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  • #9590
    Kingsnake
    Participant

    I generally operate under the assumption that the Asians are the most intelligent race.

    I find it easier to focus on our survival when their isn’t some sort of side argument going on about whose race is “smartest.” (Also, when the Africans want education, we can just tell them to go ask the Chinese.)

    #9597
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Kingsnake, don’t even bring up racial IQ. Even saying the Asian have higher IQ leaves the door open for the A-Ws to discuss something other than genocide.

    If they bring it up ask them if they are supporting some sort of eugenics program based on IQ. Then tell them you would rather they didn’t conduct their social experiments on your chilren.

    #9600
    Kingsnake
    Participant

    I try to avoid it; it usually comes up when anti-whites start trying to claim that every race is identical.

    That’s getting off base though, especially when they’re still skirting around whether or not they consider genocide acceptable (which is almost always).

    I’ll try to be more disciplined, in arguments, at least.

    #9601
    Secret Squirrel
    Participant

    @Kingsnake
    “I try to avoid it; it usually comes up when anti-whites start trying to claim that every race is identical.”

    You can also point out that they only say, ‘all races are identical’, as justification for the GeNOcide of White people. They never use it as justification to flood only Africa or only Asia with millions of foreign peoples and demand everyone “mix in”. Always bring every argument they present back to the Mantra. Become the broken record.

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    I have a question for everyone here. What do you do about someone who is on a Pro-White forum, and has ‘Anti-racist=Anti-White’ in bold as his signature? I explained why it was wrong and the guy gave smart ass answers, like calling BUGS people Hare Krishnas, because we follow the advice of a professional.

    I know he is a big donor, yet was banned from Stormfront anyway, so I don’t know if he is trying to subvert the message, or he is just a silly old know it all.

    #9604
    Gavin
    Participant

    @Kingsnake

    OldBlighty is right, “all races are equal” “we are all human” “we all came from Africa” “there is only one race, the human race” etc… These are all JUSTIFICATIONS FOR GENOCIDE. If you get bogged down with the statement itself and don’t address the fact that the anti-white is just saying that to justify the genocide of our race, you have been defeated by the anti-white.

    When I get one of these statements I just reply:

    No one is flooding Korea with non-Asians and saying “all races are equal so I’m going to blend Asian children out of existence”

    No one is flooding Nigeria with non-Blacks and saying “all races are equal so I’m going to blend Black children out of existence”

    EVERY white country and ONLY white countries are told to immigrate and “assimilate” our own race out of existence, ONLY anti-whites are pushing it, ONLY white children are being targeted for elimination, only disgusting anti-whites like you are cheering for it, it’s genocide.

    #9605
    Gavin
    Participant

    @OldBlighty

    I would say:

    The reason why I always use “code word” rather than “=” is because I have found that using “code word” drives the anti-whites NUTS! They can’t stand it.

    When I used to say “anti-racist = anti-white” the anti-whites would always say something idiotic like “that means that white=racist!” or some other dumb thing. When I used “anti-racist is a code word for anti-white” that really screwed up their brainwashing in a way that “=” never did. Using “code word” hits the anti-whites HARD and I like watching them squirm.

    #9606
    Gavin
    Participant

    Let him know that he can use whatever he wants, you just wanted to share with him what you have found hurts the anti-whites the most and he’s free to try it out if he wants.

    At BUGS we are not in the business of telling other pro-whites what to do, we are in the business of creating the most devastating talking points we can to use against the anti-whites and we encourage other pro-whites to use them if they want.

    #9613
    Wolfram
    Participant

    Send to meawhiterabbit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad-86eseYzk&feature=channel_video_title

    White people that celebrate Diversity and MULTICULTURALISM are similar to DoDo birds celebrating the arrival of pigs and monkeys to their island habitats. This diversity destroyed the DoDo forever. To say that whites should assimilate and intermarry non-whites is nothing more than advocating the GENOCIDAL elimination of white people. Both cases above demonstrate the eradication of a species and a race. But anti-whites only cry for the bird and care little for the future of white children.

    Prove you are not a white race-traitor by preaching diversity to the world; make a video about shipping millions of non-Chinese to China and forcing them to assimilate and accept Multiculturalism!

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    #9622
    Peter Whiterabbit
    Participant

    Old B, I don’t see a problem with ‘Anti-racist=Anti-White’. It is a shortened version of the sentence “They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.” Code word isn’t necessary all the time. I would never discourage someone who doesn’t use the mantra from using ‘Anti-racist=Anti-White’. It still associates anti-racists with anti-white…which is accurate.

    #9623
    Gavin
    Participant

    Pete,

    I disagree, when you use “code word” it is FAR more effective and personal. It screws with the anti-whites programming in a way that “=” just doesn’t do.

    #9624
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I agree with Gavin. Using “code word” implies that there is a motive or intentional falsity in play when anti-whites claim to be anti-racists, more so than “=” does.

    #9627
    Peter Whiterabbit
    Participant

    If a Bugster wrote anti-racist=anti-white, I would call them out for being lazy. If a non-bugster pro-white writes it rather than blather on about noos and joos, it is a huge step for them because they are on the offensive for a change.

    I am not convinced about the absolute need for “code word” but I will think about it.

    #9640
    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    @Peter White Wabbit:

    What if they only had enough letters left in the ‘Character Count’ in order to achieve “anti-racist=anti-white?” Would they still be lazy then or would they be better off just leaving it out if that’s all that would fit?

    #9650
    C Bear
    Participant

    @Genseric:
    I prefer to keep in “code word” and look for other places to cut.

    Seeking advice from fellow Bugsters,

    I’ve been kicked out of several forums, and assume this one is next:
    http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=4839257
    I titled the thread “White Genocide”
    “Regurgitating anti-white jargon does not make you appear smart. It makes you look immoral.
    The 1948 Convention on Genocide clearly states:
    Article 2(c), “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”
    And, (e) “Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group”
    Forced integration is genocide.
    Even Article 3(e) “Complicity in genocide” is punishable.
    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti –white.”
    Then,
    Post#8:Who let this fuck out of initiation?
    Post#9:I’m closing this because you don’t know how to make a proper thread.
    All before I woke this-morning.
    Am I doing something wrong, or are they just becoming more proactive?
    How do I keep the threads open long enough for people to notice?
    I kept the gaia threads open for some time by complaining to the moderator about “free speech.”

    #9697
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’ve seen a little friction on Where Did You Post The Mantra Today over the Jews.

    I’m not telling anyone what to do but here is my opinion. I think it is best to not even bring up the Jews. Billions of dollars have been spent convincing people that Jews are good and anyone who says anything against the Jews is a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    Besides that the Jews themselves have paid professionals searching the internet looking for anti-Semitism http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142374 so THEY can post THEIR talking points and get you banned. We don’t want to get sucked into a fight over Israel’s right to exist or the Holocaust. We want to get OUR talking points out there. Let the paid Jews fight with the guys over at Stormfront. Once someone opens their eyes to the reality of White genocide it won’t take them long to figure out that the Jews are playing a leading roll.

    #9700
    Peter Whiterabbit
    Participant

    This is one of my favorites from ole Bob: “Our issue is not demonstrating that Jews are all-powerful… it’s white survival. Our issue is not proving a conspiracy by an elite… it’s white survival. Our issue is not explaining how rotten Israel is… it’s white survival. Our issue is not liberals vs. conservatives… it’s white survival. Our issue is not electing Ron Paul… it’s white survival. Our issue is not opposing amnesty for illegal aliens… it’s white survival. Our issue is not about moving to one place or another… it’s white survival”

    #9701

    Re:this recent jew debate with meanwhiterabbit

    These are meanwhiterabbit`s posts all together:

    dungeoneer

    @Meanwhiterabbit,we are not in this mess “because of the Jooos”,we are in this mess because of the Political Correctness State Religion which IS NOT a jew-only enterprise.Being a BUGS member and WhiteRabbitRadio listener you should know this.
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    @ dungeoneer

    You are a fellow Bugster so i will keep this civil as i don’t want any disputes amongst us. I posted that for a reason, any post i make is for a reason. Condell made a video a while back that, in my opinion exposed him as a pink rabbit. His other video tried to excuse the Jooos and said it was all a stupid conspiracy theory. Of course i listen to FTWR and i know Horus has the belief that it is not a Jew only enterprise as you put it. I however side more with David Duke on this and think its more to do with the Joos than we think, they are the head of the snake. It is my aim to expose this head when ever i can. I will get a lot more people thinking if i post to the layman “its the Joos” instead posting “its the joos, not all of them most of them, plus some pink rabbit Elites, royals, people with a certain Y chromosome DNA and the political correctness religion” Its unnecessarily convoluted. Its almost Alex Jones territory!
    I suggest you listen to some William Pierce.
    Cheers

    This reply was modified 8 hours ago by meawhiterabbit.
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    @ Oldblighty

    With all due respect i was not dropping in on anyones thread. That was MY link i posted that in! I did not post it in a link someone else had made. The subject of genocide comes up in 99% of my debates-i strive for 100% but we’re human right. I might not post the phrase white genocide at the end of EVERY post but it sure comes up. That post in question was a drive by, it had nothing to do with anyone else on this forum, i posted it for others to post in if they wanted. Its that simple really. If they don’t want to be associated with me mentioning Jews in a post then fine don’t post in it. I see a number of other users have been swarming that link so they obviously have no problem with. I am hoping you have got your wires crossed here.

    Cheers

    Edit-Looking at the actual link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3u9LB32YYM&feature=watch_response_rev my post has 2 thumbs. Moreover if you read the full quote i clearly state “Non white immigration is being forced onto ALL white countries and ONLY white countries

    This is an attempt at genocide of my race, the white race.

    Antiracism is a code word for antiwhite.”

    This reply was modified 4 hours ago by meawhiterabbit.
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    Guys this is the last i will say on this and it needs to be put to bed. I have made a SMALL number of mantra based posts since i have been Swarming that have mentioned the Jews- i would estimate perhaps 5% This just happens to be one instance.

    If i feel it is appropriate to nestle something about the Jews into a Mantra post then i will do so. In this instance it was relevant to the discussion and it was a post i initiated so i was NOT dragging any other posters into a Jew debate. In the future i will not link any where i have made a “the jews did it” mantra if it is going to be a bother people so much?

    Lets examine my post for clarity……

    “Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for EVERYONE?!

    When is Condell going to admit that we are in this mess because of the Jooos?

    Youtube search “barbara spectre europe”

    Youtube search “barbara spectre europe”

    Youtube search “barbara spectre europe”

    Non white immigration is being forced onto ALL white countries and ONLY white countries

    This is an attempt at genocide of my race, the white race.”

    Antiracism is a code word for antiwhite.

    It ticks all the right mantra talking points, has a dig at Condell and links non awakened whites to a video that has awakened many to the real problems with European immigration.

    I’m flabbergasted this is being raised as an issue.Yes i know we have all heard “the jews did it” to death now but most whites have not. If Bob wants to chip in and say “never ever under any circumstances mention the Jews in a mantra post online” then great sobeit, you guys are right and i’ll be making my merry way somewhere else as i WILL be mentioning the Jewish role in immigration whenever i think its APPLICABLE. Remember its not just robots parroting a handful of talking points. We’re playing practical politics.

    PS-Please move this discussion into the “style” debate oh and i’m not attacking anyone here either i’m just a little perplexed to be honest. Anyway i’m off out to the gym. Have fun swarming! 🙂

    This reply was modified 3 hours ago by meawhiterabbit.
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    Did you read my initial post Meanwhiterabbit?

    Dungoeneer:”@Meanwhiterabbit,we are not in this mess “because of the Jooos”,we are in this mess because of the Political Correctness State Religion which IS NOT a jew-only enterprise.Being a BUGS member and WhiteRabbitRadio listener you should know this.”

    Meanwhiterabbit:” Of course i listen to FTWR and i know Horus has the belief that it is not a Jew only enterprise as you put it”

    #9702
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    If you suspect you are debating a Jew it is fun to toss in comments like:

    By your logic the Holocaust was not genocide because it was just humans killing humans.

    Because White people killed other people in the past is not a valid justification for genocide. The Torah has many examples of genocide committed by the Jews, did that Justify the Holocaust?

    Would you favor Israel being flooded with non-Jews in order to strengthen the State of Israel with more diversity?

    #9707
    Adelheim
    Participant

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/09/09/the-opposite-of-braveheart/comment-page-1/#comment-15015

    Anti-white: Why is it that you all think that people hate white people?

    However, when someone says that you all hate non-whites, you all say that it isn’t true.

    Whites are the only people in the last 400 years to literally enslave another race of people.

    I don’t understand this.

    Pro-white: You deny being anti-white yet you managed to say this: “Whites are the only people in the last 400 years to literally enslave another race of people.”

    Arabs enslaved Africans, Africans enslaved Africans, whites where slaves and had slaves.

    You ignore all of this and only talk about what white people have done bad, and yet you don’t understand why we call you anti-white. Go figure.

    #9710
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    On “Code Word”

    Growing up as a respectable conservative, one of the most frustrating tactics I ever noticed out of the left was their strategy of taking some sensible thing that some Republican said and say “well, everyone knows that’s just a code word for discrimination, racism, segregation, etc…”

    Then, without even thinking about it, all my smug liberal peers, happy they had a talking point, would repeat, “everyone knows that’s just a code word for [insert hate term of the week].” It effectively killed any real debate.

    And it was annoying. REALLY annoying.

    “Code word” stays.

    On “News & Jews”

    I am only concerned with the Jews because they are anti-White. And there is no doubt that they are the most rabidly anti-White group on the planet and they have the organization and the resources to be VERY dangerous to our People.

    HOWEVER, focusing on the Jews ignores the fact that if it were up to We the PEOPLE, the Jews would have been expelled from Europe in the Middle Ages. Certain among OUR elites are always letting them in. In the 20th century, the Jews wanted Germany punished for enacting sanctions against the Jews, but it was OUR elites who had to agree to it.

    There is another danger in focusing on the Jews. If you finger the Jews as the great anti-White force behind all our ills, and we get people focused on fighting the Jews, what happens if it really wasn’t the Jews pulling the strings? Well, a lot of that drive and energy focused at the Jews is just going to dissipate rather than let you refocus it at what you now insist is the really real anti-White threat.

    The third problem with focusing on the Jews is, as was already mentioned, you’re going to trip a rhetorical booby-trap armed with $100 billion in social engineering. Do NOT lead with the Jews unless we’re already talking about them.

    Our job is to stop anti-Whites. That means Jews in that they are anti-Whites, but it does not mean only the Jews. Anti-White behavior is What-You-See-Is-What-You-Get. It is obvious and tangible. Talk about that. The strength of what we say is that we’re saying things that people experience in their lives.

    Besides, once people start thinking about anti-White behavior, there’s no way they CAN’T notice the Jews on their own, and that’s really the only way around $100 billion in social engineering aimed at getting people to think that anyone who says anything unflattering about a Jew is an anti-Semite and anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

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