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Premise Checker

Posted by Bob on October 10th, 2006 under Comment Responses


Bob, You should not have told the Premise Checker about your blog unless you want your Premises Checked!
This whole debate over the rationale for White survival goes back to Richard Swartzbaugh in the my race vs. the race debate in the mid-1970s. A White my race racist urges the survival of the White race because it is his race. A White *the* race racist urges the survival of the White race because it is *the* race, the only race that matters.
Okay, there a plenty of White race racists who maintain that the White race is the creative race, that the world would stop moving forward if the top race were the Far Easterners and would move backward if the top race were one of the dumb races. (World IQ is 90.) This is support and would think that other races should support the survival of *the* race, since they benefit from having the world move forward, too. If the White race becomes explicitly racist and argues this case, maybe the other races are not so stupid or stubborn that they would not stop trying to kill of the goose that lays the golden egg. Actually, it’s only Whites that want to solve the race problem by eliminating Whites!
Now other White racists focus on admiring the things the White race has created in the past. Now, I’m no Roman Catholic, but I do admire the depth of the theological system that Whites constructed. Not that other races haven’t put out lots of theological rumble-bumble, but it’s not systematic. I was just browsing the web to find the texts of “Big Wheel Buddhism.” I found that the texts made little sense and was referred to articles by a professor who trys to put them in order. His name? Ronald Epstein! Since you are doubtless curious, here a link: http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/Buddhism/Yogacara/TRANSFORMATION%20OF%20CONSCIOUSNESS.htm
Hey, this is fun! If you want to find out about the 31 planes of existence, you’d have to tease them out of the sacred texts, but Susan Elbaum Jootla (it would seem a White person so enamored of this business she decided to upgrade the Buddhish gene pool by marrying one Jootla) has done it for you at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/jootla/wheel414.html
Okay, so I prefer our race’s products, maybe like I thrill whenever someone from my high school or from U.Va. makes the news (Katie Couric had a room on the Lawn, in case you didn’t know, Bob.) and have not taken a Buddhist as a wife. (Actually, though, the woman I would have most resonated with at work was a Buddhist. Strange, highly intelligent. Her name: Lois Peak, that is before she changed it.) What’s important is not the products, as you so rightly insist, but the capacity to make more products. Conservative gloomists say this is not possible, but they never read the scientific news. They don’t shave either: razor blades have improved immensely in my lifetime, one of the little things that the White race does that go unnoticed.
Point is that my race racists have to be the race racists as well. Another reason is that racism itself is a White invention. You once wondered whether it was invented by the Slave Power to justify slavery. Had we been Papists, it wouldn’t have gotten off the ground, since in a stupendious act of rent-seeking, the Roman Catholic pope decreed in the early 15th century that American Indians had souls and hence missionaries should go there to keep them from going to Hell. Besides, racism is indeed a social construction, or learned activity, since our instincts are mostly to identify with those in our hunting band. This instinct was in place in the Olden Times. To identify with a whole race takes a society advanced enough to find out about the race in the first place. And even my race racists have to decide on the boundaries of White and non-White. Do they do this on my race or these race grounds? Probably both, which shows that it’s both the and my not one or the other.

Comment by Trager Smith

ME:

If you are going to presume to check premises, you should first know waht the premise is. As I just explained, my advantgage is that I am operating in a world which is so screwed up intellectually that the other side is wrwong in depth.

I was the one who said in New Orleans, “It’s not “the” race, it’s MY race!” But I am also aware we are the one race humanity would really lose by losing. READ the blog before you criticize my premises. I have ssaid both these these things over and over and over here, and if you were a regular seminar member here I would give you hell for missing that.

You are a neophyte here.

Learn first, premise check afterwards.

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  1. #1 by joe rorke on 10/10/2006 - 6:36 pm

    That’s good advice Bob is giving you, Trager Smith. I’ve been doing it all my life. Learn first. Then, if you think the situation calls for it, you can question the premises of the person putting forth the argument.

  2. #2 by Pain on 10/10/2006 - 7:21 pm

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    Are you sure Trager was criticizing you? It sounded only like a commentary to me.

  3. #3 by Alan B. on 10/11/2006 - 12:27 am

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    So true Bob, Regardless of what any other race might have had centuries ago, its was the caucasion race that excelled at science,law, humanities and philosophy. We led the way for the rest of the world, what they have we gave to them, they should be so very thankfull. The intellecual degenerates that are white who are leading the multicultralism(mongrel)crusade to stamp out the white race throughout the world are just plain twisted. What hate they have for their own race can only be attributed to their distain for humanity, if we fall, mankind will for ever live in a dark age of death and despair, look at South Africa, or even New Orleans for a preview of what lies ahead. Forget about the asian countries they just copy and adlib what they borrow from us, its all fake.

  4. #4 by kane on 10/11/2006 - 11:14 pm

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    “We need to be us, and only we can be us”- Jared Taylor

    I don’t believe I have to be supreme to survive. I don’t believe we have to be the best to live. I think we are the best, I’m sure every race privately thinks this. I’m sure Japanese consider us to be worse than them. I don’t really care. Survival is not based on accomplishments, it is a fundamnetal right.

  5. #5 by Pain on 10/12/2006 - 12:41 am

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    It could be I misread Trager’s thing. I had gone to the websites to look up the Buddhism there, and it was so obviously primitive garbage and nonsense designed to reduce idiot-followers into submission, I figured the guy was being sarcastic. Come on 31 levels of consciousness? No evidence for any of them, and no reason to have so many — except to make one’s followers dependent on you? No wonder the whites in this country who ape that nonsense are homosexuals and Jews in Asheville who buy candles in the shape of male genitalia. It still looks like a joke to me. If not, then Trager is too dumb to see he made a laughing stock of himself.

  6. #6 by Trager Smith on 10/12/2006 - 11:54 am

    Pain was right: I was just making general remarks. I was remarking on the my race vs. the race presumptions, not criticizing Bob for coming down on one side. I still ask, though, how is it decided WHO makes up “my race”? It is not a trivial question, since so many people indentify themselves with the “human race.” Racial and national movements, if you haven’t observed it, can be ladders for individual upward mobility. A disproportionate number of those in the NSDAP had Polish and other non-German names. They became the equal to Germans in what was not so much a racial movement as a German national movement. In this country the Nazi who killed George Lincoln Rockwell had a Greek name. The guy who got caught counterfeiting and went over to the other side, being paraded by the ADL, had a Spanish name.
    What racial supremicism holds out it is a flat-top pyramid, with the prefered race on top but with everyone in that charmed race equal to everyone else.
    I report this as a fact.
    And, Pain, I was indeed making fun of Buddhism. I was pointing out that they have their theological gasbags in great abundance, but it doesn’t add up to anything, unlike the various theologies of *White* Christendom. They have no basis in any facts perceivable by the senses, but they do amount to a magnificently interwined set to ideas. Science does the same thing, the difference being that scientists do check back with experimental evidence from time to time.

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