Amending the mantra: The question of defining "white countries"
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02/07/2015 at 10:31 am #100248j pParticipant
People on BUGS keep saying “the goal is to make white genocide something that is being discussed”. I firmly agree.
But in order for white genocide to be discussed, we must first show that we are willing to DISCUSS it. Not that we are gonna just scream “anti white!!” at people for holding the slightest dissenting opinion. That is not a discussion..
I’m not even talking about people with anti white opinions, just opinions that slightly differ from the BUGS orthodoxy. Opinions that accept the premise of white genocide, but differ on specifics.
02/07/2015 at 10:32 am #100249JasonParticipantJP, we don’t talk future policies. It’s nonsense at this point. We want ONE thing: Establish that White Genocide is happening and have a public discussion of it. Period. What will be done about it isn’t something we can even talk about now.
So no one wants to “debate” whether a person should be considered anti-white because of this-or-that policy position about some speculative future. Quit worrying about getting “followers”. We are spreading memes, this is not a political party and we are not looking for members.
Where are you posting the Mantra by the way?
02/07/2015 at 10:32 am #100250Secret SquirrelParticipant@jp
We ain’t discussing policy, because we don’t have the power to discuss it. You are too scared to make a video and you want to make deals with the anti-White regime? Get real. If you are Pro White you are a fool. You ain’t though.02/07/2015 at 10:34 am #100251j pParticipantWho here said anything about white people being morally obligated to leave Canada and the USA? You are putting words in my mouth and attacking a strawman.
You are a troll, Secret Squirrel, pure and simple.
Jason: I’ve posted the mantra on a bunch of youtube comments threads, and news article comments sections and on facebook. I’ve posted it at least a few dozen times.
02/07/2015 at 10:35 am #100252j pParticipant“So no one wants to “debate” whether a person should be considered anti-white because of this-or-that policy position about some speculative future. Quit worrying about getting “followers”. We are spreading memes, this is not a political party and we are not looking for members.”
Finally an actual discussion.
Okay, so if we’re not looking for members, what are we looking for? Isn’t the point of spreading ideas to get people to agree with us?
02/07/2015 at 10:41 am #100253Secret SquirrelParticipant“Who here said anything about white people being morally obligated to leave Canada and the USA? You are putting words in my mouth and attacking a strawman”
Okay I misread that.
“Okay, so if we’re not looking for members, what are we looking for? Isn’t the point of spreading ideas to get people to agree with us?”
We are spreading the White Genocide message. Got it? You take the Mantra and put it under people’s noses. Its not rocket science.
You want to have a discussion and make plans which you will never follow yourself, you know where to go.
02/07/2015 at 10:45 am #100254JasonParticipantJP you’ve been here 7 months you have posted the Mantra a few dozen whole times! LOL. Many of us have posted a dozen times a DAY.
JP, read the articles. Bob has written extensively about the difference between Membership groups and what we do, I can’t spoon feed it to you any better than he has. If you had been paying attention you would have seen it several times by now.
And, if you are for real (which I totally doubt), and you had posted the Mantra 5 times a day (as requested!), at this point you would have over 1,000 posts under your belt along with the give and take for each one. Then you wouldn’t even have all these questions.
Your discussion is a waste of time for us. If you are sincere, which I doubt, post the darn Mantra over the next 6 months and deal with the responses. And read the Bob’s articles.
02/07/2015 at 10:46 am #100255JasonParticipantJP, have you even been through Beefcake’s bootcamp, assuming you are sincere. If you don’t get the Mantra, go listen to that.
02/07/2015 at 10:49 am #100256j pParticipantAs for the mantra, I agree with bombarding people with it. Pushing it in their faces. Spreading the message. Absolutely. All I’m saying is we shouldn’t call people anti white if they agree with the fundamental message that white genocide is happening and that it is wrong, but if they disagree on certain specifics in regards to what the solution should be.
In fact, if BUGS is against the idea of talking about solutions right now, then defining people as “anti white” for being against the hypothetical deportations of non whites from say, California, would be implying that we’ve agreed on a solution (that non whites should be deported from California).
So therefore it’s against the principles of BUGS to call someone an anti white for being against such hypothetical solutions. Because it implies that we’ve agreed on these solutions in the first place.
What makes someone anti white is if they support the policies that have come into existence (mass immigration and forced assimilation into all white countries). It doesn’t make them anti white if their solution differs from the “BUGS acceptable solution” because really there should be no such thing as a BUGS acceptable solution right now because that shouldn’t even be on the table as BUGS policy. It should just be about spreading the message, not about condemning people as anti white for disagreeing with a hypothetical solution that BUGS members may or may not end up supporting if it ever comes to that.
02/07/2015 at 10:52 am #100257j pParticipantSo for instance, it would be acceptable to say “If you support the policies that have been implemented to make America non-white, mass immigration and forced assimilation, then you are an anti-white”. I agree with that.
But what I disagree with is if they are talking about future policy, and you call them an anti white for advocating a future policy that would not lead to all of America becoming a white nation again.
02/07/2015 at 11:22 am #100259Secret SquirrelParticipantWhites can call anyone they like anti-White, as the mood takes them.
02/07/2015 at 2:50 pm #100230JasonParticipantGenocide is genocide. There is no magic plot of dirt where Genocide can’t happen. White Genocide happens to be worldwide, but it would be genocide even if it happened in just one place Whites have made their home.
There are no serious people who agree White Genocide is happening in Europe but not in North America. The animal literally doesn’t exist. It’s a made up con. On Paltalk, the anti-White MarriageEquality tries to play the same game.
02/07/2015 at 2:51 pm #100233JasonParticipantThat is exactly the argument that MarriageEquality makes on PalTalk. He will say he “understands” that Europe might want to stay White, but the US was “never a White country”. But he is a known anti-White. In other rooms, however, he makes it clear he is for White Genocide worldwide. Everyone who makes that argument is dishonest.
02/07/2015 at 2:51 pm #100236JasonParticipantThat is exactly the argument that MarriageEquality makes on PalTalk. He will say he “understands” that Europe might want to stay White, but that the US was “never a White country”. Yet he is a known anti-White. It’s a stale line that anti-whites were using 5 years ago.
02/07/2015 at 6:13 pm #100264j pParticipantI’m not an anti-white. And I’m not referring to people who say “white genocide isn’t happening in North America”. It obviously is. I’m not referring to people who say “America was never a white country”, because it obviously was. I’m not referring to people defending the policies of mass immigration and forced assimilation in North America either.
I’m referring people who say that restoring ALL formerly white countries on earth to white countries through mass deportation of non whites would be either a. unfeasible and/or b. morally wrong.
Also as I said, Brazil used to be a white country, so did South Africa, and white genocide has obviously taken place in both of these countries, so by this definition you guys would all be anti-white if you don’t support making Brazil and South Africa white countries again.
Either way I fail see how calling people “anti white” when they are willing to agree with us on our basic premise, rather than engaging in dialogue with them, is a constructive angle.
02/07/2015 at 7:56 pm #100265Secret SquirrelParticipantYour basic premise is Whites must go back to Europe. Anti-Whites in Europe’s basic premise is, Europe is for Everyone or you go to JAIL.
Get real, anti-White!
02/08/2015 at 12:15 am #100266ElectricParticipantWhy are you guys still interacting with this fool? We’ve already said, our ONLY job is to seed memes… NOT to discuss policy. H’es either anti-White or a typical stormfronter (All talk, no action) Why are you guys wasting time with him?
02/08/2015 at 5:25 am #100267JasonParticipantElectric, you are, of course, right.
02/08/2015 at 6:12 am #100268Benjamin NewellsParticipantj p, we don’t do discussions. We do propaganda. We use repeater terms (anti-white) and slogans to beat our opponents into the ground. It’s psychological warfare. We’re manipulating and taking control of the social situation. Peer pressure is power. It’s the only thing that works.
If you have doubts about the mantra and our methods and approach, then I suggest you take the time to read Bob’s articles and absorb his thinking. Otherwise you can go to stormfront and play WN SimCity to your heart’s content. Discussions about policy will come when the public acknowledges White Genocide.
Anyone who says ‘America should remain non-White’ or ‘It’s too hard to deport all the non-Whites’ is taking our energy and weakening our public image out in the battlefield – even if they acknowledge White Genocide. But since you have no experience out in the field you might not appreciate nor even understand this.
02/08/2015 at 9:24 am #100269Ice KnightParticipantJP, next time you come across one of these oh so reasonable pro-Whites that are against White GENOCIDE in Europe but sort of support it in America, post the link up on BUGS and let the swarm deal with them.
I have come across such people – upon further questioning they all turned out to be anti-White…who would have guessed! LOL
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