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  • 04/06/2014 at 11:38 am #93022
    Mike M
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    Hi guys. I’d like if it’s possible, to have some counseling directly from Bob or the senior staff, because I’d like to go public, but I really need to be trained before.

    I’m from France. It’s been an antiwhite paradise for quite some time now, but I think people are slowly trying to wake up ! The front national has won several towns in the last city council elections ( 14 towns, includings 7 big cities, it’s not much but hey). The national front is not openly pro white, since they have candidates from the diversity, free masons, and some jews.

    I wish to go public with the mantra like you did, and try to stirr things up.
    Problem is, I risk A LOT. I could lose my authorization to own my guns (I don’t really own them since it’s government approved every 5 year), be fined or go to jail(a lot of people have been sent to jail for protesting against the gay mariage etc, or just defending themselves when attacked by antiwhite skinheads), or just end up being assaulted by 10 antiwhite skinheads (the socialist gvt do nothing about them, the nationa front political locals have been assaulted in Brittany with the POlice watching and doing nothing).

    I’d like to go public for two reasons, first talk about the ongoing genocide of our people around the globe. Two, by going public, it might prevent the mantra from being hijacked in France.

    Any chance Bob or you guys could help me do that ? I’m 33, motivated, instructed, but unemployed. That’s a good thing, I won’t lose my job ;).

    I’ve been helping on This is Europa and ARIACWFAW page on FB for one month and a half now and I’ve set up a few days ago, a french page for the mantra. It’s called Antiraciste est un nom de code pour antiblanc, if you want to check it up.

    Also, I think it will be possible for me in France, to prosecute anti white people for what they said or did. There’s an anti racism toward white people and catholic people in France that tried to or three times anti white for their speeches. I could go trhough them and see if they want to do it or not. I could also launch an association based on the mantra, to collect funds to pay lawyers if those of the other association do not want to.

    04/06/2014 at 7:26 pm #93033
    Ice Knight
    Participant

    Mike M – I’m just one of the low paid junior trainees around here. 😉

    However if you were thinking of going public with the Mantra, a French version of this video made by Minnie Ervia would cover all of the main talking points.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dpeMuUQQkc

    04/07/2014 at 2:10 am #93036
    JPOutlook
    Participant

    Good suggestion from “Ice Knight”.

    04/07/2014 at 2:34 am #93038
    Mike M
    Participant

    Thanks guys. I know the talking points already. What I meant was practical advices, practical politics etc :). I could go in the streets giving flyers to people even if I live in a very antiwhite town, setting up a structure to press charges for white genocide in France (local+ national+ european politicians), I don’t know how it would be received, but it could lead to media coverage and exposure to Mantra. I have lots of questions that needs to be answered.

    04/07/2014 at 3:12 am #93040
    Jason
    Participant

    This is just my opinion so please don’t take it as any great advice:

    Mike, I would take time to examine the reasons you want to go public. Please remember, becoming a martyr probably doesn’t do you or the BUGS message any good (you said you would be putting a lot at risk). I think I would rather have someone anonymously posting the Mantra 5-10 times per day, for two years (which is about 5,000 times) rather than have them lose their job or get into legal trouble (I am not sure about speech laws in France).

    Also, I don’t think you have been around BUGS that long, correct? Spending some time posting Minis and responding to them online for a solid year would give you practical experience in responding to Anti-Whites that would be very valuable before becoming a “public person”. Why not get up to speed in handling Anti-Whites in a non-public arena?

    04/07/2014 at 3:55 am #93043
    Secret Squirrel
    Participant

    Jason’s advice is sound. Using the Mantra is like playing tennis. You’ve got to get some experience before you turn Pro.

    I like your idea of prosecuting them. BUGS needs a “Horus the Avenger” of the law. When we start prosecuting anti-Whites successfuly, you’ll know we’ve arrived.

    04/07/2014 at 4:26 am #93045
    Benjamin Newells
    Participant

    Hi Mike.

    Like Jason and Squirrel and others, I think you should spend at least a year learning how to deal with anti-whites online before weighing up whether you want to go public.

    04/07/2014 at 10:31 am #93048
    Mike M
    Participant

    Hi guys thanks for the replies. Do you want me to comment here Jason, or should I write you an email to further discuss the possibilities here and my motivations ?

    04/07/2014 at 10:48 am #93054
    Jason
    Participant

    Here is fine. I just want people to think everything out before doing something that will forever change their lives. You can do a lot of good anonymously, so you should have a very good reason to go public.

    04/07/2014 at 11:18 am #93057
    Mike M
    Participant

    Ok so the reason I’d like to go public about it, is because I don’t trust actual politicians to do what’s best for us. We all know that the promises they make, all the big talk do not count as soon as they are elected. I’d like to push the mantra publicly because I’ve talked with so many people that are fed up of what’s going but who are either too old to rebel, or too scared of being called racist, or don’t know what to do. I want to give my best to ensure we whites have a future in our countries. I think that if I go public about it either with a small protest, no more than 5 person (I think that do not require govt approval) with a banner and a distribution of flyers that could be a good start, who could later on lead to maybe bigger events and coverage. The reason I think about going out in the public is mostly to show other people we do not have to fear the antiwhite anymore, and that if for ex a particular group start to talk about a thing in a particular way, then, people would look up to them even if some others hijacked their message. I’m concerned about nazipatriotic groups that exists in France, and who could hijack the message.

    Concerning the use of the mantra, I agree, I need more practice. I’ve been using it for now on Fb mantra friednly pages for the moment, when antiwhite came and wanted to stir things up, but also in private messages with people that I knew would disagree and come up with a lot of diverse arguments (one of them even told me he wasn’t afraid of it because the economy is going to be rescaled on a local level pretty soon with the prices of petrol etc :D)

    I don’t fear losing my job, I’m already unemployed. The only thing I fear is losing the right to own my guns (how antithetical), but anyway, here I would just be sent to jail if I was to use any of them against an armed robber in my house.

    I also need to say I’m tired of the salon de thé talk between “intellectuals” like those of Radix. I used to be friend with one them, translate things for him, and I’m tired of those guys spitting on street activists, while they patiently await in the dark to take their efforts in order to secure a position for themselves when the opportunity comes.

    04/07/2014 at 8:38 pm #93071
    Jason
    Participant

    Mike, I understand your feelings, but remember this: if you go public and then get attacked by anti-white skinheads, get into legal trouble and then get smeared in the press, you may not help other Whites get over their fears. In fact, you might look like just another martyr who got destroyed by the anti-Whites.

    Translating some good Minis into French and finding ways to get the message out online or in flyers would probably do more actual good for your people over the next year.

    Please don’t confuse the thrill of street drama with being effective. Sometimes street drama works great, sometimes anonymous works better. If you are really interested in making this your life, you will have MANY years ahead to do so. This is a long term battle.

    04/07/2014 at 11:57 pm #93072
    JPOutlook
    Participant

    That is funny what the anti-white said about the economy going to be re-scaled because of gas supply! They live in a fantasy world, really.

    J.P.O.

    04/08/2014 at 1:03 am #93074
    Horus
    Participant

    Mike M,

    I cannot give advice about being out in the open in France. I know nothing about the licensing issues you are concerned about. I have conversed with some French Pro Whites that did video translations. But nothing like this has come ever come up. Also, I do follow on my twitter more than a few French that are open and Pro White in France. (both Identaire and FN)
    In regards to using the Mantra –Fantastic. I know there are French translations of Anti-Racist Hitler and other videos on Youtube already.
    Translating Mini Mantras would be great as well. I have also talked Mantra and continue to talk to a few members of a group mentioned above that contacted in regards to animations. There is fertile ground over there for the Mantra. There are elements that want something more effective than just protesting against Islam. And it is good that you are working with Nordoxen and This is Europa.

    cheers

    04/08/2014 at 3:00 am #93075
    Benjamin Newells
    Participant

    Mike, do you know any places online that get a lot of hits from France? Those would obviously be ideal for infesting with the mantra.

    04/08/2014 at 11:37 am #93085
    Mike M
    Participant

    Thanks for all the replies guys.

    Jason : Those flyers you’re talking about, how should I give them then, if I don’t do in public ? Should I just put them in mailboxes ?

    JPO : Yeah I agree with you. Just like the people who believe that the it’s foremost an economic matter. Even some nationalists fail to see that White genocide is not a consequence, but the ultimate goal. Well that’s how I see it anyway. After the 1973 crisis oil shock, why people weren’t sent back to Nort Africa ? Instead they gave em the riht to make their family come here. But yeah sure, it’s only an economic problem 😀

    Horus : Concerning the Generation Identaire (or Bloc) and the Front National, the thing is that they’re not openly pro white. G.I stands agaisnt islam and the thugs, and the Front National has several politcal candidates for local elections that are arabic, jewish or blacks. They also have a lot of free masons. I’m pretty sure the FN base is pro white, but they’ve not been taught the Mantra. I wanted to translate the mini mantras but the question was what to do with them afterwards ? Should I post them here for none english speaking french people ? or on a totally french mantra page ? Should I use the french Fb page of the mantra to recruit ?

    I’m concerned about hijacking of the Mantra by french nazi nationalists.

    What I find wonderful in the mantra, is that we become victims of a genocide, instead of being perpetrators of racism against a minority. I think it changes the whole game ! Concerning the security issus, I could have my own security team for free. I know some guys in a biker club who already do the security staff for free for a lot of nationalists/or near nationalists (the exception being Alain Soral, who prones the reconcialiation between white and non white french people, he loves to blow islam too). Thing is I actually live in the very town center, so I could easily be tracked by antiwhites skins. I’m pretty big so I don’t fear for my life, but more for legal problems afterwards.

    I’m pretty sure a pro white mantra group or association could do a lot of good. After all we’re the victims here. We can’t be bad guys, can we 🙂

    Benjamin : I would say pretty much all the main newspaper website, but they’re heavily moderated. You can’t fart on them without having 1000 moderators on your comment ^^

    04/08/2014 at 12:05 pm #93091
    Benjamin Newells
    Participant

    Mike, I can help you post French minis once you’ve translated them.

    As for the moderated comments, I have two questions:

    1. Are the comments sent into moderation automatically or can they stay up there for some time before a moderator checks them? I ask because if we can still get them up and avoid bans we can do some damage. And even if we get ip bans, there are ways around that.

    2. Are there any other highly visited news sites that aren’t so heavily moderated?

    We’ll also have to find popular French youtube channels and keep hitting them over and over again.

    04/08/2014 at 1:15 pm #93092
    Mike M
    Participant

    1 I Don’t know, I’ve never bothered commenting on those websites. I’m thinking about yahoo.fr, google news, msn news. A lot of french people go on that. They are also the anti white sites, but we’re going to be censured pretty quick.

    2 I’ll try to investigate in that direction.

    04/08/2014 at 6:17 pm #93100
    seapea
    Participant

    Mike, here’s one approach to handing out flyers. Maybe it will give you some ideas.

    http://whitegenocideproject.com/racism-expert-says-that-opposing-white-genocide-is-low-grade-terrorism/

    04/09/2014 at 8:52 am #93108
    Mike M
    Participant

    Thanks Seapea. That’s a way to give flyers sure. I’ll think about it.

    Another question : Where can I get the originals of the flyers of the white genocide project ? Are these guys on bugs ? What about the videos ? I don’t own Photoshop nor know how to operate it … so If I give the translations to someone, could they do it for me ?

    04/09/2014 at 5:39 pm #93112
    seapea
    Participant

    Here’s the WGP poster/flyer/etc page.

    http://whitegenocideproject.com/posters-and-flyers/

    I don’t own Photoshop either, I’m a free software person. I’ve been using GIMP for my graphic needs but if you want to get started with flyers without the need to learn a graphics programs, you should be able to use any word processor to make some simple flyers.

    If you’re interested in graphics, GIMP has plenty of great tutorials scatter around the internet too. When I need to figure out how to get something done with GIMP, I just do a simple google search. Example search: gimp photo collage

    http://www.gimp.org

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