Bob had a question in his reply, and I’d like to take a shot at addressing it.
Bob wrote:
His second point is harder to dismiss so easily. Blacks were not considered PART of the Southern Nation, but the Southern Nation’s “way of life” depended on blacks. I am still mulling over that one.
In reply:
I suspect “the Southern Nation’s ‘way of life’” was based on a feudal social order, and a feudal economic system.
The average White Man in the South actually outnumbered the slaves, and had it worse than the slaves. After all, they had no “right” to protection, as the feudal Lords OWED those who were in fealty to them.
So, the Southern Nation – essentially, the transplanted Elite of London, many of whom journeyed to London annually – remained a feudal social order, and those who favored the War of the Northern Aggression looked at the black slaves as luxuries that were in the way of their imposition of an Industrial Age sensibility on a feudal, agrarian social order.
Ironically, Lincoln’s (Prussian!) policies – redemption of the slaves with money from the sale of Western lands, and their shipment back to Africa – would have worked in the South’s interests far more than Calhoun could ever have imagined.
— AFKAN
#1 by Pain on 07/18/2008 - 4:39 pm
I put this in General Comments, but it relates here, too:
Genocide
Below is a link to an example of what happens when a creep is rightly accused of being a genocidist. You will note in the posts before the one linked below, he completely controlled the discussion by accusing Southerners of this and that evil, and the Southerners spent all their energies defending the South.
When the creep was accused of genocide, he fled; the conversation has returned to normal and everyone there saw how it happened: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=667#comment-169036
#2 by Bob on 07/18/2008 - 11:53 pm
Pain, I can’t find the genocide brought up. Did I miss it or was it censored out?
#3 by shari on 07/19/2008 - 8:32 am
Yes, They saw how it happened, but then they paid no attention at all. From their comments at least. Well, who knows?
#4 by Pain on 07/19/2008 - 1:29 pm
Bob-
Under “Honestly, Abe!” it’s comment #115. Click here.
Shari-
One person did comment that the Leftist was out-argued:
Following comments correctly identify him as a Leftist instead of a Conservative and confidently critique him instead of ineptly defending themselves. One comment was openly racial.
If I am right on the use of the charge of genocide, then it is an example of leadership through clarity.
#5 by shari on 07/19/2008 - 4:42 pm
Pain, I think you were right with the charge of genocide. It revealed not only a leftist, but a very CONSCIOUS anti-white racist. I guess that is what I thought was ignored.
#6 by Pain on 07/20/2008 - 4:05 pm
Shari-
Yes. Here’s my thinking. If you feed a child a plate of broccoli, he says “Yuck , Broccoli” and pushes the plate away.
However, if you chop it up and serve it with a lot of cheese and bacon in a baked potato, he says, “Mmm, yumm” and eats it.
Then the next time he sees broccoli, he thinks that maybe it ain’t so bad.
The Southerners there were very happy to see the smelly Leftist turn tail and run away screaming insults. Those who matter will remember that and how anti-genocide works.
By allowing the conversation to return to Robert E. Lee and Southern belles free from Leftists, you are giving them ice cream.
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The other thing to remember when using the “sugar” technique is that you can use another pseudonym to be a bad guy. You can be both mom and dad. You can be the one who mixes the broccoli in with the goodies, or you can be the one that orders your kid to eat the broccoli now!
Know when to be subtle and by the time you write out the whole mantra again, they will say “I’ve always believed that.”
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By the way, I thought Bob would gloat over planting mantra seeds like that…
#7 by shari on 07/21/2008 - 4:00 pm
Pain, I don’t know if your right or not. I sense that the young men there are NOT children, but lack leadership. They THINK they are getting leadership, but they are not. I know you don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but I think Simmons idea of ASKING questions is good, although he doesn’t seem to get any response. Maybe if more questions were asked? I know that I have already stepped in it.
#8 by Pain on 07/21/2008 - 10:08 pm
Shari, I think they are still afraid of being called a naziwhowantstokillsixmillion Jews. Or that if they came out of the closet, the SPLC would shut them down. They want to be halfway respectable. Sometimes it takes gentle questioning, sometimes exploding with the Mantra and waiting for Fleming to give his usual speech about angry young white men.
#9 by shari on 07/22/2008 - 11:28 am
Pain, I know. It’s just that we are so desperate for real men, that I don’t know if trying to baby them is the thing.
#10 by Pain on 07/23/2008 - 6:39 pm
There are two kinds of people in this world:
Those who with one gun and one shot control a situation
and
Those who sit it out and say how they would have done it better.
#11 by shari on 07/23/2008 - 7:46 pm
I’m sure that you are a very good shot.