Bob,
Remember you said that Fleming didn’t like you? Well, you win this one.
I just got him to come out of the closet for being an immigration fanatic. Since even most liberals are for closed borders, this puts him in the radical left.
IMPORTANT! As many people as possible need to go here: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=680#comment-172692 and call for his resignation!!!
Also, it would be nice if someone could hire a private investigator and out him in any other way.
Great catch!
Pain goes on to make a mistake. He attacks Simmons for supporting the enemy.
Don’t be a Tom Fleming, flailing out at your comrades. Either you misinterpreted Simmons or he stepped in a cow pie. If you had condemned me every time you pointed out I stepped in a cow pie you would have left BUGS years ago. You owe the same faith to our other comrades.
When you talk about a fellow seminar member, you are discussing our most precious resource.
And a note to everybody. It is hard enough to try to find someone’s particular comments in forty or fifty entries, but when someone is using a different pseudonym there, I have to give up.
GIVE THE NUMBER OF THE COMMENTS YOU ARE REFERRING TO, or use some other specific indicator.
I think it was Simmons who came up with the term “shriek and retreat.” Notice Fleming uses the same strategy, he gets caught, shrieks and then cuts off discussion.
#1 by Pain on 08/04/2008 - 1:42 pm
I asked for help and Simmons defended Fleming there and condemned me here. I replied to him here, not there. There’s no other way to contact him. But as I said, it helped anyway because it egged Fleming’s ego on, so nothing lost. However, I do hope we all understand that the Mantra rests on exposing, and not supporting, the Assimilation doctrine.
#2 by shari on 08/04/2008 - 3:37 pm
“I do hope we all understand that the Mantra rests on EXPOSING, not supporting the Assimilation doctrine.” A very important point. Fleming is now waxing eloquent about amalgamation, but makes the wrong comparisions. Never does he mention that ALL WHITE COUNTRIES and ONLY white countries are now expected to do this,with non-whites. Maybe Simmons could ask him some very pointed questions about that.
#3 by Simmons on 08/04/2008 - 7:11 pm
You have to know how to win, the strong do, while the weak “shriek and retreat.” For one thing that forum is not an open one so high decibel argument is one keystroke from being deleted so what do I do? I Mantra-ize the debate I make them explain themselves. Besides Pain have you not heard of the good cop bad cop routine?
#4 by AFKANNow on 08/04/2008 - 11:38 pm
Noting that Fleming cut off comments on this topic early – when it was obvious his cause was lost, three quick observations:
One, it seems Fleming’s use of Spanish displays one of the hallmarks of incipient dhimmitude – adopting the Conqueror’s Language, and thus, implicitly, the Conqueror’s Frames of Reference.
Two, it seems Fleming failed to speak clearly adn simply, masking his failure in a wall of excessive verbiage, and trivial bravado.
Rather like Buckley in that, really.
Three, most importantly, Fleming used the word “people,” when the more powerful and more accurate term, “Race,” is a far better choice.
Hence, when Fleming speaks of his “people,” he is implicitly speaking poorly of his Race.
Classic CONservatvie trait, that.
#5 by shari on 08/05/2008 - 9:40 am
Fleming is a treacherous toad. Nobody can trust him.
#6 by Simmons on 08/06/2008 - 11:38 am
I don’t know if he is a toad or not, but I would not want him in my foxhole because like his counterparts on the left I view him as a wordist fanatic. Wordism in the final tally relies on rage and fear, and is little different from the Jim Jones cult in results. Nobody can trust them, just another form of being rapture ready at any second being pleased to abandon everything for something/somebody else. The right question at the right time destroys all these little word cults, and the best thing about it they destroy themselves.
#7 by shari on 08/06/2008 - 12:57 pm
I still think he’s a toad. Don’t toads try to camoflauge them selves? I even think he has 2 or 3 toadies, who come right in, who are not sincere wordists. Wordists can be fanatics. But, if they are, they don’t try to be subtle about it. Act as if they were neither hot nor cold, just very astute.