of time. I figured that would be a lot more effective than the fairly random erratic approach that is currently the norm. For whatever reasons the idea failed. No one seemed to want to commit while others preferred to work solo. Having worked solo for a few months and participated with perhaps 1 or 2 other Bugs posters concurrently every now and then i am not convinced of the effectiveness of this approach. It IS effective momentarily, especially on a personal level when debating with the anti-white but the moment you turn off your computer-bang go those comments into the ether. Obviously if we thumb comment it can stick to the first page but on busy popular videos then unless EVERY Bugs poster gets there and thumbs it the its gone. 10 or 12 thumbs will not do the trick in most instances.

    A lot of Bugs guys will also Swam small videos with a handful of views and invest time in debating one crazy anti-white for hours on end. This, in my opinion is a complete waste of time. I also notice a lot of posters linking little Blogs and while the content is often very relevant i find it hard to believe any of these blogs have the heavy traffic we need.

    What can we do???? Ha that’s the tricky part!! Ideas…..

    1. Target not so relevant but very popular youtube videos. I did try and push this approach montha ago. Way back we targeted some videos of current music number 1s and sports clips. The London riots were also a good target. Basically anything with lots of views and steady traffic. The problem here is we have to deal with the inane flow of “lolz” and “i like dis video so much” so mass swarms are required. Targets meed to be selected carefully.

    2. Try and create a video that can get us a ready made large audience. I am still talking with HeyRuka to make a Mantra video.

    3. I think phoning local and national talk radio stations and saying the Mantra is excellent.

    4. A TV spot??! Does anyone have the balls to go on public TV? Bob himself? Horus? Calvert seems to think getting a TV spot on the news is easier than we think. It just requires a little bit of cunning. Ideas?!

    5. Sock puppet anti-white accounts. Create our own anti-white threads on popular forums so we can swam them ourselves. The idea being that the sock puppets are SO antiwhite they turn any fence sitting lemmings into pro-whites! We target POPULAR forums. A list would help. Ideas?

    Cheers people. Lets get creative.

    #10793
    Horus
    Participant

    “4. A TV spot??! Does anyone have the balls to go on public TV? Bob himself? Horus? Calvert seems to think getting a TV spot on the news is easier than we think. It just requires a little bit of cunning. Ideas?!”

    Bob has done the mantra on fox news. They would not air it. That is the point we started building the Swarm. Even of late US News would not print the Derek Black interview with the Mantra in it. And the Breivik episode has gotten media attention to the white rabbit inbox. However, we have not been able to get anything past the editors…..we are still working on it. And we will keep raising the volume by increasing our numbers and laying media landmines all around till something breaks. I will talk about media “landmines” in a podcast. Even in places like Iceland we had good media exposure. That may have been enough for selling white power music in Iceland. But we ain’t exactly selling music. We are threading memes into a population. We are in the process of moving a consistent message and our terminology into the mainstream of the Western World. And the media exposure we need has to have a base like BUGS Swarm. We need a steady drip from media outlets identical to the one the Political Cesspool has been giving to Bob over the last year or so. The appropriate phrase to what we are doing is “weaving velvet”. Weaving requires constant and methodical activity. Just like everyone sees from the Swarm.

    We kinda have a big agenda. You know like bringing down the Berlin Wall was a big agenda. The guys behind us have done it before. BUGs Swarm needs to be a little larger to do what we want to do with it. 300 is a number we are shooting for right this minute for the Swarm online. To most rabbits this number would sound tiny…..that is simply because they do not understand how a consistent message works or how it worked in bringing down the Berlin Wall.

    Bob has more than just a little media experience. He ran the press conferences for groups that were opposed to cross town busing (busing kids across town to force integration). He is still known in the South Side of Chicago for that. And there are those that still know his name among the Southies in Boston. He was employed by Presidential Administrations and in Congress. He was also employed by a famous alphabet agency. He has been called a lot of things. But never a media illiterate. And here is the point. Someone asked me to put the core group on message. And it has nothing to do with Bob being stupid or Stormfront audiences being dumb asses. With a consistent message it’s the same ole tune but the lyrics are always different. And every consistent message has different lyrics, different technology etc. This stuff never works the same way twice. Even when it comes to getting media exposure.

    We have the template of bringing down the Berlin Wall. But that is just a template. That message went “top down” with Ronnie Reagan’s:”Gorbachev bring down that wall!”. The thing was over with and no one even knew what happened. Many our betting money that ours goes the same way. I am not so sure yet. But there was a huge foundation laid to bring about that one liner moment for the Berlin Wall and Soviet Union. The key technological invention that allowed it? The Fax Machine. Of course, our key technology is the internet. The major tactic? The broken record strategy.

    Calvert has a great deal of experience in getting publicity for his white power music label. What we are dealing with is something slightly different. We need steady drips. And media outlets that will allow that. Some of the rules would apply and some would not. He does have some potentially good ideas. They could work. Sure wouldn’t hurt to try some of them. Usually, I am more impressed when good ideas are offered by people who are trying things out on message. In every case, this has been the essential ingredient for success. Because as soon as someone starts using a consistent message like ours. They always end up looking back at what there trying to do. Then they realize a few things and make some tweaks. Bob and Company has seen this type of attitude for a half century in Washington. Everybody thinks this stuff works a certain way until they try it. In fact, Bob will not pay attention to someone making suggestions and not actively working with the message. He has been around too long to run down that road. Everyone wants to give advice from the sidelines. Unfortunately that type of advice rarely if ever helps. Much better to have someone jump in and get their toes wet THEN give advice. For Calvert’s strategies to work in this deal. He would most likely have to work them himself. Simply because he would have to make adjustments. And only he would know how. This stuff is never the same. If you think you have experience, even relevant experience at the highest level, you will still have to tweak things.

    We have many good ideas as well (internal to BUGS). You have to have a media jumping off point and the numbers (swarmers) to work the message. We have done something that is unique insomuch as we have used the internet exclusively as jumping off point. Again, I have nothing against someone trying some of Calverts ideas for getting out our message into the lamestream media. Especially now or in the future …it certainly wont hurt. We have laid a foundation just for that. But as Derek Black will tell you. They media treated him totally different on message. And he is no fool either.

    We could totally hammer our message into the population with only a half dozen white rabbits. But we would have to have to be on Fox News often. And we would would need a few writers for big orgs to carry our terminology. This type of thing never takes as many rabbits as one would think. Neocons do it all the time. But for what we are doing with The Mantra you have to lay a foundation. Especially given the hand we have been dealt. Most of you have seen and been part of this foundation. Even when Ole Bob went on Fox News and they refused to air the segment. These days we could hammer Fox News and the relevant parties within Fox News with emails. We could also exploit the fact that they would not air the Mantra in other ways. But you have to have some numbers on your side to play this game.

    Most of the folks on Stormfront don’t fully understand what we are doing yet. That is why I spoke at the Stormfront Conference. Some of Calvert’s posts read just like everyone elses posts before they go on message. Even Don Black did not fully get it until he heard the BUGS speech at the conference. Don Black has been around and seen everything there is to see. He did not understand the Soviet template BUGS is operating under. Of course, Don Black is on message these days. That should tell you something. This is not uncommon among people that have been around a long time.

    When it comes to Pro White Dissidents with media experience. They immediately assume that something in their past experience would help with what we are doing now. The experience may apply or NOT and it may help or NOT. You just never know. Of course, you have to understand a little about how a consistent message works first by using it. There are things that carry over. And there are things that do not. I have plenty of podcasts explaining things. But Calvert is not in my target audience. Hopefully many more rabbits that always ask the basic questions will listen to the Conference Speech. The speech at the conference was custom tailored to the Stormfront audience.

    Meawhiterabbit, we have a template of action that we are operating under. That is based on the fall of the Soviet Union and HOW that was achieved via a consistent message. That template has worked for BUGS like clock work. This is not Bob’s first rodeo. There is an active group behind this message. And I am not just talking about the ones on the Swarm. And this will all work for us even in the highest places. We just have to keep playing that infamous broken record strategy. When the media shuts you down. You raise the Volume by increasing your numbers. We got lucky and have a radical new media to work with. There are a lot of interesting unknowns with the internet. The groups that brought down the Soviet Union faced a lot of the same issues with fax machines.

    I would not have been asked to put up White Rabbit Radio IF a handful of white rabbits could have gotten the media exposure necessary to achieve our objectives. On the other hand, we are at a point where someone could lay landmines easily and maybe even get famous themselves. Even a Calvert could come in with his media expertise from his music biz and set the world on fire…..or NOT. He may find out quickly that this does not work in quite same way as promoting a message having to do with white power music. You just never know.

    The key is to always think out of the box. For instance, I totally went around White Nationalism to get my audience. My podcast has a target audience that is white and normal looking to fight the system. They like to listen to Alex Jones or Rense, or Red Ice Creations. My target audience is not necessarily racially aware in the conventional sense. That is the biggest misunderstanding. Derek Black calls me a “content provider” to Stormfront. Which is correct way to look at it. I am using our large online media presence to jump off into a target audience surfing Stormfront. And that target audience is not necessarily ever going to post anything on Stromfront. The shocker was that Stormfront was large enough to do just that.

    Anyone in the Swarm or elsewhere at anytime can step and run with The Mantra. We play a simple game. As long as you are doing something creative to push The Mantra……..don’t worry about failure. You are laying landmines. There is no failure in laying landmines. There are always landmines that do not go off. Most landmines laid in warfare never go off. Why? That is the nature landmines. How many landmines do you actually need to go off to hurt an enemy? Not many…….But we had to have the foundation and the numbers to take advantage of the explosion when it happens. That is WHY there is a Bug’s Swarm buzzing around. And feel free to try your hand at organizing.

    We want 300 white rabbits spreading our message and imbedding our terminology. I am talking all online and reporting it back. We have quite a few right now that are not reporting it back. Our enemy would triple our number on the Swarm. I would only double it. We are using this as a proxy for how many out there around the planet are actually using The Mantra everyday when they open up their mouths.

    What I personally want is more and more rabbits jumping up and doing things themselves. Lay some landmines yourself. “Horus do this or that!” I am only one white rabbit. I can do a lot…..but not everything. I was overjoyed with the landmine laid on change.org. We need and will have more white rabbits stepping up and doing such things under their own initiative. More will be attracted to the action and bring their creativity. Many believe that myself or Bob will be the ones that get all the attention in regards to the White Genocide. That would be the first time such a thing happened. Again, this is from a lack of understanding of WHAT we are doing and how a consistent message works in a closed society. The white rabbits that are going to be prime time are just coming on deck. They are looking at this message right now and have just started thinking about it. Could very well be a Pro White Dissident like young Mr Black etc. You just never know. Mr Black should use it like he owns it and never give Bob credit. That is how a message has to work! If I say something you like and want to steal. STEAL IT and go prime time. Not that there is anything wrong with wearing an undercover lover tshirt. Nor is there anything wrong with saying you like my podcast. Or that you read BUGS ….but the important point is to push the message and the terminology……like you own it.

    Meawhiterabbit, your most workable idea right this minute is the “sock puppet” idea. That would work great simply because you may the interest from the swarm. Get a few together and start experimenting. You can always private message on BUGS. There are parties out there that think we are professional astroturfers. LOL. While we are not astroturfers. I have nothing against using certain ideas. The only rule is as follows:”does this work?”.

    Before I get inevitable question:”Horus what the hell is astroturfing?”. You can wiki that and find out quickly. I may go into that in a podcast and how it applies to some parties looking at us right now. We have several different parties trying to figure out where this White Genocide message is really coming from. You have been labeled “electronic soldiers” from some. I like that term. What they have found out is that we are not turfing. Our media online is actually THAT dominate. I pointed this out at the Stormfront Conference. I explained to them what having me yapping at their conference really means.

    Meawhiterabbit feel free to post a link to this on Stormfront or anywhere else you think it could be helpful. You might want to edit this. Or even make it your own. I am not a writer. But we have never achieved anything by arguing on Stormfront with other pro white dissidents. That has always been a waste of time. We look to attract those that interested in the action. We play a simple game. Our target audience is huge. And that type of rabbit will always do the homework necessary to understand what we are actually doing. Or better yet hop in and go to town with the message learning as they go. But I have never seen anyone walk into the BUGS World and use their old bag of tricks without changing something.

    H.Avenger
    http://www.whiterabbitradio.net

    #10795
    Horus
    Participant

    “There needs to be a little more organization perhaps at “the top.” and if this means we make a more hierarchical model then so be it. When i first came here posters would say the Swarm is “fluid” and this that and the other but sorry i wasn’t convinced then and i still am not convinced now that this is the way to go. I’ve been on Bugs for about 4 or 5 months and the main problem is organization. ”

    You should have been around here 5 years ago! Things were WAY more organized! lol. There was no SWARM! BUGS Swarm is considered seriously organized for such endeavors. In fact, you will rarely find white rabbits so organized. Bob has never seen anything in politics organized. Oh they try to organize meetings and press conferences etc. But that never works as planned. Even if the public is fooled to think it looked perfectly planned. They are always rushing about in a buzzing chaos. The idea for us to have the buzzing chaos with the Mantra. 🙂

    As we start hitting the magic numbers on the Swarm. You will have all the white rabbits hopping for the chance to shoot on live targets. Then you will be able to organize pink rabbit hunts from within the swarm. That can happen sooner than you think. My podcast is just now 2 years old. And you have no idea just how much experience you really have gained in just 5 months. You will be an old pro to the young ones coming on board.

    #10802
    Horus
    Participant

    Meawhiterabbit,

    You made some interesting points about Youtube and not wasting so much time at the one lone antiwhite. We certainly don’t need big numbers for that. Typically the threads I have looked at on Youtube were larger though. PM me some examples next time you see it.

    #10824
    Dick Whitman
    Participant

    I think we should ovoid hierarchy. BUGS Swarm is essentially engaging in “open source warfare.”(1) The concept of swarming is studied in military circles.(2) I also recommend the work of John Robb. (3) Robb is probably the best thinker out today regarding modern warfare. He’s not ideological in any way but does oppose the globalist bankster system.

    Robb writes about how weaker parties can defeat more powerful opponents using open source warfare and swarming. While his work relates mostly to violent warfare (dealing steel) his ideas do also definitely apply to what we’re doing (discourse war, information war, meme war).

    At the heart of it open source war and swarming require initiative and creativity by small groups of people. It values dynamism, resilience, and flexibility over size, rigidness, and purity.

    (1) http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=2&oq=open+source+warfare&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACAW_enUS375US375&q=open+source+warfare#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&rlz=1T4ACAW_enUS375US375&source=hp&q=open+source+warfare&pbx=1&oq=open+source+warfare&aq=f&aqi=g2g-v2&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=12267l12995l1l14340l4l2l2l0l0l0l491l491l4-1l4l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=bb5d7b1533420d98&biw=1366&bih=466

    (2)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarming_(military)

    (3) http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/

    #10828
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    Thank you for this Dick.

    An intriguing read on swarming to say the least.

    #10835
    meawhiterabbit
    Participant

    Horus-Great posts and thank you for going in depth. I suppose the question really is……….just how do we get these 300 Bugsters? How many new Bugsters have we picked up since i started that headcount thread a few months ago? Maybe 10 tops? What can we do to quickly recruit new users to the Swarm? How many registered since the SF seminar? 3 or 4? At this rate its going to take a long time to get 300. Lets get realistic and think how we can achieve this aim as quickly as possible. We need to take this system apart.

    Ideas? Maybe with all Mantra posts we direct people here? “Want to fight White Genocide? Come to Whitakeronline.org and listen to Horus’ Follow the White Rabbit Podcasts!”

    #10842
    Horus
    Participant

    Meawhiterabbit,

    You are as impatient as Ole Bob. I like that. I have gotten used to impatient rabbits! There was a time just recently when we had no Swarm. There was a time when we only had a half dozen white rabbits moving the Mantra around the planet! Whiterabbitradio.net is just two years old as of Sept. And you can never appeal to whiterabbits nor recruit whiterabbits. These tactics rarely work. After all, this approach did not work on you. You were attracted to something.
    We will attract 300. This will happen one white rabbit at a time. They usually come in when they smell the action. It could happen next week based on some catalyst. Or it could happen based on some natural progression. When you stick to the basics ….things will work for you.

    The Swarm is just a microcosm of what is going on out there. Getting the full amount posting right now to report will take some time. My article on this has not come out yet. And as you know the Stormfront Conference MP3’s have not come out yet. But I do know that Derek Black finally has them in his possession from the sound and video guys. If we just replicate the growth from the last 2 years…..you will have around 500.

    I am rolling out a series of upgrades to my site that have been requested. This will help build and expand my audience. I am following the same formula that helped make the podcast a success. Just more of it!

    The vast majority that currently use The Mantra or say “In your opinion I’m a racist ….your just saying that because I am White …..Antiracism is just a codeword for Antitwhite”…..are never going to post online. Keep that in mind.

    #10843
    meawhiterabbit
    Participant

    Horus-Cool! Me impatient?! Ha. I just want to see this system torn to bits as soon as possible. Its DONE! THEY are DONE!

    #10846
    Dick Whitman
    Participant

    I’m interested in seeing how much bigger the swarm will be after the conference videos are posted at Stormfront? The videos should be good for marketing BUGS Swarm? Horus made a good point about most of the discussions at SF being a waste of time. I look at SF as a pool of human resources that are being utilized poorly. People put in a lot of time posting doom and gloom at SF when they should be at BUGS Swarm seeking and destroying the enemy.

    We need to use our labor pool more efficiently. We have people who don’t mind spending many hours posting on the Internet at SF. These people are motivated and want to make a difference. Someone like Truck Roy (who is known and respected at SF) should concentrate his time on getting these people conducting BUGS Swarm operations. There should be one guy over at SF who does nothing but encouraging people and training them for BUGS swarm.

    #10848
    Dick Whitman
    Participant

    Good Article by John Robb: “How to start an open source insurgency”

    http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2008/03/starting-an-ope.html

    #10849
    Horus
    Participant

    Dick,
    They are not releasing videos. They are releasing the MP3’s. David Duke may release his speech via the video on his site. But Stormfront is not releasing any videos.

    Posting The Mantra and reporting that to BUGS Swarm is fairly straightforward. When it gets into arguing within the confines of the Mantra. That takes a little work and initiative. We have a fair number of newcomers starting to get their toes wet with the Mantra right this minute. They are using the terminology everyday and getting used to how it works.

    #10850

    @Dick,my opinion of that Robb guy is “money for old rope”.Before I was an active BUGser I used to read his stuff and what it boils down to is asymmetric warfare sprinkled with high technology,buzzwords,and self-promotion.It`s an entertaining read for sure,but value to our cause?

    @meanwhiterabbit,a good organizational start would be less non-essential thread creation and more active posting on mantra targets in the swarm.

    #10851
    Dick Whitman
    Participant

    Horus,

    yes I meant to write audio instead of video. I’m hoping these audios attract more people to BUGS. And now that I think about it, the videos should be good training guides.

    dungeoneer,

    I believe Robb’s work is indeed valuable to us regardless of his motivations. Apparently the American intelligence organizations think so as well because he has briefed them regarding his work. He also gave testimony to congress.

    #10859
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    @dungeon Haha! I fall victim to perpetual brainstorming myself. I will get back to it tomorrow night. Today and this past month have been a real drain on me.

    #10863
    meawhiterabbit
    Participant

    @Uncle Dungy-LOL no i also have a couple of youtube accounts that i use to post with nowadays.You just don’t know the handles. meawhiterabbit is only used for “non-essential thread creation”…he is an inquisitive rabbit that lad. However Dungy all the “active posting” we have been doing for the past few months hasn’t brought us in as many new members as i would like. The majority of these “non-essential” threads are to conjure up new ideas to recruit more Bugsters to swarm targets………..haven’t you heard we need 300. Have you any ideas other than just constant swarming and telling people to swarm more that will increase our membership? We need 250 plus so all ideas welcome.

    Genseric-There is nothing wrong with brainstorming. Keep coming up with ideas. Who knows one of us might come up with something that brings us 10 fresh new posters within a couple of months. That would be a result.

    #10931
    meawhiterabbit
    Participant

    Bugsters-Seriously. We have 38, i repeat 38 voices in the headcount thread. How do we get more? Ideas? Suggestions? Brainstorming? Lets make this happen.

    #10935
    -Gar5-
    Participant

    @meawhiterabbit

    Well, what tactics have we used so far? We could make a list of those we’ve used. I’m interested in what creator has done to recruit his team of Bugsters, maybe we could do something like that on a bigger scale?

    If we want to recruit more Bugsters, then maybe we would have to do something like a video of how we take apart our opponents arguments and logic, and then just humiliate them, vs the typical “news and jews” arguments from our side.

    As Truck Roy put it (paraphrasing): they’re basically using a bow and arrow, and we’re showing them this gun and telling them how much better it is, and they are saying “oh really?”, then they go back to using the bow and arrow.

    We need to show them this metaphoric gun in action; as well as the arguments we won, we could highlight the times we got our message in the media.

    #10936
    Horus
    Participant

    meawhiterabbit,

    There are 60 voices on “where did you post the mantra today”. That is the thread I promote. Obviously, not all of them are in the headcount thread. A month ago it was barely in the 50’s if not still the 40’s. I looked the other day at it was at 59. So we are picking up rabbits. And more importantly they are posting and reporting to some extent. You are on the wrong thread. And you guys keep talking about recruiting.

    Please read what I wrote again.

    We can only attract White Rabbits. Appealing to White Rabbits never works in the long run. And action always attracts White Rabbits. More action ….more white rabbits. It’s that simple…..so starting watching the correct thread.

    #10948
    meawhiterabbit
    Participant

    Gar5-Thats a good idea. As far as i am aware mainly swarming, a few Mantra reads (Teutonic Chicks was by far the most popular………it would be nice to get her totally on our side and dropping the mantra more) and some videos of Horus’ going over talking points, oh and a couple of songs.
    I am intending to make a couple of videos but i am totally bogged down with work projects so that is on the back burner.

    I am still disussing with HeyRuka to make a Mantra video but she keeps saying its coming but she has a sequence of videos that will lead into it. Not sure if she’s stalling or what. She has a good amount of viewers.

    Another idea i am considering is making a youtube account that literally just advertises Whitakeronline and Bugs-a little manual “spam bot.” I am not sure if its a good idea or not. Thoughts please?

    Or how about i go around forum-random forums with large amounts of members and post something along the lines of

    “Want to help fight White Genocide?
    Come to whitakeronline.org and join BUGS. Your race needs you”

    Thats it. Then onto next target? Too risky? Will we get taken over by shills?

    Music forums? Could we target genre specific forums? Maybe metal? Certainly not hiphop haha.

    Horus-Yep you are spot on. My mistake sorry. I am just trying to think of actions that will attract these little white rabbits. I am still hitting youtube mantra targets with posts but just brainstorming as well.

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