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#1 by BGLass on 10/09/2011 - 8:39 am
totally off-topic, but one thing i’m noticing when people talk is how they buy the talking point “the victor writes history.”
most people totally get that. But then, they don’t explore what it means, in reality, mostly b/c they also, deep down, believe “the victor wins that right to write history,” or that God ultimately decides wars (so the “moral law” really lies with whoever won), or they like a version of life where “might is right.”
but in marxism, there is no moral law. The “winner” is the needy person, or the person who SAYS they are “needy” and convinces somebody to give them stuff on the basis of how needy they are. So, it’s always a fight for appearing needy to the dispensers of stuff and gaining their favor, like courtiers of old, high-toned begging.
anyway, there needs to be talking point as pithy as “the victor writes history” for ‘the winner is not always right.’
the idea that the winner is right (morally) makes people accept whoever physically squashes an opponent.
but the ‘victor writes history’ AND ‘many victors are just belligerent bosses.’
#2 by shari on 10/09/2011 - 9:43 am
Now, with the anti-white racism in every white country, even the history the victors wrote,has to go, lest non-whites are offended and fail to assimilate. Ha! Good luck with that one.
#3 by Neuropa on 10/09/2011 - 10:06 am
Bob, my college professor says the following about immigration from third would countries to white countries: “Some of us men are benefitted by our birth and are born into safety while others are not and we are maintaining the wall between those who have been lucky och those who have not been lucky.”
I have heard this particular argument many times before but I don’t know how to properly handle it.. I need you to figure this out for me Bob.
There is some sort of hidden agreement in the argument that human souls participate in a form of lottery before birth and this idea seems widely accepted.
I need you to go to the bottom of this because no one else can and it needs to be done.
#4 by Gar5 on 10/09/2011 - 10:47 am
Safety isn’t won in a lottery.
Safety is relevant to the people — moving millions of Somalians into Luxembourg would make Luxembourg into Somalia.
I’ll paraphrase Bob: A country is the product of the people that live there.
#5 by Gavin on 10/09/2011 - 11:11 am
He is justifying genocide. Hit him with the mantra.
Remember we are not here to respond to the anti-whites “points”
We are here to make OUR POINT, genocide.
#6 by OldBlighty on 10/09/2011 - 11:58 am
@Neuropa
All you have to remember is every excuse the anti-white invents, always results in the GeNOcide of only one race.
It doesn’t matter how RICH a non-white nation is, or what bad things their people did in history, no anti-white will ever nominate a non-white nation and demand they be flooded with millions of people that are not their race, until they are blended out of existence. They only Demand this of White nations.
Copy and paste their 1001 excuses for White GeNOcide into this package and mark it, Return to Sender:
Meanwhile, no one is flooding Africa with Non Africans and telling them… “Some of us men are benefited by our birth” …we are going to create a blended humanity in ONLY Africa.
No one is flooding Japan with non-Japanese and telling them… “Some of us men are benefited by our birth” …we are going to create a blended humanity in ONLY Japan.
Only White countries are doing this, only Anti-Whites like you are pushing it. Its GeNOcide.
#7 by Bob on 10/09/2011 - 12:35 pm
Gavin is exactly right.
DO NOT TAILGATE. Don’t let them turn the conversation to you personally.
With my practice, I would have immediately said, “So you are saying the white race deserves genocide because I was lucky to be born in a white country.”
#8 by Gavin on 10/09/2011 - 12:53 pm
I would say “my race” rather than “the white race” because it tells everyone that “the white race” is not some abstract concept, we are a real race, made up of real people, one of which is me and when you attack us, you are attacking me.
#9 by Neuropa on 10/09/2011 - 1:28 pm
Thank you all for all your answers!
On the question on why membership in the UN is good my other college professor says that firstly it’s a way for a nation state to look after it’s interests in international politics.
Secondly, t’s a way to pressure states to follow agreed upon rules and that is particurlarly true in case of human rights where violators can be punished.
She says that europe have a more socialistic social climate where we don’t fight so much about money , exterminate our enemies or violate human rights. This has got to be the norm and it’s the same reason we have laws. It’s about seeing to the common good and having leaders elected by the people.
I asked her if she imagined the lion and sheep lying down together on the savannah sharing a vegetarian meal? She said “yes”.
Why does her rant make me feel ill? What is the pro-white non-wordist line on the UN? What should I respond to her?
#10 by Dick_Whitman on 10/09/2011 - 2:33 pm
Neuropa,
You tell your professor that there is nothing inherently bad about an organization that facilitates nations coming together to discuss global issues.
The problem arises when these organizations demand White nations to accept forced integration from the “developing world.”
I find nothing objectionable about global cooperation. In fact, I believe it is in our (White)nature to improve the world. I know a guy and his wife who nurse broken-winged birds back to health. He does this at his own expense. This is part of our nature.
After we smash the anti-White system the world will better off for everyone. The urge that Whites (especially White liberals) have to help the “developing world” will not be suppressed.
BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO SMASH THE ANTI-WHITE SYSTEM!!!
#11 by Dick_Whitman on 10/09/2011 - 2:38 pm
I also recommend that you click the tab above that reads “Porch Talk.” Listen to the talk called “I support the United Nations.”
Here’s a link to the show archives:
http://www.whitakeronline.org/townhall.htm
#12 by Frank on 10/09/2011 - 4:35 pm
“Copy and paste their 1001 excuses for White GeNOcide into this package and mark it, Return to Sender:”
Old Blighty ROCKS with that one-liner!
#13 by Genseric on 10/11/2011 - 5:54 am
Indeed.
#14 by Genseric on 10/10/2011 - 10:05 am
Almost, Lass.
“The victor gets the wRITE to Right History.”
But you don’t get to this point without your deduction, that’s for certain. I like the way you put it a while back. “Revisionism is the other side of the war attempting to have a say in history,” or something to that effect.
#15 by Genseric on 10/11/2011 - 5:56 am
I think I might know this Neuropa person.
Neuropa, are (were) you a student of Naropa? Private message me if you like.
Did Howard Dean usher you out (keynote) at graduation?