If you compare turn-of-the-century radiotelegraph to the TV networks of the 1950s, and notice things move FASTER now, you can get a look at how I view the coming century. Look at us as 1908 instead of 2008, instead of wireless radio, look at biological advances.

I remember when cloning was declared impossible, about two decades ago. I remember when heart transplants were declared impossible, and then when those who had declared them impossible were banking on the fact that patients only lived a few extra months or years.

So I will put a news time here, which I seldom do:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/26/regrowing.body.parts/index.html#

SAN ANTONIO, Texas (CNN) — Last week in an operating room in Texas, a wounded American soldier underwent a history-making procedure that could help him regrow the finger that was lost to a bomb attack in Baghdad last year….

What the usual discussion of this would produce would be a set of comments by Super Doctor Gillboob saying this is nonsense or Respected Finger Specialist Gottlieb saying this one won’t work or Harvard Ethics Professor Finklestein saying it’s Evil and Pat Robertson backing him up. I would also receive the usual statement about the different between embryonic stem cells and others.

My idea of the future is entirely different. I have been described by those who have know me for decades as “so right it’s CREEPY” about the future because I see a PICTURE, not a bunch of current news or current commentary. I see a PICTURE.

As I said, I look at this finger replacement ATTEMPT the way I would have looked at wireless telegraphy as Marconi moved from sending signals room to room to sending them across his yard and so forth, year after year.

The reason Georgia dentist Crawford Long’s anesthesia was rejected and patients had to have surgery in agony for years was because, when he demonstrated nitrous oxide, the patient GROANED. That happened with NO2 though the patient was deep under. It justified the experts that anesthesia was impossible.

Cute joke. Look what it COST!

But Crawford Long clearly demonstrated that doctors were TRYING anesthesia long before they finally found out what the far more dangerous method later adopted was tested out. It was the key to the FUTURE, which is my concern.

If we are to influence the future, we must have a clear idea of what it will NOT be like. ALL our present discussions of the future are hopelessly mired in what IS and the expectations drawn from what IS.

I have discussed this before, but had no real comments on it. That was why I was so ecstatic to see Prometheus’ exposition on temporal provincialism below.

Has anybody ever studied Whites in prehistory? It’s depressing.

There were White Eurasian tribes in North and South America 9,000 years ago. They were wiped out by the Amerindians. Same in China and many other places. A combination of conquest and interbreeding.

Presumably there weren’t any Jews around in those days. We could do the job pretty well by ourselves.

All those centuries living in the frozen north during the Ice Age made us superior in many ways, but they took away our natural defences. You could only survive and pass on your genes if you were prepared to help and share, so we bred a race that was too trusting. Living among other more selfish races, we didn’t stand a chance.

Bob’s right when he says the future belongs to the few whites who have inherited immunity to the ‘white guilt’ virus. I just hope there are enough of them to sustain a people.

— richard

I can’t speak for whites nine thousand years ago. I was much younger and less observant back then. As I remember my big interest at that time was developing a palatable recipe for mammoth stew.

In more recent millennia, our big problem has been that we developed a unique way of thinking. No other race ever asked whether life itself was WORTH LIVING. Hinduism and Buddhism came in an age when it wasn’t. Their goal was not, as we Christians misinterpret it, achieving Heaven or Nirvana, but achieving total annihilation, total oblivion, escape from the Wheel of Life represented by eternal reincarnation.

Modern Political Correctness is totally white supremacist in this sense. There is no question of a question in Politically Correct doctrine that the white race, and ONLY the white race, would consider self-annihilation the ultimate virtue. It would never occur to any adherent of our established religion that a black man or a Jew or an Oriental would consider the end of his own genotype to be a VIRTUE.

No one commented on the USEFULNESS of the term “Ethnic Soiling” as I specifically asked you to. What I got back was wandering thoughts.

AFKAN spent hundreds of words justifying his train-of-thought long pieces. All writers do that early on.

Long writing is lazy writing. Montaigne said it hundreds of years ago:

“If I had had more time, I would have written less.”

Rewriting, tightening up, is what makes writing for the market so HARD. Writing to be read is a matter of courtesy to the reader. As Pain points out, it also gets your important points READ.

If I address that Montaigne quote at AFKAN, another one of his quotes could have been addressed to ME:

“If I expected everything I say to be believed, I would not write.”

About everything I criticize, especially when it comes to writing, is a sin I myself have committed down through the decades and STILL repeat. For years readers here had to beat me over the head to get me to CONSISTENTLY take the simple step of putting my pieces in Word and check for errors before publishing them. Reading through my pieces where I left in all those errors, a sin which AFKAN does NOT commit, was a pain in the ass.

I have been in this game professionally for a long, LONG time, and I see laziness in AFKAN’s work

If I didn’t, AFKAN would be the only writer in history who never did lazy writing.
I wouldn’t make this objection if I didn’t think AFKAN’s points were worth it.

Someone sent me those two words.

I think that by now you know how to use that phrase. I want some responses on this. I want YOU to explain how to use it and why it is so valuable to us.

I want seminar members to start explaining BASICS here. AFKAN needs to cut back on the verbiage and go into Movements Past in a tight thinking way. A new member whom I asked to register said in passing that Rushton has to stay with some political correctness in order to do his job. I want him toe explain that. Each person has a ROLE to play in our movement, Dr. Duke on Jews, Pat Buchanan says things that only he can say, but that also requires his remaining a national columnist. I had to be disgustingly mainline when I made my living in politics.

This does not make it all right, but it is a necessity we who regard this as a war on many fronts must see and analyze clearly, and I am tired of doing all the analyzing. It is WORK tying down the very specific and subtle points here, and it is time YOU started doing it YOURSELF.

I also need people to tell me whether I am making this CLEAR. Too often my statements about what I need from YOU get no comments at all. But that is a major portion of my job here, and I need to know you are paying attention.

AFKAN,

When it comes to “attempts at organization” there are no slights of hand, color TV notwithstanding.

The German people, a people with a hardwired native competence, were saddled with governments that lacked sobriety and proportionality during the first half of the 20th century (they were not alone in this among the peoples of the world at the time). These governments were full of folly, being organized by conceited personalities, who tended to confuse their own careers with the destiny of their of their own nation, eventually falling pray to self-created myths and their delusional millennialism.

Nevertheless, the German people went on being natively competent both during the long trajectory of their ruin and afterwards when they astonishingly and rapidly repaired things (which you would expect of such a competent people).

But at the end of the day (May 1945) their successive one-off governments of folly did one thing supremely competently: It very competently handed off the baton of its millennialist folly to Political Correctness, a force that has been running wholeheartedly with it ever since.

That’s because refuges in Wordism and millennialism have staying power, seemingly with us perennially. And when Politically Correct zealots return (yet again, again, and again endlessly) to their favorite haunt of denouncing Nazism, to me at least, it is certainly a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

It never occurs to the anti-white whites (in the delusional millennialism they share with the very thing they denounce) that morally they are no friends of nonwhite people. And believe it or not, it has occurred to many of the more thoughtful coloreds, and other nonwhites, that perhaps the cult of Martin Luther King, the hordes of anti-whites whites, and the whole integrationist Politically Correct “civil rights” trajectory has, in fact, worked against their real long-term interests.

This is because there is no substitute for sobriety and proportionality and realism in life. There is also no substitute for the related attitude of calm and poise that goes along with it. It is this attitude that puts race relations to rights, and encourages people to organize their affairs and relations in a wholesome and realistic way. This encourages a responsible reining in of the hotheads, the millenialists, the BELIEVERS, and the (mentally and emotionally) disproportionate and fearful of every stripe.

But bear this in mind: Once you SEE, once you really have accurate visibility, there remains the greatest barrier to “sight” of all, and that barrier is the fulcrum of interpersonal trust (or lack of it) that underlies all relations.

There is no “gaining visibility” on the issue of trust. There is no “SEEING”. When it comes to trusting others, you can only “believe”.

And that is why I believe nonwhite people want the white race to succeed and fill the roles of “creators”, “governors”, and “anchors” for the world that nature seems to have assigned for us.

This view is greatly at odds with the views of the Politically Correct millenialists. And this view is also greatly at odds with most of the opponents of Political Correctness (who in my view are for the most part delusional millenialists themselves).

Accordingly, we white nationalists have a row to hoe. And that row is hoed one step at a time, patiently, in proportionality, in sobriety, in realism, with an attitude of calm bearing and poise (especially toward the challenges of our adversaries).

That is how I think it is done.

Back in the 1970s an Arkansas Republican made one of those obviously true observations that gets people into trouble. His party had just won a big election and he said that it was because Israel was in a crisis at the time, and the Jewish money that would have gone to the liberal candidate had been diverted to that vital campaign for Israel.

This was the sort of exposure of the obvious that REALLY infuriates the establishment because it so obviously true and it makes the Jewish outlook so obvious. I haven’t seen anybody make the equivalent point about our post-Communist world, so I will make it.

While the Communist Empire was around a major share of the money and power of the media and the left was dedicated to fighting its battles. The desperate, giant last-ditch fight to end the Strategic Defense Initiative and Reagan’s ratcheting up the killing pressure on the Soviets took up a major share of the resources of the left. Those resources have not disappeared, so like that Arkansas Republican, there is room for lone heretic to ask where they have gone.

I, alone, have pointed out repeatedly where a major portion of those resources have gone. I have noted that the moment the Soviet Empire collapsed, every single leftist switched overnight from a socialist to an environmentalist. No one else seems to have noticed this BASIC rule.

The situation for leftists is a lot like that of the Jews if Israel disappeared. Their ideological homeland is gone. But the goals are the same. Leftists want the priesthood of Political Correctness to rule. When they lost the Professor-rule in Moscow, they instantly switched to Kyoto.

Jewish strategy is equally consistent. Like Emma Lazarus, who wrote the words on the Statue of Liberty and was a lifelong dedicated Zionist, Jews want 1) to destroy all other identities, and 2) to make t Jewish identity the only legitimate one. Dershowitz is as obvious about this today as Lazarus was well over a century ago.

Dershowitz has Lazarus’s consistent theme, 1) he is constantly worried about the disappearance of Jews and 2) he is totally dedicated to ridding the earth of the white race. He makes comments about how blacks and whites don’t kiss enough on television. What is enormously frustrating to me is that anti-Semites do not point to this obvious reality, but keep presenting Jews as supernatural Satans, which is precisely the argument they have centuries of practice countering.

The fact is that getting rid of the Soviet Empire gives us a clear shot at our enemies. I had to hold my nose and join with respectable conservatives to fight the ideological homeland of our enemies. I seem to be the only person on our side who has NOTICED this fundamental reality has changed.

In the real world of our real war, the role of respectable conservatives has not changed in the post Communist era. Their function has always been to divert attention from the real struggle, but in the case of the nuclear-powered Soviets they were actually facing a REAL enemy, a critical part of the enemy left.

Like the leftists who have morphed into environmentalists, the respectable right has had to find another way to do the same thing WITHOUT the Soviet Empire. They have morphed into anti-Arabs under the banner that we must not be divided by race in the face of the Real Enemy.

My point is that this is the basic REALITY. But no one MENTIONS it.

In the new world we must cut the old crap and take a new look at the old reality. In AFKAN’s “Movement Past” leftists who were peaceniks were still our enemies. In the new reality leftists who are peaceniks are potential allies. But what is critical here is that we must look upon this, not as a Revelation, but as a simple reality of power politics.

Less tomes, more logic.

We have an argument that is easy to accept, rather than a battle for Revealing the Truth about the outright pro-Communist efforts of the left.

Simple logic, bringing people to simple reality, is our BUGS specialty.

You went ahead and took over the seminar here, which is my biggest ambition for BUGS.

Let me cite one example in these comments of our difference from others. It is only one.

Not the least benefit of being part of the only real seminar on earth is learning again what a seminar or a moot IS. The exchanges in the Tim comments show a group of equals going at each other but as a TEAM.

This is a very critical distinction. If you read these statements, you will see something unique. This is not an ARGUMENT with each person trying to justify himself.

Simmons makes a statement about Tim that would totally sidetrack all discussion on Stormfront. Instead of the SF, “God, how DARE you accuse me of that?!” Tim used it as a basis for some hard thinking. In other words, Tim’s reaction was not to fight back because Simmons was not being diplomatic.

This is two separate points. First, Tim did not RUSH back to counterattack. He thought about what Simmons had brought up to make it a part of a CONTRIBUTION here. Second, Tim did not regard his role her as just arguing with Simmons. Simmons was not being diplomatic; he was making his CONTRIBUTION as he saw it.

That is what separates a TEAM, or Moot, approach from the stuff we are used to and are trying to GROW out of.

Put in basic terms, we regard ourselves not as debating individuals in competition but as a TEAM trying to get at the TRUTH. We have plenty of tolerance for a lack of diplomacy or bad examples of the sort I often use, but we are mutually the enemies of NONSENSE.

Brilliant posts Dave. Especially the previous one about minorities vying to stay near whites. I have read all about the riots in South Africa and seen the grisly photos. There are not enough whites to go around. I am all for cloning BOB’s.

Most Americans only watch the news on cable. That is changing with the internet. I believe a surprising number of Americans are becoming more savvy about what is going on around the globe. This is only natural as you get your news online. They are turning to the internet for news in shocking numbers.

When your neighborhood gets destroyed by Mexicans you become more aware about the wonders of diversity. That is only natural. Then you do a search online and find out there are plenty of budding racists just like you. On the internet, we are never alone. If racism were a stock, I would go long. Stormfront Futures.

— Tim

I am SO glad Tim did some THINKING about the world WE have to operate in. Tim is the OPPOSITE of the torchlight procession crap so many in SF concentrate on. This is a brilliant summation of our present situation and what WE must look to.

It is depressing to see young people waste their lives talking about the Glory Days of the Third Reich.

Yes I said depressing, not scary. It is natural for frustrated young leftists to have pictures of Che Guevara and for frustrated young pro-whites to carry around swastikas. Getting all excited about that is as pointless as bitching about the Law of Gravity. When dealing with young people, I don’t get all het up screaming I’m not a Nazi. Healthy young people grab the most extreme thing they can find.

But when it becomes an obsession, it is a DEPRESSING waste of precious time. Young people can understand the flow of technology in a way that is hard for old guys like me. They need to USE that understanding.

What is the REAL lesson we can learn from Hitler? In fact, what is the REAL lesson we can learn from Lenin? Their ideologies fitted into 1918 Russia and 1920s Germany. That is not what we have to learn from them. The real lesson they have for us is that of POLITICAL GENIUSES.

Let’s look at what Hitler did POLITICALLY. He took Germany from the established leadership of giants like Hindenburg and Ludendorf. How did he do that? For one thing, though he was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, he went to the place where he could get lots of Germans to LISTEN to him. Hitler did his big work, not in the torchlight parades which RESULTED from his earlier work, but in the BEER HALLS where the hard-drinking Hindenburgs and Ludendorfs would never have set foot.

In other words, Hitler looked around and found the VEHICLE he needed. Our vehicle, as Tim so brilliantly points out, is the explosion of technology in the NEW century. In a young person’s lifetime today, the changes Tim describes will seem as primitive as crystal radios did in the age of television.

All the old communications monopolies are becoming as outdated as Western Union. Genetic engineering will determine the future of human evolution. So when young people OBSESS over torchlight parades and “Let’s get out on the streets and FIGHT” it is just plain depressing.

Like the torchlight parades, we’ll get out there and fight when we’re READY. In the meantime, the WORK is in today’s beer halls like the Internet.