How to speak to whites with mixed race spouses and children?
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07/25/2014 at 12:58 pm #95051
Howdy, fellow pro-whites. I have a question about an issue that many of us can probably relate to on a personal level. Many of us have white friends and family members who have a spouse of a different race, and/or mixed race children. How are we supposed to convey our message to people for whom it’ll touch on such a personal note? How do I talk about white genocide and the preservation of our race with these people without sending the message that their children are an abomination or anything like that? How do I reach out to these people when they inevitably start taking it personally and start asking me whether I consider their children or their marriage an abomination?
Should we say, for instance, that white people are being forced into conditions that will lead to race mixing everywhere, and nowhere, not even Sweden or France, are allowed to remain places for the preservation of the white race? Which would mean conceding that allowing race mixing to blend out or partially blend out the gene pool would be acceptible but only in certain white countries and not all. But would the implication of that message, which would concede that race mixing may be acceptible in some white countries but not all, or in limited amounts in some white countries, be contrary to the principles of BUGS? What is the official position of BUGS on this matter?
07/25/2014 at 1:00 pm #95054j p: You are obviously new to Whitakeronline – How much time and effort have you put in to READING the POSTS which Bob has written for over 15 years here?
07/25/2014 at 3:00 pm #95057One step at a time. You first start out by copying and pasting minis onto Youtube. You could find them over at the “BUGS buddy Web” or at the “Mini Mantras” on the right hand side of your screen.
It would help you a lot because it shows you how to respond to an anti-Whites, once you have done this for a certain amount of time you will start getting the hang of it… eventually it will become instinctual to you, but you have to practice first.
It’s amazing because it opens your eyes up to so much you never thought of before. Good luck 🙂
07/25/2014 at 3:33 pm #95058Though I’ll have to admit, it’s complicated to go back in the previous posts. Really tedious. Couldn’t we implement a search fonction by month or year ?
07/25/2014 at 3:49 pm #95059I’ve read some of Whitaker’s posts and listened to some of the Beefcake Bootcamp podcasts. Thing is, there are so many of these posts that it’s hard to find answers pertaining toward specific questions. Like, for instance, the aforementioned question of how to talk to white people with mixed race families.
07/25/2014 at 4:08 pm #95060Well it depends on how you want to go about it. Are the mixed race families justifying White genocide?
“Your personal choices or preferences does not justify the genocide of an entire racial group.
You’re not demanding that every and only Black countries get flooded with millions of non-Blacks and forced assimilation until Black children are minorities. Youre only demanding these genocidal policies on ALL and ONLY White countries”
If you’re just having a discussion with them, you talk to them how you would talk to any other White audiences.
07/25/2014 at 4:19 pm #95061But how would I address it if they ask, “if white countries are for white people only then where should me and my family live?”
07/25/2014 at 5:11 pm #95062That decision would be made by our leaders, ALL we want is an end to White genocide and a right to a future existence like every single other racial group gets. Why do you think “reservation systems” exist? So the “native” Americans could preserve their future existence. It wouldn’t be such an issue if they’d stop targeting us with genocide.
Tell them this.
“Those decisions are for our leaders to make, all we want is an end to White genocide and a right to a future existence for our children, denying us that basic right to a future existence would be genocide under Article II
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;”
Then ask them ‘Do you support White genocide?” Remember you’re the interrogator, you ask the questions. Answering all of their questions would lead to tailgating and would put them in control on the conversation. You don’t want that.
I was having another discussion with my dad and he asked that exact same question. I think it should be addressed in the BUGS buddy web.
07/25/2014 at 6:02 pm #95064I haven’t read all the articles that Bob has written over the past 15 years, so I’m not exactly sure of what Bob’s position is on the subject. Here are a couple of responses that I thought of:
We don’t seek to eliminate all mixed-race countries. Why do you seek to eliminate all all-White countries?
All of Latin America is for mixed-race people. Why can’t we have any all-White countries?
I’m not sure whether these answers are BUGS correct, so criticism is welcome. I do know, however, that Beefcake has said that there could still be some mixed-race areas for people who wanted that. I assume that he meant in separate countries.
My personal opinion is that no non-White or mixed-race person, and no one with non-White/mixed-race children should be allowed in any White country, except as a tourist, diplomat, or a small number necessary to conduct international trade, and perhaps a few students and visiting athletes. I would not make any compromises or concessions on that point. Beyond that, I don’t believe that the United States will survive intact, so separate non-White/mixed-race countries North of the Rio Grande are a possibility. Europe should be 100% White.
07/26/2014 at 7:14 am #95069“But how would I address it if they ask, “if white countries are for white people only then where should me and my family live?””
At bugs we make our point about White Genocide. Period. If someone were to ask this question in response to your point about White Genocide, then you need to get them to acknowledge that White Genocide is happening. You have FAILED if you don’t get them to acknowledge that White Genocide is happening. That’s what a bugser does. Our job is to redirect anything an anti-white says BACK to White Genocide and their anti-whitism. If they do acknowledge that White Genocide is happening, then you could answer their question but only do this if they are close friends/family. It’s pretty obvious that mass foreign race immigration is one of the steps of genocide. Therefore one of the steps to end White Genocide is to repatriate majority of non-whites. That’s all I will say because it’s not our job to speculate on what the changes to policies will be like.
“How do I reach out to these people when they inevitably start taking it personally and start asking me whether I consider their children or their marriage an abomination?”
If you are seeking to “convince” a White anti-white into getting out of an mixed-race relationship or something of that sort then forget about using the mantra to “wake them up”. The mantra is designed to point out the obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against White people and designed to point out anti-whitism and we repeat our points over and over again (Horus calls this “Practical Politics”). The mantra is for “unblocking” anti-white thought in people who appreciate their own people/have loyalty to their own people in some form or another and want to preserve that. The mantra is not for convincing someone to appreciate their own people. There are some people who have no loyalty to their own group. A lot of these people end up intermarrying with non-whites. The best you can achieve using the mantra on them is putting pressure on them to change their views on the conditions imposed on White countries/people. But the mantra won’t teach them loyalty.
You’re going to have to be more specific about what it is that you want to achieve for me to help you any further.
07/26/2014 at 7:27 am #95070JP, Benjamin is right. We are here to point out the crime of White Genocide. Period.
JP, are YOU against White Genocide and do you agree that the number one issue is to force a public discussion on it?
We aren’t here to put forward policies or talk about how some imaginary future state would be run – that’s what Stormfront is for! They waste years on that stuff.
What’s odd is that Tibetans are never asked this question. No one ever worries over how to “address” Tibetans who have married non-Tibetans. As if that has to be dealt with before protesting the genocide in Tibet.
07/26/2014 at 7:58 am #95071Jason, I’ve now edited my post a few times.
07/26/2014 at 8:25 am #95072Benjamin wrote:
The mantra is for “unblocking” anti-white thought in people who appreciate their own people/have loyalty to their own people in some form or another and want to preserve that. The mantra is not for convincing someone to appreciate their own people. There are some people who have no loyalty to their own group.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some people who were anti-White or lacked any loyalty to their own people who were turned around by the Mantra.
But Benjamin and Jason are right, your task is to make the point that White genocide is happening, not that race-mixing is an abomination or that they will have to move. You don’t have to convince them; just make the point, make it repeatedly, and don’t back down. You may be able to disarm them. By that I mean that they will no longer feel confident about promoting non-White immigration and will remain silent on the issue.
07/26/2014 at 12:30 pm #95077“But how would I address it if they ask, “if white countries are for white people only then where should me and my family live?””
We do not have the power to make policy. All we can do is point out that White Genocide is Evil.
I can only speak for myself, but I would like lands set aside for White people. So if Whites want to move to these lands, they can do so without being chased down by “Diversity”. And Whites that don’t like Whites, can live in multicultural lands with my blessing. It is about offering people a real choice and letting them make that choice, without intimidation or harassment.
As for who is going to pay for it all, that question should be directed to those responsible for White Genocide, since they will be paying reparations for a long, long, time.
07/27/2014 at 6:25 pm #95099What I mean is, when you are in a circle of people, and some of them or one of them has mixed race children, it adds a personal element to the entire debate.
What do you say if then you’re confronted and asked “do you think my mixed race children are an abomination?” I know you can turn it and around and ask “do you think the existence of white countries is an abomination?” but when people make such a personal accusation that applies to their own children or their own friend’s children, you can only dodge the question for so long.
Or you could ask “so, because you have mixed race children, that means that white people shouldn’t be free to have their own countries anywhere on earth?”. Maybe that would be the best response. You don’t have to get into specifics about what countries should be for whites, or whether certain white countries (ie America) could be divided between whites and diversity, just express the basic right of white people to have their own countries.
07/27/2014 at 8:25 pm #95100Whether mixed-race children are an abomination or not has nothing to do with whether White genocide is happening or not. They’re really two separate questions.
To think of the matter abstractly, in a chemistry course I took in college, the professor told us that, once we used a spoon to mix chemicals, we must never put the spoon back into a container of a pure chemical because that would contaminate the batch. He wasn’t saying that we couldn’t mix the chemicals; in fact, we were required to mix the chemicals. He was telling us not to contaminate the pure batches.
So saying that genocide is wrong is not the same as saying that a mixed-race child is an abomination. However, most people who oppose White genocide probably would find a mixed-race child an abomination.
So, if someone asks you whether you think their child is an abomination, you can answer, “That has nothing to do with it. We simply want to end White genocide,” and you would be perfectly correct, just as whether mixing the chemicals is an abomination has nothing to do with keeping the batches pure.
07/27/2014 at 9:16 pm #95101“What do you say if then you’re confronted and asked “do you think my mixed race children are an abomination?””
Response:
Are you really using your children to justify the Genocide of the entire White race?Your question is just a slippery way of calling any White person, that objects to White Genocide, a “racist”.
No one does this to any non-White group that objects to their Genocide. They only do it to White people.
Your relative is an anti-White manipulative sociopath. How do you put up with that?
07/28/2014 at 12:02 am #95104Its a rude and disrespectful question and it tells us exactly what kind of person they are. Since they believe White children are an abomination and will not allow any place for them to exist in future, they believe everyone else thinks like they do.
Ask the same rude and disrespectful question back to them and see how they like it:
“Why do YOU think White children are an abomination?”
07/28/2014 at 12:09 am #95105Secret Squirrel said:
“Are you really using your children to justify the Genocide of the entire White race?”
Now that is a powerful statement and the right attitude to have. Don’t let them put YOU on the defensive. We are the interrogators. We make the accusations. THEY are the ones who have to answer for their crimes.
07/28/2014 at 12:53 am #95106Yes Jason, that line is all that is needed. You just say it and shut up. Let the anti-White stew on it.
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