In our last exciting episode below I discussed the controversy that convulsed the early church, “Can the man Jesus, who was clearly a man, also be God?”
In the end the Middle East never accepted the idea that the G-d of Israel could be man and that is a major reason it is now Islamic. There is one God, and he is God.
North of the Middle East the doctrine that Jesus was both God and man was accepted.
North of the Middle east the debate completely reversed itself.
Instead of asking whether the man Jesus was God, the debate became whether the God Jesus could have been man.
Let’s bring this right up to date. There is not a single church today which would not be offended by the idea that Jesus the man ever wanted to have sex with any woman.
THINK about it before you react to this statement. Can you imagine telling any conservative Christian that Jesus wanted to go to bed with any female?
Jesus was God. He had no lust.
Can a man with no lust be a man?
This concept of Jesus had very practical consequences. In the centuries following the Council of Nicea Jesus became more and more God. The people who had looked upon Jesus as the mediator between themselves and God began to see Jesus as being as forbidding and as unreachable as Jehovah.
That is where Mariology came from.
People began more and more to pray to Mary, the Holy Mother, as the person who could understand us lowly humans. Jesus was as far away as Jehovah.
For over a thousand years theologians denounced the “Cult of Mary.” Augustine fought it. St. Thomas Aquinas fought it.
But Western people wanted someone human they could pray to, like the old gods.
Finally Mary was accepted as the human mediator with God, as the human being who could understand both God and men.
Once the idea that Mary had a direct link to God was accepted, Mary began to become a part of God in the eyes of theologians.
So once again, the theologians asked, “If Mary is a part of God, can she be fully human?”
One thing all of the church fathers agreed on was that any human being conceived by sex was conceived in sin. Jesus was conceived to the Virgin Mary, so he was the only exception.
But what about the Virgin Mary herself? Was SHE conceived in sin? Finally in 1854 the pope declared The Immaculate Conception of Mary to be dogma, and anyone who denied it was a heretic.
Mary was not conceived in sex. She was part of God.
Mary was a part of God, and therefore she could not be fully human.
As I keep repeating, Buddhist theologians have been proving for decades that the Buddha could not have come from the “dirty” womb of a female. And Christian doctrine now holds that Mary could not have come from the “dirty” sex act and that Jesus could have had any thought of the “dirty” sex act.
In the world of Islam, a man cannot be God.
In the Christian world, God cannot be a man.
Both are heresies.
And as Screwtape said, Satan doesn’t care how you got Down There. He just wants you There.
An obsession with sex is great way to get somebody Down There.
It doesn’t matter if the obsession is with having sex or with not having sex.
As long as your obsession keeps you from seeing Christ as both man and God, it can be used to get you straight to what Screwtape referred to as “Our Father Below.”
This illustrates that people always get so obsessed with their own cultural concepts that they forget the basics. That is an excellent lesson, even if you have no religion at all.
#1 by Elizabeth on 09/20/2005 - 7:09 pm
If you’re female, sometimes discussing something, even in prayer, with a man/male
presence, can be intimidating.
In real life, sometimes the best way to get through to a male VIP is to go
through his secretary, his wife — or Mama. (This may be an alien concept
to those of you not fortunate enough to be Southerners!)
One things I’ve noticed since my first visit to a Catholic church is that
not having a female presence (Mary) tends to result in a feminized Jesus.
Any orthodox (doctrinally-correct) Catholic church has at least one image
of the Holy Family, which could be considered an earthly Trinity. After all,
Jesus was part of a FAMILY, while He was present in flesh on Earth.
#2 by joe rorke on 09/22/2005 - 2:12 pm
Now there’s a great question. Can a man with no lust be a man? Which is to say, can a man with no strong desire be a man? I’m using “lust” here as not just desire but very strong desire. This seems to be a philosophical question. After enough years of hearing about this and that I have come to the conclusion that notwithstanding what anyone else might know about God, I know nothing. To believe and to know are not the same thing. Theologians? NOt interested.