I read what Lord Nelson very accurately called the hijack attempts on the Mantra to add Covington’s phrase to it.
Nobody would touch the Mantra a couple of years back. Now the hijack attempts are multiplying. The difference between Untouchable status and the concentrated attempt to take it over and twist it for fund raising is YOUR doing.
Those who now want to hijack the Mantra were integral parts of the brick wall of anti-whites who disclaimed and blocked it for years.
The nice thing is that when opportunists try to hijack your bandwagon, that proves that it IS a bandwagon.
As Lord Nelson stated, any half-way decent person would go to BUGS to offer some added sales gimmick. But BUGSERS would reject that nonsense, simply because all the sales gimmicks and white communities and Guardians of Diversity crap have been tried and tried and tried.
They raised money but never did anything to advance our cause. We do not want to hook our moving ship onto huge old wrecks that have been becalmed for fifty years
#1 by cecilhenry on 05/24/2013 - 1:23 pm
For myself at least, I don’t know of any additions to the Mantra.
Who is doing that? What are they trying to add?
I use a lot of mini-mantra’s, but why pervert the Mantra message??
#2 by Jason on 05/24/2013 - 5:36 pm
Well there was someone posting Minis and adding an ad for Northwest Front. It ruined the effect of the Mini. I’d see it fairly often and I requested the person stop at least 3 times. If someone read the Mini, the last line of what they saw posted drove them to some lame website for NWF, not not to BUGS.
The Guardian dude was also using Mantra sayings but he had stated (like they all do) that it “wasn’t enough” and a great leader (him) was needed to take the reigns from here on out (gee thanks). The early videos that Guardians did struck me as pretty bad.
#3 by jo3w on 05/24/2013 - 6:23 pm
These NW fromt folks have a website dont they? Swarm it. We may get a few new quality BUGSters out of it. Mess with the mantra…you get the SWARM.
#4 by Peter Cottontail on 05/24/2013 - 3:29 pm
Now is the time to stay in formation. If some of our troops are off arguing with people about the Hitler cult, others arguing with the Jew firsters, others arguing with the Covington people, we are NOT in formation. We are obviously behind enemy lines at this point and the antiwhites are scrambling. Don’t let them get you off message.
#5 by Asgardian117 on 05/24/2013 - 4:06 pm
Any attempt to add anything to the mantra by “other” people is only spreading the original message. I understand that it IS THEFT but all roads lead back to bugs. This is OURS we are not a membership orginization we are here on our own accord. PETER COTTONTAIL is correct when he says NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BREAK FORMATION….white genocide, stop justifying it, you are anti white,….this is turning into a one sided pounding and we are swinging the hammer.
#6 by Jason on 05/24/2013 - 5:52 pm
Well what if the last line the thief puts on the Mantra is intended to drive traffic to their site and not to BUGS. And when someone goes there, it’s one of the typical creepy WN approach that has failed for 50 years?
I don’t know how it works legally, but Bob has allowed for the Mantra to be used by those exposing the agenda of White Genocide. From a legal standpoint, I wouldn’t want to be caught mangling the Mantra for personal monetary gain.
#7 by Asgardian117 on 05/24/2013 - 6:49 pm
Yes but the question will arise, who wrote this? A simple google search will steer them in the right direction, thats kinda what happened to me it started at stormfront (wheels were spinnig but not going anywhere) then on to amren (no real focus or cause just complaining) someone mentioned white genocide in one of the comment sections and the rest is history. All roads eventually lead to bugs ampw just spread grey goo.
#8 by Cleric Preston on 05/24/2013 - 7:44 pm
some years back I was running out of whisky and it was an ‘off-pay’ week so I couldn’t buy more.
I decided to stretch out what I had by mixing it with water.
What I got tasted like watered down whisky.
If NWF, HAC, or whatever Capital Letter group wants to water down the Mantra that’s their business, but watered down anything is only palatable until you can find the full strength real deal.
#9 by Jason on 05/25/2013 - 9:08 am
Adding to the Mantra is dangerous. It destroys the thought-flow. The contents are revolutionary enough and are just on the edge of being graspable for a new person.
The moments AFTER reading the Mantra are crucial. Your conventional world view is now in crisis and an opportunity for growth presents itself. The Mantra needs to stop where it stops for that opportunity to be realized.
To add on a line about where you can buy cheap fried chicken, or plots of lands in the Northwest destroys that fragile new state of mind. It takes the reader back to his comfortable old mindset. Readers need to stay in the mindset the Mantra creates as long as possible.
This is not to say the Mantra can’t be adjusted, but it shouldn’t be done willy nilly and it shouldn’t be done at all by people whose only interest is in stealing it for whatever scam they are running.
Imagine if the line in the USSR had been “if this is a workers paradise, why do they shoot us if we try to leave? And by the way, many of us are moving to Siberia to start a commune”. That additional line would have ruined it.
I think these general principles would apply to any future messages we craft.
I’m open to other opinions but that is mine.
#10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 05/25/2013 - 12:51 pm
Agreed, and I love your “Siberia” example.
BUT: Considering that example, imagine if the USSR had had an internet open to dissidents and if every dissident had incorporated into his particular dissident agenda the mantra, “if this is a workers paradise…”
Yes, in each particular instance, that message would be weakened, but overall, by its forming the core of every other message, it would be strengthened!
So let’s hope that every dissident with an agenda incorporates Mantra into his agenda, so that Mantra will be the message that is consistent in all the other varied messages!
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That’s my hopeful construction of the situation. I admit it makes me very nervous. But I think the incorporation of Mantra into other agendas is inevitable, and I hope that that phenomenon will make Mantra the basic presumption to which all White disgruntlement of whatever kind automatically attaches itself.
The problem of course is that so much of pro-White messages today are turn-offs, and if they incorporate the Mantra, they turn off people to Mantra.
Nothing we can do about that that I can see, except have as strong a presence ourselves as possible.
Swarming (the main thing of course), BUGS, FTWR, White GeNOcide Project, the “petitions”…all that is Mantra in pure form.
#11 by Jason on 05/25/2013 - 7:05 pm
Part of the problem is that everyone who has taken the Mantra and added to it as part of some other message has been low rent and acted very questionably.
So, if there were high quality pro-White groups who had approached Bob to ask about using elements of the Mantra, and listened to advice, that would be one thing. But they did not approach him and they are low quality to boot.
#12 by Asgardian117 on 05/25/2013 - 9:33 am
Jason it does irk me that people are being thieves no doubt about it. The mantra states the obvious it puts things in terms where a person can state the truth and state it legally, most white people know something is wrong, thy just never knew how to articulate without saying a random racial slur and thats the POINT the system was built to hang ANYONE who opposed what was happening to the white race and along came the mantra. I honestly have no clue as to how we would even attempt to stop people from hijacking the mantra idk if we can. But a small group key word is small looking to use it is wrong but can prove useful in the sense of spreading grey goo. Would we prefer they didnt do it? Sure, but we can only really control what we do and what we need to do is stay on target. Im headed out now into the wild to go smash pink rabbits, see you out there 🙂
#13 by beefcake on 05/25/2013 - 11:54 am
Those who cannot swim will ALWAYS panic and attempt to grab hold of those who can.
If you let them grab hold of you they will pull you under.
So we avoid them. We must simply let them drown and focus on what WE are doing.
If they attempt adding something to it we simply ignore it, we avoid repeating it ourselves.
You cannot stop the drowning man from doing something futile in his panic.
All we can do is stay disciplined ourselves. We stay on it, we keep repeating our Mantra. That is HOW we keep control of the message.
We stay on point, and avoid adding any nonsense to the Mantra. We also keep our distance from the losers.
#14 by HealthyGeneticIdentity on 05/25/2013 - 5:33 pm
The problem with it is people keep doing the same thing that they always have done sometimes people can realise that obviously we need to do something different. The Mantra thinking reminds me of a story called Where’s my Cheese if anyone has read it or seen the cartoon. All those who try to hijack the Mantra are the mouse who doesn’t go to look for more cheese the Mantra is the other mouse who gets the cheese and has to deal with his friend not changing how he thinks
#15 by GoD on 05/28/2013 - 12:48 am
As more people use the mantra, you guys are turning a lot of people off by being pretentious and elitist.
Many people have been complaining on Facebook about this, several even going so far as to say that they are unsubscribing from Horus’ podcast.
Be careful about biting the hand that feeds you.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. HAC’s mantra emulation is indeed great to post on black crime stories to get people thinking about a White homeland.
Wasting hours debating those who want to destroy the White race on Twitter, Facebook, or YouTube gets us nowhere.
#16 by Jason on 05/28/2013 - 1:15 am
You aren’t a fan of Mantra techniques, you’ve made that clear before. Why bother posting here? Go home.
And the only people supposedly “complaining” are the thieves themselves.
It’s a strange arrogance to demand the right to steal something and then presume to dictate how that very thing (the Mantra) should be used. This by people who never could have conceived of the Mantra and refuse to even post it once.
#17 by GoD on 05/28/2013 - 1:22 am
It should also be added that the alleged “sales gimmicks” drew a ton of attention and discussion to the White genocide issue:
http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/wbs80/this_was_placed_on_my_coworkers_vehicle/