The list of states which did NOT have antimiscegenation laws keeps changing.
One quoted wikipedia entry said that “the future District of Columbia” had never passed such a law.
That “the future” was probably referring to the fact that it got BACK a local government only recently. It has been DC since congress created it. DC HAD a local government until 1883, when its charter was removed by Republicans because it was a pro-Southern and Democratic. One part of the Compromise of 1850 was to abolish the slave TRADE, certainly not slavery, in DC.
The local government set up, and the same congress that passed the fourteenth amendment funded, a SEGREGATED public school system. You BET they had and enforced an anti-miscegenation law.
Minnesota had SEGREGATED schools in 1909. The most unlikely states had laws like this, despite the fact that they had practically no blacks to enforce them on.
It is very hard to prove a negative, especially since practically nobody knows any history. Vermont probably did have one, since New Hampshire and Maine did.
Massachusetts abolished slavery about 1783, but abolished its anti-intermarriage law at the height of the Civil War in 1863. No one then challenged the right of a state to have one, and Lord knows who bothered to pass them back then in places like New Hampshire and Minnesota.
NO ONE then thought that prohibiting intermarriage was an imposition on ONE race. Which is why I keep pointing out that the idea that “We the People” included all races was simply a no-go to the REAL writers of the Constitution.
One reason for the “DUH-MEN Chorus” maybe that most people have not spent their lives battling these people and heard all their arguments a thousand times. In discussing Hell as just a poor “quality of life” I half-seriously apologized for using the term.
Back when I was working actively as an ally of pro-lifers, “quality of life” was the pro-choice slogan in defending foreign aid to pay for abortions.
Now commenters keep saying they never HEARD of it. I saw as CHRISTMAS special a couple of years ago where a guy form Christmas Future who looked Oriental said everybody looked like him in the future, a fusion of races.
Pat Robertson said intermarriage would ease our race problems just recently. “Assimilation” is the mantra of liberals and conservatives. Yet commenters keep telling me they never HEARD of such a thing! Antis will say it one day and deny it the next.
I’m too OLD to play this game! If you never HEARD of it, maybe that’s because someone who has been in this game forever has something to TEACH you.
#1 by shari on 07/10/2007 - 12:30 pm
Well we do need someone who has been in the game, to teach us. I never heard the “quality of life” argument. What I saw were people like Kate Michaelman, saying that abortion was a holy fundamental right that the law and constitution was based on. I never heard anyone say that they were also very concerned about the “quality of life” in the third world. That they were in desparate need of clean water and “abortion providers.” Now that would have gone over big.
#2 by shari on 07/10/2007 - 1:26 pm
On second thought maybe I did hear it and didn’t realize it. Abortion was lumped in with “health care” wasn’t it? And assimilation is pc speak for inter-racial marriage. Sorry to be so thick. The things that you’ve been saying SHOULD have been taught in grade school.
#3 by Scimitar on 07/10/2007 - 2:31 pm
A few comments.
1.) Massachusetts repealed its state anti-miscegenation law in 1843. The abolitionists in that state had waged a long campaign against it. I have come across this in multiple sources during my research, so it is almost certainly true.
2.) According to Wikipedia, Pennsylvania repealed its state anti-miscegenation law in 1780. That’s news to me, but it really doesn’t surprise me: Pennsylvania was the epicenter of the first anti-slavery movement and the home of the Quakers, America’s foremost egalitarians. Racial equality was a standard theme of abolitionist propaganda during the 1790s.
3.) Maine certainly had an anti-miscegenation law (both as part of Massachusetts and as an independent state). It was repealed after the Civil War.
4.) Any information you may have re: anti-miscegenation laws in Canada would be helpful. To my knowledge, Canadians never had any, although they did have eugenic sterilization laws in several provinces. I plan on creating a new page at OCD that will reproduce all the anti-miscegenation laws for each state, provide information re: their repeal, along with proper citations so readers will be able to easily verify them. I prefer to err on the side of caution. If I can’t find any evidence that a particular state had an anti-miscegenation law, I will assume it didn’t until shown otherwise.
5.) Racial attitudes in the American South were much stronger than they were in the American North. Generally, the closer to Dixie, the more racist the population (Southern Illinois, Southern Indiana, Southern Ohio), and the closer to Canada, the less racist the population.
#4 by Sys Op on 07/10/2007 - 3:36 pm
You say this, Shari, as I’ve (and most other 50 years and younger) never heard the “assimilation” word redefinition PC drumbeat.
Another commenter restated what we’ve all learned about since and that’s the Hegelian Dialectic and its superbly and phenomenally successful reprocessing for Christian-based white nations by Antonio Gramsci.
In every case consistently associate an “OK” word for what you desire that isn’t “OK” and associate a nasty viseral term for what you wish to crush. “Extremist” ring a bell? I am one.
It takes the BOBs who are constantly vigilant as thinkers to start going head-on with these concepts no matter WHO opposes him. We have done the same. That abortion argument was LONG standing (I’ve been an extreme anti-abortion activist since the late 70s and I, along with several other BOB types, have written much of their best apologetics that made us persona-non-gratas with even the Pro-Life camps. The National Right To Life Committee is the primary reason we did not get it turned back in the mid-70s and they killed every effort in all 50 states. Abortion makes them millions of dollars a year personally and to corrupt politicians.)
None of this could have happened without the public school system founded under the Fabian Socialists of Great Britain using the dialectic/Gramsci operational model. I’m positive Bob has much more exact history on that process.
As a friend says… Søren Kierkegaard is spinning in his grave over what was done with his works. One can only wonder what he would have said under today’s technology.
#5 by shari on 07/10/2007 - 4:50 pm
Those goddamned bloody bastards will wish THEY had never been born.
#6 by Hardric on 07/11/2007 - 10:56 am
They had them when they didn’t need them and they get rid of them when they desperately need them. That is what I call an Operationally Disfunctional Social Policy (ODSP).
#7 by AFKAN on 07/11/2007 - 5:37 pm
Have none of these “Bible-believing Christians” EVER read Numbers 5: 24-24, which explicitly MANDATES abortion – and how it is to be carried out – in the goal of RACIAL purity, i.e.; eugenics?
This might explain why, given the heritage of His temporal genealogy, Jesus was born in…hiding.
The Old Testament Law demanded His death, before He was born.
#8 by Sys Op on 07/11/2007 - 6:33 pm
I’m just clarifying the above comment: Have none of these “Bible-believing Christians” –AFKAN
Using A=B replacement logic it would read:
Have none of Sys Op.
#9 by Alan on 07/14/2007 - 12:37 am
The authors of our constitution wrote, “We The People” meaning whites and only whites, in those days rational and sane logic was called commonsense, no explaination was required. In 1776 the thought of a black being equal to a white would have landed you in the funny farm, today this logic is forced apon society by white race hating political correct psycopaths. When one’s adjenda is the genocide of another’s race, commonsense and logical thought and debate is forbidden, the lunatics do run the asylum you know.
#10 by Daniel on 08/03/2007 - 3:18 am
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I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100% regarding DC, but it’s just my opinion, which could be wrong 🙂