In an earlier article, I said that Wagner said that Odin gave an eye for love of his wife Freya.
People wrote back that I got the names wrong.
I was quoting Wagner.
I was quoting a romantic who got the whole thing wrong. No, Wagner did not know the proper names.
None of which is the point. I am too old to nitpick. I am not speaking from Authority as an Odinist theologian. I am saying that romantic Odinists are silly. I am saying that the real thought of the old German religion is fundamental to the entire basis of our going to the stars.
A good way not to get what I am talking about is to show off your knowledge of details.
#1 by H.S. on 11/27/2004 - 3:02 am
Hey, Bob,
Did anyone ever push your chair off the end of one of those porches?
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(grin)
#2 by Hank Parnell on 11/27/2004 - 3:42 am
I understand suffering and being made a fool of in order to learn things — seems I’ve done that all my life. But I don’t understand the “need” for salvation and redemption, and I don’t say this in a mean or “smart” way. I am genuinely clueless. I have never murdered anybody, robbed them, “oppressed” them; there’s dirt on my hands, but no blood. I am as human as anybody, but I don’t understand why that makes me “born guilty.” If I am to be judged when this life is over, why am I to be judged not on what I’ve actually DONE, but whether or not I accept Jesus as my “savior and redeemer”? This seems to me unfair, crooked, a rigged game that anybody can win if they just play the game “right,” and it makes “God” seem pretty damned petty and phony.
But then I have never understood religion, or religious people. They believe it seems in things that nobody can know, and it’s not enough for them to believe it; they can’t seem to rest until they’re assured that YOU believe it, as well.
“That which is far off and exceeding deep, who can find it out?”
Who, indeed?
BTW, I applaud your support of Walt Kehowski. He and I used to correspond a bit when I was a Web writer; he’s a stand-up guy.
#3 by Bob Whitaker on 11/27/2004 - 3:58 am
HS, what chair? I was the fifth of five kids. I was lucky if they let me sit on the floor.
Nobody knows the trouble I’ve seen.
#4 by Don on 11/27/2004 - 11:36 am
Hank has given a very good summary of the “non-religious” position.
When I look at the religious beliefs of a White, I ask this question. Are those beliefs racially destructive or not?
Bad religion = racially destructive
Good religion = racially preserving
So if you are a White and your religion tells you that it is good to adopt a non-white or to engage in miscegenation, then you have a very bad religion, and you need to reconsider lest you go to Hell.
If your religion is adamantly against such practices, and preaches doctrines which seek to preserve and protect the White Race, then you have a very good religion, and you need to get out there and convert others.
When I was growing up, I used to hear from time to time about “righteous indignation.” This meant that someone had finally had enough and was fighting mad. Isn’t it time for some righteous indignation?
#5 by Peter on 11/27/2004 - 8:03 pm
Hey, we get what you are talking about.
That’s why we read you.
You asked us to correct you, so we did.
You don’t look good when you call Sally, “Sue.”
We want you to look good.
Real good.
#6 by Peter on 11/27/2004 - 8:22 pm
I love the lemonade you are serving us out here on the porch. It’s delicious.
I’d just like to blow a few lemon seeds out of my straw: Wagner didn’t get the whole wrong, he changed details to make his drama work a little better. He really didn’t get the names wrong: slight variations of the gods’ names appear in the different Germanic languages. He based the names in his opera mostly on Old High German, the forebear of the German he wrote in.
Thanks for the lemonade. How about some boiled peanuts in a cup?
#7 by Horace on 11/28/2004 - 3:28 pm
I must concede that Calvin and his doctrines are not something that I would want to burden a finite memory system with, but the tidbits about Wagner I like. Didn’t he and Nietzsche have a little problem involving religious issues?
But his music. Ah, the music of the gods! And from a naughty boy, no less. Mind you, I am not implying that it has anywhere near the cultural significance of a good rap piece. It was magnificient for its time, but what we have today is simply orders of magnitude higher in cultural terms. Oh, the blessings of Democracy, Brotherhood, Equality, and everything is Special!
Is this God’s plan? Does he need an assistant? I work cheap.
#8 by Bob Whitaker on 11/28/2004 - 6:14 pm
I think I can answer questions 1 and 6 here:
Peter, the fine extra taste of the lemonade comes from some stuff a buddy of mine makes out in the woods.
HS, as you have suspected, I drink about a half gallon of this special lemonade before I start writing.
#9 by Peter on 11/28/2004 - 10:16 pm
Ah ha! (Slaps hip.)