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Yeah I agree, it is a noble idea and I support helping White victims, but it is basically News & Jews approach.  The way to help Whites in the long run is to expose White Genocide through the Mantra.

To cure any illness, one must treat the cause of that illness not mask the symptoms.

Anti-white terror is a biproduct, stay on message.

@ Justawhitemom  – yes a case can certainly be argued that the Genocide convention parts a) b) d) and e) are also being violated, but the issue is much more clouded and often involves individual cases, hence it gives the anti-Whites much more room to attack. For example “Part a) Killing members of the group” is really News and Jews territory.

“Part c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part” is a perfect fit for the Mantra message of mass immigration and FORCED assimilation in ALL White countries and ONLY White countries.

My feelings are that whilst we are establishing the consistent message we need to keep it as simple and obvious as possible, hence I only tend to use Part c).  Only one act needs to be violated for it to be classified as Genocide, so I choose the easiest one.

Once the Mantra is fully established maybe we could introduce discussion of parts a) b) d) and e) but that said I’d be happy enough to just leave it to the lawyers to chew over at the tribunals 😉

Just a White mom

This is  the sort of Anti-White reply (from experience) you’d receive, if you don’t believe me go live on youtube with that sort of stuff and see what happens.

“I suppose you think white men don’t commit rape ? Your hatred makes me sick. Yeah like ‘white countries’ where so perfect. You ignore the rape and murders commited by your precious ‘whites’ and simply blame immigrants for all your problems. Racist bitch”

You guessed right, it is tail gaiting

I personally would have used in the example is “Genocide is defined under the 1948 Genocide Convention.The attempt to destroy, in whole or in part, EVERY White country through 3rd World immigration and ‘assimilation’ is GENOCIDE. ‘Anti-racist’ is a codeword for Anti-White”

Just make your point, don’t argue, just bludgeon them to death with ‘It’s GENOCIDE’ and ‘Anti-racist’ is a codeword for Anti-White

NEVER GO ‘defensive’ EVER !!!!!!

CP and Dungeoneer,

Thanks again for responding.

CP you are exactly right.  I have tried it and gotten responses very similar to the one you modeled.  The thing is that I think the people who say that are anti-whites.  They are not the white and normals we are trying to reach.

Your mock anti-white response completely negates the idea of sections a and b altogether.  If “your own men rape and murder you sometimes too” is a defense to genocide under sections a and b then there is no reason to have them in the Convention because that will always be true in human populations.  I think people instinctively know this and that is why that tu quoque defense is less effective when arguing crime statistics in the context of the Genocide Convention.

I can tell you that a couple of times now I have panicked moderators and gotten myself banned using all sections of the Convention together.

@ Just a White mom,

If an Anti-White wants to talk about White criminals, or you lose focus and slip into tailgaiting into crime stats this is how you can recover,

“In Black countries all the thugs, rapists and murderers are black

In Asian countries all the thugs, rapists and murderers are asian

ONLY in White countries are we expected to import thugs, rapists and murderers from the 3rd World so 3rd Worlders can assualt rape and murder us in our own countries

The attempt to destroy, in whole or in part, EVERY White country through 3rd World immigration and ‘assimilation’ is GENOCIDE

‘Anti-racist’ is a codeword for Anti-White

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Maybe you should change your callsign to NotjustaWhitemom 😉

Here’s a crime stat that may be useful: 100% of White Nations are subject to genocide through massive non-White immigration and forced assimilation.

Justawhitemom writes:
“…but there are none-the-less those people who will not see a genocide without physical violence.”

Bob writes:
“The message of BUGS is that white genocide is nonviolent. That is a hard sell. So it is MUCH easier to go with the tide and talk about the actual killing of whites. And this is exactly the kind of slippery slope it takes constant vigilance to avoid.

BEWARE when it gets easy!”
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/12/09/no-piggy-backing/

Justawhitemom, after “White Genocide” has been repeated enough, with our simple explanations of it as massive immigration and forced assimilation, it will seem self-evident. That will take a good while!
I’m sure that Southerners didn’t buy the absurd R-word at first either!
http://whitegenocideproject.com/white-genocide-are-you-from-dixie/

I immediately loved your idea, a LOT, but then had to remind myself that it’s not for here. Unfortunately we have our hands full, and can’t do things like this that might be a help even to us if someone else would get off their butts and do them. As you mentioned elsewhere, it would be so useful with some anti-whites, at some points, to challenge their hatred of whites by offering them a concrete opportunity to help whites. But even that would have it’s dangers for us in possibly diverting our focus.

I agree entirely with iceknight’s very clear comment 2/25/2013 at 2:07 pm.

Cleric, I think your suggestion 2/25/2013 at 7:54 pm that whitemom liked so much is okay only if you change this:

“The attempt to destroy, in whole or in part, EVERY White country through 3rd World immigration and ‘assimilation’ is GENOCIDE”

to something like this:

“But White Genocide is being carried out not principally by violence, but by flooding ALL White countries and ONLY White countries with non-whites and forcing Whites to integrate with them so as to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry and be blended out of existence.”

Otherwise the strength of your statements that precede it will obliterate that you’ve changed course.

What’s happened to Gavin? He’s the main one who patiently changed all my proud tailgating posts to Mantra posts until eventually I got it, and he was very good.

Apologies for the length of this.

@ HD,

(a) Your suggested change makes the post 56 letters too long for youtube.

I’ve never encountered difficulties with how I phrased it, your suggestion ‘“But White Genocide is being carried out not principally by violence’ seems a little too like civil conversation, it almost sounds like we’re trying to convince the Anti-White.

We’re not here to ‘convince’ we are here, to my understanding, to  just say the same thing time after time. So I just used my standard finish to any youtube comment.

I’ve never got into trouble with Anti-Whites with that post, but I will give more thought to what you suggested incase there’s some angle I don’t yet see.

(Besides I was just basking in the warm ‘that was pure genius’ applause of a fellow Bugser , dude 😉

Anybody else want to way in ?