Tim, thanks for posting this article by Fjordman. There is strength and urgency in these arguments. Our message is ALIVE and growing stronger.
On a recent thread where I posted the mantra (takimag), there were two distinct streams of conversation. The first was dominated by the usual white-hating intellectuals who were debating among themselves about the evils of Catholicism and Colonialism. The other stream contained persons concerned about the genocide of whites world-wide. Those in the first thread were actively ignoring the raging debate that was going on all around them that focused on preserving the white race. I see this as an example of how this discussion is going to play out. The respectables and intellectuals will continue living in the past and debating among themselves, becoming more and more irrelevant. We are beginning to dominate this conversation.
Let’s see them try to take it back. They are like fake professional wrestlers and we are like Fight Club. Who do you think is going to win this debate?
— woundednietzsche
ME:
Excellent point:
SF is obsessed with revolutions of the obvious sort. But in the world of real power, ruling ideas die not with a bang but with a whisper. Not a single Politically Correct assumption about nature and human nature that was absolutely de rigueur for an Intellectual in the 1950s is anything but a joke today.
Nobody knows real power because nobody remembers the real victories, and the “experts” certainly will never bring them up. No professional academic wants anyone reminding him what his ideas were decades ago.
So what IS power? Is it a torchlight parade, or is what the old man (not me) was literally shrieking at the last New Orleans convention, “Mao Tse Tung said that ‘Power comes from the barrel of a gun!”
Napoleon had a fair idea of what power was about. He is near the top of anybody’s list as a military genius, but he had another qualification for his appointments to top ranks: “Give me a man who is LUCKY!”
My exercising of power is in that vein. It may be just luck that caused people to start pointing out that “Labor VOTES” in the immigration debate. Before that, the discussion combined “the free movement of goods, services, and LABOR” between countries. I had to put together the entire New Right Papers to bring that argument, Societal Property Rights, into central focus. It is so obvious it is hardly noticed now.
I’m lucky that way. Fjordmann and the conservative attacking the propositional state happen to be saying what only I said for so long.
It is easy to say, and possible, that my efforts did not cause these things. I am dead certain they did, since I remember years of blank expressions when I madder these points. I have a lifetime of experience boiling down arguments until I am met with that bovine stare which means they don’t get it AGAIN.
I know for dead certain that when libertarians and Moonies were saying that immigration laws were just like the Berlin Wall, absolutely NOBODY else challenged it. I was the ONLY person in DC to write the Moonie Times that a jail wall works both ways, that you can’t spend the night INSIDE the DC Jail without papers and you can’t get OUT of DC Jail without papers. But to say that being IN the DC jail’s walls is the same as being OUTSIDE those same walls is insane.
Nobody had THOUGHT of that!
I think we are responsible for these fundamental changes in thought. I KNOW that these changes in fundamental thought are infinitely more important than ANY torchlight parade or mass meeting. It is a comfort to me to know that a group of people now understand these things the way I have for so VERY long.
Even if I overestimate us, which I DON’T – I made my living doing this in the big leagues – there is no doubt about it: We are shooting in the right direction. We are dead accurate.
#1 by Dave on 10/12/2007 - 12:09 am
In life, we always get more than we bargain for.
Fanatics of any stripe never see it.
That’s a big part of history.
And it is the real reason ruling ideas die with a whisper.
#2 by Simmons on 10/12/2007 - 9:51 am
Reviewed in TAC this issue is a book by Steven Pinker about the connections of thought and language very related to wordism. It seems the once ruling dogma of psycho something or another in the college fantasy land was that language was the prime determiner of thought which did not exist outside of the sounds or works of language. Or basically the non-white world’s perception and complete lack of understanding of cause and effect no doubt led by the rabbis of the mommy prof priesthood, a joke in other words.
#3 by mderpelding on 10/12/2007 - 8:42 pm
Real power is the ability to change the world view of people.
Or to provide a narrative that resonates with enough of them to obtain control.
But remember, that narrative must be simpatico with their nature.
Force has nothing to do with it.
A follower has no gun in his back.
#4 by woundednietzsche on 10/13/2007 - 9:39 am
Wow, more from Fjordman today on mass immigration of 3rd world into white countries. Please note the reference to an online blog which contains a paragraph that sounds strikingly familiar:
Many Westerners watch with resigned fatalism as we are told by our leaders and our media that this is “inevitable.” But nothing is inevitable. Our societies will collapse if this continues, yet we are supposed to be quiet bystanders to our own demise. Right-wingers tell us that it will be “good for the economy,” and left-wingers attack us for “racism and discrimination” if we desire our continued existence.
At Lawrence Auster’s blog, an Indian living in the West writes:
They say that all ‘rich nations’ will face mass immigration. But, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore and even Malaysia are also rich nations. Immigration to those countries is close to zero. I think that immigration is matter of government policy and national will. If the will is there, you can have zero immigration or limited immigration. But there isn’t the will to do anything about immigration in the West. Instead they sit and wring their hands. (…) If there was ever a picture of a society that has been completely finished, this is it. You don’t have to discriminate on racial grounds or religious grounds, just reduce the annual quota to 1000 or 10000. Nothing illiberal about that. But they cannot contemplate even that! Westerners amuse me. Even the worst cowards in the so-called ‘third world’ have more spine than this.
We seem to have lost our willpower. Why? Maybe some of those traits which previously used to be our greatest assets, such as our respect for women, for human rights, individual freedom and for openness to outsiders have been carried into such extremes that they have become liabilities. Perhaps even initially good ideas can turn bad if practiced without moderation. The key word, which we seem to have forgotten, is “balance.” According to a conservative Swedish friend of mine, many of the seemingly crazy excesses now on display are not so much a perversion of Western civilization as a fulfilment of it. What has happened is that Westerners have carried many of the seeds of our culture into their theoretical (and extreme) limits. This has left us confused; we have fulfilled our civilizational mission, and don’t know what to do next. END.
Sounds like our consulting skills are going to be in demand very soon.