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Adelheim, the TOUGH Question

Posted by Bob on November 1st, 2006 under Coaching Session, Comment Responses


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As you might remember I talked about translating the mantra into Norwegian.

The problem is, however, that we do not use the term “race-problem” in Norway.

So I was thinking about in what way we put it. I realized that we use the american term melting pot (”smeltedigel” in norwegian.). It is not precisely the same but it might work. It is not used a lot I think, but everybody knows what it means. So I tried to use that term instead.

This is only a first draft but this text can be more or less directly translated into Norwegian. I do not know whether or not “melting pot idea” sounds good in English.

What do you think? I have to do much more editing but I wonder if you think I can use the term. That I can get the point across.

“Everybody talks about the melting pot idea. They say that it is the idea that all peoples will be mixed and become one race which includes that the original race will vanish. To make the melting pot come true, EVERY white country and ONLY white countries have to take in millions of non-whites and quote assimilate unquote with them.”

“Nobody says that the melting pot idea is a good thing for Asia, Africa or other non-white countries. When people object to this policy of melting pot and mass-immigration, they use the excuse that all white countries have a low birth rate.”

“Japan and Israel have also low birth rates, but nobody suggests that the melting pot idea nor mass-immigration is neither necessary nor a good thing for Japan or Israel.”

“What if I said that this melting pot idea was a good thing for EVERY black country and ONLY black countries?”

“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a melting pot idea. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK people?”

“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”

“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, everybody agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

“They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.”

“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

Comment by Adelheim —

ME:

I did your editing for you. We now need input from others who live in Europe or elsewhere where the term “race problem” is not used.

Come on, tenestre, Budarick! I DEFINITELY can’t do this one alone!

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  1. #1 by Pain on 11/01/2006 - 5:41 pm

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    Should we use this as the new Mantra or was this for Norway?

  2. #2 by timestre on 11/01/2006 - 5:54 pm

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    I think Adelheim’s suggestion is better for Norway. I don’t think “melting pot” is an ideal expression, but I can’t think of anything better right now.

    However, I don’t think Israel is a good example of a country with a low birth rate. According to the CIA World Factbook, the total fertility rate in Israel is 2.41 children born/woman, much higher than the average European country. A more interesting example would be Iran, where the same statistic is 1.8, roughly the same as Norway.

    I also think the mantra can be made more compact. Here is my suggestion:

    “Everybody talks about the melting pot. They say that all peoples will be mixed and become one race. To make the melting pot come true, EVERY white country and ONLY white countries have to take in millions of non-whites and assimilate with them.

    Nobody says that the melting pot is a good thing for Asia, Africa or other non-white countries. When people object to the melting pot, they are told that white countries have low birth rates.

    Japan and Iran also have low birth rates, but nobody suggests that the melting pot is necessary for Japan or Iran.

    What if I said that the melting pot was a good thing for EVERY black country and ONLY black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about the melting pot. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK people?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I say the obvious truth about the genocide against my race, the white race, everybody agrees that I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

  3. #3 by Adelheim on 11/01/2006 - 6:54 pm

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    Hello timestre!

    I agree that “melting pot” may not be the best way to put it. Although I think we get the point across.

    When it comes to Israel, I did not know that thay had 2.41. If Iran has 1.8 we will use Iran.

    Getting more said in fewer words is important, you did that. However I think we should use “quote assimilate unquote”. I think we stress the point better.

  4. #4 by timestre on 11/02/2006 - 10:59 am

    Hello Adelheim

    Perhaps we should keep the bit about assimilation as in the original mantra:

    “assimilate”, that is, intermarry

    to clarify what it means.

  5. #5 by Adelheim on 11/02/2006 - 11:59 am

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    Hei timestre!
    Would you comment on my translation of your version of the mantra? I am SURE this can be improved. I just had to get it down to keep things going. We have to rewrite it many times, of course, to make it a powerfull weapon.

    “Alle snakker om smeltedigelen. De sier at alle folkeslag vil bli mikset slik at alle mennesker til slutt vil bli like. For å realisere denne ideen må ALLE hvite land og KUN hvite land ta inn millioner av ikke-hvite innvandrere og (sitat) assimilere, (sitat slutt) med dem.

    Dersom målet VIRKELIG var smeltedigelen måtte man også hatt denne prosessen i land utenfor vesten. Men ingen sier at smeltedigelen er en god ide for Asia, Afrika eller andre ikke-hvite land. Dersom folk protesterer mot denne ideen, blir man fortalt at alle hvite land har lavt fødselstall.

    Japan og Iran har også lavt fødselstall, men ingen foreslår at smeltedigelen er en god ide for Japan eller Iran.

    Hva om jeg sa at denne smeltedigel ideen var en god ting for ALLE afrikanske land og KUN afrikanske land?

    Hvor lang tid ville det ta noen å innse at jeg ikke snakket om noe smeltedigel. Det jeg snakket om var den endlige løsningen til afrikanske folket?

    Og hvor lang tid tror du det ville ta en fornuftig afrikaner å legge merke til dette, og hvilken afrikaner ville ikke ha protestert mot dette?

    Men hvis jeg forteller om denne åpenbare realiteten om folkemord mot mitt folk, det hvite folket, er alle er enige om at jeg er en nazistsomvildrepeseksmillionerjøder.

    De sier de er anti-rasistiske. Det de er, er anti-hvite.

    Anti-rasist er et kodeord for anti-hvit.”

  6. #6 by Bob on 11/02/2006 - 1:38 pm

    Adelheim, just because I am from Pontiac, South Carolina, you foreigners think you got me FOOLED!

    No way.

    You and tenestre are talkin’ FRENCH at each each other, and I know when folks talk French, they’re sayin’ something DIRTY!

  7. #7 by Alan B. on 11/02/2006 - 2:24 pm

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    I spent an hour trying out different translations from English to Norwegian using translation sites on the internet. Bob had it down pat, only a norwegian can come up with a proper translation since the english language is muddled with slang etc that it was utterly hopeless.

  8. #8 by timestre on 11/02/2006 - 2:39 pm

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    My suggestion for improvement:

    “Alle snakker om smeltedigelen. De sier at alle folk vil bli blandet og til slutt bli like. For å virkeliggjøre smeltedigelen må ALLE hvite land og KUN hvite land ta inn millioner av ikke-hvite innvandrere og “assimileres” med dem.

    Ingen sier at smeltedigelen er en god ting for Asia, Afrika eller ikke-hvite land andre steder. Dersom folk protesterer mot smeltedigelen, blir de fortalt at hvite land har lave fødselstall.

    Japan og Iran har også lave fødselstall, men ingen sier at smeltedigelen er nødvendig for Japan eller Iran.

    Hva om jeg sier at smeltedigelen er en god ting for ALLE svarte land og KUN svarte land?

    Hvor lang tid ville det ta hvem som helst å innse at jeg ikke snakker om smeltedigelen. Jeg snakker om den endlige løsningen for svarte mennesker?

    Og hvor lenge ville det ta en fornuftig svart mann å legge merke til dette, og hvilen svart mann ville ikke protestert mot dette?

    Men hvis jeg sier denne åpenbare sannheten om folkemord mot mitt folk, hvite mennesker, er alle enige om at jeg er en nazistsomvildrepeseksmillionerjøder.

    De sier de er anti-rasistiske. Det de er, er anti-hvite.

    Anti-rasist er et kodeord for anti-hvit.”

  9. #9 by Bob on 11/02/2006 - 3:20 pm

    Dammit, Alan B, I’m full of WHAT?

    Sorry, I read it back over and saw you were talking about English.

  10. #10 by Bob on 11/02/2006 - 3:22 pm

    Alan B, I didn’t know you were one of this bunch of foreign language talkers!

    Oh, well, as Napolean said when Dante shot him,

    “Et tu Brute?

  11. #11 by Adelheim on 11/02/2006 - 4:29 pm

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    timestre!

    I think that one floats better than mine. Even though I am still uncertain about the term “smeltedigel”. But I think we shold TRY it on stormfront Baltic/Scandinavia section. See what other people think. Do you agree?

    If you agree I suggest you post it there. I can post it if you do not have an account.

  12. #12 by Alan B. on 11/03/2006 - 2:39 am

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    I was tring to think of english words that might translate and make sinse. Hell, melting pot doen’t make a hell of alot of sinse in English, lol.

  13. #13 by timestre on 11/03/2006 - 9:58 am

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    No, I don’t have an account on that site.

    I don’t think anybody in Norway can say that anything in the mantra is untrue as it is now. In relation to that I would like to mention retired Norwegian Labour Party politician Thorbjorn Berntsen, former member of parliament and minister of environmentalism. You would love him, Bob. When interviewed on Norwegian state television he said that

    “And to work for a policy of keeping ethnic groups divided from each other, that will never carry through. Never. So I think that eventually this will develop gradually increasing tolerance. There will be intermarriage and kids and all that to an increasing extent. And in the long term the colour of the skin on all of us will become light brown, which is completely fine with me. And it looks good too.”

  14. #14 by Adelheim on 11/03/2006 - 10:56 am

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    I have now posted it on SF.

    Alan B, it is good you try to think of another way of putting it. I have a feeling that there is a more efficient way to translate the mantra.

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