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Just looking them over quickly I had the following thoughts:
In the first one you write: “Every group today has taken land from others. The only difference is that White people were better at it.” Well, that second sentence could be taken as White supremacist. Besides, Genghis Khan was pretty good at taking land, too, wasn’t he? And so were the Arab Muslims and the Ottoman Turks. I’d take out the second sentence and perhaps replace it with examples of non-White conquests.
You also write “Oriental Asia is not being globally ‘diversified’.” Although the word “Oriental” was a perfectly respectable word when I was a kid, I think today it’s considered a hate word (unless it’s being applied to a restaurant run by an Oriental, er, I mean an Asian, in which case it’s cultural enrichment). I would replace it with “East Asia.”
Will the first e-Book have any references to BUGS or how to join us?
In the second one, you seem to be suggesting that White rabbits/people are better than the other species/races. It’s not that I disagree, but I’m not sure that that’s the best way to present the message. On the other hand, I don’t have any suggestions as to how to make it better.
CarlomanParticipant@Sysop, how do I send you a private message to inquire about the private area of this website?
CarlomanParticipantI don’t know enough about genetics to say whether, from a purely genetic analysis, Jews are White or non-White, although I strongly suspect that they are genetically different from Whites, as there are often physical differences. But I do know that most Jews do not consider themselves White and have no loyalty to White people, so on that basis I consider them non-White. But since Benjamin agrees that they should not live in White countries, that’s good enough for me.
CarlomanParticipantBenjamin, thank you for answering my question and clearing up the matter. You say that Jews are genetically White but do not belong in White countries. In that case, I don’t think that there’s any substantive difference between our views on the matter, and we can consider the issue settled and resume the productive relationship that we had before.
I’m still curious as to why you chose the name “Levi.” If it was for the reason that I originally speculated, then that is certainly a legitimate reason. But if asking this question will reopen the confrontation, then I will let the matter drop.
CarlomanParticipantBenjamin, whoa there! I never said anything about the ADL! I even thought WmWhite’s comments were a bit over the top . . . at first. But the more I read your posts, the more I agree with WmWhite.
When you first came here, and I read your Google name “Levi Manns,” my initial assumption was that you were using that name because Jews have a lot of respect in our society, and people will listen to a message about White genocide from a Jew who would not listen to the same message from a White person. I find that distasteful, but reasonable.
When you started trying to convince us that Jews are White, I figured, okay, you’re a Jew, and you see the writing on the wall, so you want to sneak Jews in under the category White. Jews have done that before, so it wouldn’t be surprising. Even then I didn’t think you were trying to disrupt what we were doing, only to subvert the Mantra ever so slightly so that you and your tribe could sneak in under the door. I still figured you were sincere. But with your latest rantings, I’m not so sure.
I had hoped to stay out of this scuffle. After all, if a Jew, a Black, or even a White race-mixer wishes to post the Mantra, there’s nothing wrong with that, but they will still not be allowed to live in a White land. So I simply wanted to keep quiet and let this whole thing pass. After all, you were very helpful in critiquing many of our posts, including mine. I wanted that relationship to continue. In the end, if it turned out that you were a Jew, then we appreciate you help, here’s your hat, have a nice time in Israel.
But since your paranoid rantings continue unabated, I think I must ask you two direct questions:
1) ARE YOU A JEW?
2? WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS?
If you are a Jew and sincerely want to end White genocide, I have no problem cooperating with you here, but you and your tribe will not be permitted to live in a White country (except perhaps as a diplomat). If you’re not a Jew, then please clear up the issue by stating so right now.
CarlomanParticipantCheck out the following site:
http://www.jewfaq.org/jnames.htm
There are really only three surnames that are specifically Jewish in nature: variations on Cohen, Levy and Israel. These names are derived from tribal ancestry that were recorded by the Jewish people and recognized in synagogue with various distinctions.
And what does all this biblical discussion have to do with White genocide? Many White people have biblical names; that doesn’t make them Jewish. But choosing the name “Levi” out of all the possibilities for names out there seems quite odd to me. It appears that you either (1) want readers to think that you are Jewish, or (2) want to encourage White/Jewish assimilation, or (3) want to catch the attention of philosemites, or (4) want to annoy Jews by using a name that’s clearly associated with them for some non-Jewish purpose. But given your other statements, (4) seems most unlikely.
CarlomanParticipantTo clarify my question, I was referring to the name “Levi,” not to the name “Benjamin.” There are many White people named Benjamin, but Levi is ONLY a Jewish name.
08/08/2014 at 4:43 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95332CarlomanParticipant@ElectrivcWhiteRabbit: Oh I agree entirely with what your saying. All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t think of ourselves as needing their approval. For example, when the Japanese discuss domestic politics, they don’t take into consideration whether non-Japanese agree with them, nor do they try to convince non-Japanese of their positions. Our attitude should be the same.
08/08/2014 at 4:25 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95330CarlomanParticipantOur task isn’t primarily to convince race-mixers or non-Whites, but to convince unmixed Whites. If race-mixers or non-Whites agree with us, that’s a bonus, but it’s not essential.
It’s really weird to me when I post the Mantra, and most of the replies appear to come from non-Whites. A hundred and fifty years ago, when White people discussed politics, the discussion was only among White people. A Negro wouldn’t join in on the conversation any more than a horse or a cow would.
Yet today it is almost universally understood that a Negro’s opinion or a race-mixer’s opinion has the same relevance as ours. This even seems to prevail among BUGSers to a certain extent. Of course, we have to play the game, so to speak, and act as if they matter. But if we are dependent on their agreeing with us, that is a very weak position to be in. It is as if we need their permission to end White genocide.
That said, if we could get a lot of non-Whites and race-mixers to agree with us, that would make things a lot easier for us, but we can never consider it essential. Most of them should be written off as unreachable, as even if a few of them agree with us, they won’t be living in our society, anyway.
08/03/2014 at 3:47 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95212CarlomanParticipantAs far as exactly what territories should be all-White, that is for our future leaders to decide, and we don’t need to take a position on it.
My personal opinion is that Europe should be 100% White, and I would be willing to accept ANY means to accomplish that. With regard to North America, the United States is almost certain to collapse anyway, and, when that happens, the most practical solution would be for some of the resulting smaller states to be reserved for non-Whites, with Whites taking the lion’s share of the territory.
But, in promoting our message, we don’t need to talk about this; we should only be talking about White genocide. We won’t be the ones to decide these matters, in any event.
National territories change over time, anyway. Probably every country in the world has different borders today than it did one hundred years ago. Our goal is not to freeze the current borders of the world, but to point out that White genocide is taking place and to put an end to it.
07/28/2014 at 10:34 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95121CarlomanParticipant@shari, have you listened to Beefcake’s Bootcamp? In it, Beefcake goes into what things to say and what not to say. Two things not to say are (1) how good White people are, and (2) how bad other races are. Beefcake’s lectures are based on Bob’s long experience. And Bob has learned through experience that, if you say either of those two things, people will turn off and not listen. Or, as Horus would say, true information has no meaning to them. This is especially true of a White person married to a non-White. He would probably be the least likely to want to hear that non-Whites aren’t as good as Whites.
Here’s a good article that Bob wrote on the subject:
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2014/04/20/snipers/
If you want to be effective, only make points related to White genocide, and ignore the other targets around you, tempting though they may be.
07/28/2014 at 7:49 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95115CarlomanParticipant@shari wrote:
Why not ask those with mixed race children, if they think that, those children will be better off, if there is no white race or white countries left? Will a non-white world really be better?
No, that is not the right response; at least, it is not the right BUGS response. Because White genocide has nothing to do with whether the world is better off with or without White people. We don’t have to prove our right to exist, and, besides, they probably believe that the world would be better off without us.
If you speak to them at all (and I think the context was a group discussion with non-race-mixers present as well), you simply have to point out that White genocide is happening, and that their personal choice of action does not justify public policy effecting White genocide.
07/27/2014 at 8:25 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95100CarlomanParticipantWhether mixed-race children are an abomination or not has nothing to do with whether White genocide is happening or not. They’re really two separate questions.
To think of the matter abstractly, in a chemistry course I took in college, the professor told us that, once we used a spoon to mix chemicals, we must never put the spoon back into a container of a pure chemical because that would contaminate the batch. He wasn’t saying that we couldn’t mix the chemicals; in fact, we were required to mix the chemicals. He was telling us not to contaminate the pure batches.
So saying that genocide is wrong is not the same as saying that a mixed-race child is an abomination. However, most people who oppose White genocide probably would find a mixed-race child an abomination.
So, if someone asks you whether you think their child is an abomination, you can answer, “That has nothing to do with it. We simply want to end White genocide,” and you would be perfectly correct, just as whether mixing the chemicals is an abomination has nothing to do with keeping the batches pure.
07/26/2014 at 8:25 am in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95072CarlomanParticipantBenjamin wrote:
The mantra is for “unblocking” anti-white thought in people who appreciate their own people/have loyalty to their own people in some form or another and want to preserve that. The mantra is not for convincing someone to appreciate their own people. There are some people who have no loyalty to their own group.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some people who were anti-White or lacked any loyalty to their own people who were turned around by the Mantra.
But Benjamin and Jason are right, your task is to make the point that White genocide is happening, not that race-mixing is an abomination or that they will have to move. You don’t have to convince them; just make the point, make it repeatedly, and don’t back down. You may be able to disarm them. By that I mean that they will no longer feel confident about promoting non-White immigration and will remain silent on the issue.
07/25/2014 at 6:02 pm in reply to: How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children? #95064CarlomanParticipantI haven’t read all the articles that Bob has written over the past 15 years, so I’m not exactly sure of what Bob’s position is on the subject. Here are a couple of responses that I thought of:
We don’t seek to eliminate all mixed-race countries. Why do you seek to eliminate all all-White countries?
All of Latin America is for mixed-race people. Why can’t we have any all-White countries?
I’m not sure whether these answers are BUGS correct, so criticism is welcome. I do know, however, that Beefcake has said that there could still be some mixed-race areas for people who wanted that. I assume that he meant in separate countries.
My personal opinion is that no non-White or mixed-race person, and no one with non-White/mixed-race children should be allowed in any White country, except as a tourist, diplomat, or a small number necessary to conduct international trade, and perhaps a few students and visiting athletes. I would not make any compromises or concessions on that point. Beyond that, I don’t believe that the United States will survive intact, so separate non-White/mixed-race countries North of the Rio Grande are a possibility. Europe should be 100% White.
CarlomanParticipantMy thinking on the matter is
(1) Whites are from Europe. Jews are from Israel. Israel is not in Europe.
(2) Jews themselves don’t think of themselves as White, except when it’s convenient to do so.That’s why, given (1) and (2) I would say that Jews are not White, although they are obviously Caucasian. Of course, many Jews have considerable White admixture, but, because of the loyalty factor, they should be excluded as being counted as White as well.
Benjamin, you’ve never explained to us why you chose a blatantly Jewish name as your online persona. Care to explain that to us?
CarlomanParticipantThe words “white nations,” “white countries,” “non-white nations,” and “non-white countries” appear throughout the article.
In every instance that he refers to White nations or White countries, either the word “white” appears within quotation marks, or it is preceded by the phrase “so-called.”
In every instance save one that he refers to non-White nations or countries, the words “non-white” do not appear within quotation marks and are not preceded by the phrase “so-called.”
Whom does he think he is fooling with this when he can’t even fool himself?
CarlomanParticipantTo me, the purpose of contacting politicians isn’t to change their opinions, because most politicians don’t hold opinions, but to influence their votes. The politician won’t read your message, anyway; it will be read by a staffer, and he will keep a tally of how many people are in favor of or oppose to a particular piece of legislation, which he will report to his boss. So if thousands of people send faxes, say, to oppose amnesty, it may have an influence. That’s where NumbersUSA comes in handy. Even if the politician is anti-White, he still wants to be reelected, so you may have an influence. But I don’t think that a few of us sending Mantras will make any difference.
If you can contact the media and get them to report on something Mantra-related, that is good, but, as with politicians, even if they run a story, it’s not because they are pro-White, but rather because they think it will make for a sensational story, or for some other reason.
That’s why, even though I do participate in NumbersUSA, posting the Mantra or mini-Mantras on youtube, news articles, social media sites, etc., is the most effective thing we can do at this point.
CarlomanParticipantThe purpose of what we are doing is not to convince the anti-Whites. The purpose is to present our memes, or repeaters, to the fence-sitters, and to provoke a response from the anti-Whites to make them look bad in front of the audience of fence-sitters. Contacting representatives in Congress or members of the media will not do that, because there is no “audience.” The mainstream media (MSM) is solidly anti-White. Most politicians are anti-White, although there are some pro-Whites or “undercover lovers.”
If you want to contact your representatives, http://www.numbersusa.com is a site you may be interested in. It sends you action alerts whenever there is a vote on an immigration issue. It then presents you with boilerplate faxes that you can edit and insert Mantra terminology if you wish. I’ve had an account with them for years.
The MSM is so solidly anti-White that contacting them is probably a waste of time. There may be exceptions, but trying to find them is probably not an efficient use of time.
Beefcakes Bootcamp is a good introduction on how to present the Mantra in front of an audience, and making the anti-Whites look bad in front of the audience.
05/11/2014 at 8:20 pm in reply to: Denying the consequences of speaking out, and demanding a list of names #93600CarlomanParticipant@Denounce Genocidists, that was perfect! I’ll keep that in mind next time someone asks that.
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