You might want to read “Agents” below to see what the subject is. I pointed out that my experience with runors about someone being an “agent” has been entirely negative. When I put this on Stormfront all the commenters but one wholeheartedly agreed that their experience was the same, and I got a number of rep points for saying this.
But one respondent decided that I was actually one of the “agents.”
This is my exchange with him:
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Originally Posted by Baldy
I’ve edited this post many times, Bob, because of your close connections to SF. I did not know of your dubious past…..
To say that there are not agents and active informers in here and in every “WN” group is dangerous and foolish.
Too many of us have been dragged through the federal coals based on false information from lunatic anti-White federal agents and their lap dogs. We have many prisoners who have been framed by the feds and their faggot informers.
I don’t know what else to say, Bob. You seem to be trying to convince everyone that it is totally safe to say anything because agents and informers don’t really exist.
Well, they do. They really, really do and if anyone does not believe that simple fact will end up in prison.
ME:
My “dubious” background was in the Cold War working against the Reds.
The trouble with your post is that it concentrates entirely on Bob Whitaker’s One Man Cospiracy and has nothing PRACTICAL in it.
How, exactly, do these agents operate?
I personally never run into anything in our movement that could be EXPOSED. My time is spent trying to get information about what we are doing and what we have to say tot he public through the media blackout. if you have useful, SPECIFIC warnings, then you should concentrate on THOSE.
I would be interested in practical information.
To get to the real point here, do you know of any case where “outing” agents actually WORKED? HOW did it work? Every case I know of a panic over some “agent” served only to destroy a comrade’s effectiveness in our movement.
If there are agents, then in my limited experience, we are doing a really loousy job of dealing with them. Can YOU give us something to IMPROVE on that performance, or do you just want to sit around re-editing posts that insult a lifelong battler for our cause?
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Originally Posted by Baldy
I’ve edited this post many times, Bob, because of your close connections to SF. I did not know of your dubious past…..
To say that there are not agents and active informers in here and in every “WN” group is dangerous and foolish.
Too many of us have been dragged through the federal coals based on false information from lunatic anti-White federal agents and their lap dogs. We have many prisoners who have been framed by the feds and their faggot informers.
I don’t know what else to say, Bob. You seem to be trying to convince everyone that it is totally safe to say anything because agents and informers don’t really exist.
Well, they do. They really, really do and if anyone does not believe that simple fact will end up in prison.
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#1 by Pain on 10/14/2006 - 1:50 pm
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The only real agents he could be referring to are those that specifically go to “leaders” to talk about committing specific crimes. This has no bearing on speaking out about political and cultural issues.
#2 by Alan B. on 10/14/2006 - 2:06 pm
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Don’t waste time with the idiots who fear the bogyman is right around the corner. I’m heere to learn I want to come up with ways to get the message out that PC(pretty crazy) is destroying American and the white population while most of America is asleep. I do not hate anyone. yeah jews may control information me are many they are few, buy out their news papers or tv stations, organize or just boycott what the own. My view point on blacks is, they are americans too, period. This the why I am here, I want this unrestricted non white immigration to stop, its ruining america for us and the blacks. Its about our culture, heritage,lanuage,laws and history, its about AMERICA. Fuck this mickymouse bullshit about anyone can come here that the PC crowed wants you to believe, its like a sick bunch of freaks are trying to kill off a great country and a people.
#3 by freeagent on 10/14/2006 - 6:52 pm
You ask for useful, specific warnings about agents. I think the Metzgers over at W.A.R. have the right idea about this (tho’ I don’t agree with all their positions.) Don’t advocate illegalities. Don’t ‘hypothetically’ discuss illegalities too much. Remember that “conspiracy” is a CRIME in and of itself apart from actually commiting the crime being conspired about. Two people makes a conspiracy in the eyes of the government. Don’t trust anyone who advocates illegalities, although if you know the person and it’s pretty clear the discussion is hypothetical or historical you MIGHT be alright. Don’t “out” supposed agents in paranoic witch-hunt fashion, but rather (in good old-fashioned New Testament style, ironically) give them warning and then if they don’t listen, shun them. Make it clear to group members that the only penalty the group can administer is expulsion and possibly legal action (if warranted). Study RICO statutes as they can be used against you. The Metzgers say avoid ALL groups (their “Lone Wolf” doctrine), but on this point I disagree, at least if all the preceding cautions are followed.
#4 by freeagent on 10/14/2006 - 6:56 pm
Almost forgot: When confronted with actual representatives of the Iron Fist, remember the Five Words: I Have Nothing to Say. Period! More people get themselves in hot water by opening their damn fool mouths (just watch any episode of “Cops” when some drunken idiot runs his mouth off about how sorry he is for all the crimes he just commited, or some housewife buckles under to some good cop / bad cop song and dance … “We know you did such and such, we just talked to Billy Bob and he told us everything, so you might as well make it easy on yourself, if you cooperate it’ll look good…” BS!!) Once again: Five Words — “I Have Nothing to Say.” (Save the 14 Words for your court appearance.)