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Pro-Misery Societies

Posted by Bob on December 17th, 2006 under History


As I said before, only when evolution reached the Aryan stage did a people begin to question the value of life itself. Suicide is common in the Orient, but it is always a sacrifice or an apology. Buddhism came from a blue-eyed Aryan named Gautama Buddha, and Buddha offered guidance on how one could avoid life completely. His goal, like the goal of the religion Buddhism came from, the Judaism to Buddha’s Christianity.

There is a similar historical relationship between Christianity and Judaism, but what makes me suspicious of the insistence that Christianity was ENTIRELY a product of the Old Testament is the fact that the GOALS of Judaism and Christianity are entirely different. Even in Jesus’ time, many of the Temple priests denied any kind of rebirth, and the concept of Heaven and Hell is vague at best in Judaism.

By contrast Buddha and Hinduism had the same goal: an escape from the eternal curse of the Wheel of Life, the misery of living forever as one animal after another, with respites when one’s karma got one TEMPORARILY into Nirvana.

A lot of people laugh at the Islamic idea of a bevy of renewable virgins, but in the Deep Wisdom of Hinduism and Buddhism, the first sign that one’s time in Nirvana was ending was that one began to have and smell bad breath.

Now let’s get back to basics. Aryans questioned the value of life ITSELF. They did not see life as a good thing, and the agonies of old age in those times was something Buddhism emphasized. This relates to those who think that hunting is bad. They assume that, if the hunter didn’t kill them, animals would die in a hospital loaded with painkillers and their family weeping around them.

An animal that dies from a hunter’s or is suffocated for five minutes by a lion is relatively lucky. A kudu killed by wild dogs on the African veldt is slowly eaten alive for an hour or two. Other kinds of death take longer.

So Aryans noticed that whoever ran THIS world was not kind. The Hindus and Buddhists wanted to escape the whole process. They did not want to die that way a million times and counting. Up in Persia, Zoroaster hit on a different formula. He declared that the god of THIS world was indeed evil. But the god of the NEXT world, Ahura-Mazda, was good:

“My kingdom is not of THIS world.”

But as ideas get discussed and people get paid to “interpret” them, Aryans tend to carry them to their logical extreme. Thus Zoroastrianism, which was the religion of the land Mani came from, Iraq, had by his time degenerated into a belief that this world was altogether evil, and everything about it was evil. Mani was a Christian, but he openly synthesized the two great religions of his time, the Christianity based in Constantinople that ruled Rome and the equally vast Persian Empire of Zoroastrianism.

Mani developed a Christian heresy called Manichaeism, which called for universal human sterility. But Mani was a latecomer. The same idea had been propounded in a modified form by St. Paul. Paul said it was better to remain sterile, but one could still attain heaven if he had sex AND a Christian marriage:

“It is better to marry than to burn.”

Some heretics wanted to get rid of the Old Testament completely, and each of them called for Manichaeism: “Sterility NOW!”

For two thousand years, the Church has struggled to separate Paul’s Zoroastrian hatred of this world from Mani’s doctrine. The problem is that they both come from the same source, and no one in any church can admit what that source WAS. They must maintain the hypnotic fiction that early Christianity developed entirely and solely from the Old Testament. Protestants have a harder time, because they must shoehorn every Christian doctrine into the Old Testament that most Jews in Christ’s time couldn’t even READ.

The Old Testament for the majority of Roman Jews was in Greek, not Hebrew, and Luther decided these must be false texts since everything had to develop from Hebrew and this was in Greek.

But, again, back to basics. Aryans have been trying to deal with the simple fact that, in those times, life was seldom worth living with a CONCEPT they realized: Something HAPPENS to you when you die. The concept of an afterlife was a major basis of Egyptian civilization, so that concept was certainly around a long, long time. But Egyptians simply provided for the next life the way they would for an extension of this one.

Aryans, Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian and Christian, decided that THIS life was, on balance, NOT something they wanted to extend indefinitely. There must be a Higher State in the next world, because they could not bear to face endless repetitions of THIS life.

To repeat the old Spanish proverb, “If life were worth living, we would not need so many philosophers.”

But in white countries today, we are becoming less and less tolerant of misery. That is the reason Western Civilization has roared around the world the way the Mediterranean roared over our ancestors when their homeland became the Black Sea. Every other civilization is built on a stoic survival of misery. Western civilization has an endless list of valid criticisms, but it is not based on the idea that one must find a Deep Reason to lie down and let the world roll over you. That idea only returned with the World War II Generation.

Contrary to popular stereotypes, even the Victorian Morality was not based on a worship of misery. They saw the superiority of a self-disciplined white society over others and they insisted on it. In Victorian times if you ate a lot of sugar your teeth rotted. If you drank a lot you could pay a huge price. A girl who had a bastard child suffered tremendously.

In Victoria’s day, infant mortality was huge, and huge families were needed in Europe just to keep the population constant. There simply was not time for a young woman to have and raise the children needed and have an occupation as well.

In America this habit of huge families ran into the fact that, in America, children survived. We had all the population we needed, with a little more natural growth, when the cheap-labor mania set in in the middle 1800s. We could pick and choose a few more good immigrants, but immigration did NOT populate America. In 1850 some 90% of our white population probably descended from pre-1700 immigration.

So Victorian morality largely reflected the realities of its time, not a male chauvinist plot to “keep women down.” Compared to women in most other societies in Victoria’s time, women were wildly free in the West. Most Womens’ Lib spokespersons are Jewish, but have you ever heard them discuss all those wonderful rights Jewish women used to have in the ghettoes and in the Middle East?

Back to America after 1850. The Civil War destroyed a major segment of the population that would have been born to the old maids who proliferated after it, but our population was growing nicely anyway. In 1921 nd 1923 America passed the Immigration and Nationalities Act. These acts were aimed at keeping our population as it was ethnically, and the fact that more immigration for its own sake was no longer necessary.

These Immigration and Natruralization Acts provided for a MAXIMUM of 300,000 immmigratns a year into a population of over over 110 million. It formalized the fact that Ameriuca was NOT “a nation of immigrants.”

In 1965, the World War II Gneration got rid of this 1921 and 1923 rejection of hte idea that we somehow owe it to the world to destroy oursleves.

The Misery Philosophy did not come from the Victorians. Only with the World War II Generation did we return to self-destruction as an ideal.

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  1. #1 by Elizabeth on 12/17/2006 - 5:14 pm

    In the 1800s and the first 2/3 of the 1900s, immigrants made an effort to be AMERICAN. If the adults couldn’t get fluent in English — and learning a new language as an adult is a lot harder than it is for a child — they encouraged their children to become fluent in English. The goal was to be AMERICAN, not American-and-something.

  2. #2 by Alan B. on 12/17/2006 - 5:55 pm

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    The history of religion is a weak point of mine, although I think I see the point Bob is trying to get across, if I am wrong feel free to hammer it home to me. Life was hard for sure in those days, but there was hope in the way of salvation in the after life, this was more important than any wordiest religion to this day.
    The White race was blessed by the assumption that life on earth was cruel but hope lied in the afterlife. This simple belief inspired our people to improve our lot here on earth we possessed hope. Inspiration and hope can pump life into a civilization, while the Egyptians are famous for the Great pyramids and hieroglyphics, can this be viewed as worthwhile. The Egyptians were forced to work under horrible conditions, their Kings wasted human life and resources building tributes and extravagant burial chambers for themselves, what it failed to do was inspire the underclass , they had nothing but drudgery to look forward to. I do know this, when the crops were in the rest of their time was spend dragging massive stones around that later became the pyramids we see today. The average Egyptian was just another beast of burden or expendable soldier, their life was bad, and that was as good as it gets for them. To me, giant stone triangles and weird animals contributed nothing of any real lasting importance, to this day it remains a tourist attraction, their greatnest parrelled againt the over crowed slum of Cairo, hardly progress.
    The white race lived with the knowledge that there was salvation once we departed this cruel world. So our people were free to make the best of a bad situation, while we were alive we might as well make life easier and more bearable in the free time we had at our disposal. Hope is a powerful force, it can drive a people to explore, learn and create, and these are lasting contributions that future generations can appreciate. While the Egyptians are worshiped for their massive stone works, few people thing about the thousands of miserable people who died or exhausted their energy building a worthless burial chamber for a king, a god who had sometime worthwhile to look forward to in the after life. The miserable human lot experienced their life after death each and every day, they were living it, what a sick existence that would be.
    For the Jews, the denial of a heaven or hell makes since for them, its easier to control a people who accept their miserable lot in life, if their victims had hope they might be more eager to rebel. I can not deny the good Christianity had on our evolution. The values and morality this religion demands IS civilized behavior and offers its followers a place in heaven for those who are worthy. We cherished human life and inspired hope, our people had a reason to improve our living conditions while we waited for
    our day of salvation, that sure makes life worth living, on the other hand, misery only breeds contempt that’s the world of political correctness and marxism. Normal human beings reject such nonsense , we revolutionized the world. The PC worshipers are not normal, its like those giant stone coffins, a total waste, period.

  3. #3 by Shari on 12/17/2006 - 9:30 pm

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    This is absolutly fasinating. For one thing, no I’ve never come across it before. Things that I have been mulling over are these. St. Paul, we are told was planning a on going to Asia, but in a dream, a man from Macadonia appeared to him saying come over here and help us, so he went west. Acts something. I think there are reasons why history has gone the direction it has and it was Europe that became Chrisondom. And the Jews have always been trying to find a way there but stay apart.

    Also I wonder if the loss of nerve didn’t come at least with ww1. Britain literally lost a generation of her “best and brightest” In Germany and Austria they were starving and Russia was under the Bolshoviks. We did have the roaring twenties, probably the first rebellious youth generation, and as you say Immigration and Naturalization act. We “won” ww2 but it was an empty victory. They were even thinking of totally obliterating Germany,talk about a lot of blood in the water.But the ww2 generation did not want to know that it was empty, plus they were bribed.Anyway I’m reminded of Christ words about nations rising against nation and I think WOW,could it be?

  4. #4 by Shari on 12/17/2006 - 9:41 pm

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    My husband brought in a CD he had been listening to last night. It’s ALL THE ROAD RUNNING by Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris. Anyway there are some lines in the title song that just kill me. It goes “as long as there’ll be a rider and there’ll be a wall, as long as the dreamer remains, and if it’s all for nothing, all the roadrunning has been in vain. If faith is hard, sometimes the doubts just get too big as well.

  5. #5 by Simmons on 12/18/2006 - 11:00 am

    Spengler and Nietzsche would off themselves in their own quest to escape their descendants handiwork if they could see us now. We are made to wallow in the miseries of the low IQ superstitious non-whites cultural cesspool, and we are saturated by the latest stories of the “Asian Superman” all stirred into the soup of Jewish hatred for white nobility. As for the asian superman hooey I know of a college educated asian woman who thinks animals are the bearers of evil spirits, I’m not joking.

  6. #6 by Pain on 12/18/2006 - 7:14 pm

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    “The Old Testament for the majority of Roman Jews was in Greek, not Hebrew, and Luther decided these must be false texts since everything had to develop from Hebrew and this was in Greek.”

    Not only was the ancient version (perhaps lost) of the Septuagint the only version that Jews used, but the “Hebrew” version may have been completely lost. The Hebrew version we have did not appear until ca 1000 AD. There is some evidence it may have been translated from Greek. The vowel pointings of proper names are almost everyone wrong (we know this from the mass of texts in Greek and other languages that had vowels for the names). Many of the mistakes in the Hebrew pointings can be attributed to the lack of breath marks in some ancient Greek texts and by misinterpretation of Greek vowels as semi-consonants. Greek technical vocabulary exists even in the Pentateuch.

    All this together with the fact that New Testament quotations of the Old are different in the current Hebrew text mean that the Old Testament we have today is not a reliable representation of what existed in the Disciples’ times.

    The current Septuagint matches the New Testament quotations better, but we know that it too was altered to match other corrupt versions that Jews claimed were based on the “original language” that only they could understand. But since the Greek Septuagint had been the version the Jews had for a thousand years, it is unlikely that they understood the “original language” either.

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