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cl and Ayn Rand

Posted by Bob on March 9th, 2007 under History


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AFKAN, I agree with much of what you say, but I have to point out that the author of Atlas Shrugged was one of these “demonic Jews” you rail against constantly. Also, Harold Covington is nuts.
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Comment by cl

ME:

Cl, when we built the conservative movement we also made it impossible for people to understand what things were like BEFORE it. When Ayn Rand became popular in the 1950s, a book or a television appearance by a conservative was as unheard-of as a mainline publication or appearance by David Duke was a decade ago. In fact, pro-whites are AHEAD of that curve.

Buckley’s appearance on Jack Paar in 1961 was almost exactly like that of Duke on O’Reilly, though Paar made fun of him rather than shrieked. I say this to explain why we were so ecstatic with Ayn Rand’s popularity.

Ayn Rand and Robert Welch (John Birch Society) were what we old timers — ask Duke or Kelso — call “everybody’s nursery.” Say that to any of our Old Soldiers and they will chuckle.

They were ALL WE HAD, and we will always weep senile tears at the mention of those names. Remember, that was the height of the power of the Masturbation Generation, and everybody else of age or influence was telling us that Tough Guys surrendered.

Jewess or not, Ayn Rand had more balls than that whole generation of male hens.

I was just turning twenty and I could not get a rather obvious point across – not my last experience with this phenomenon. Ayn Rand was an Eastern European Jew, just as Karl Marx was an Eastern European Jew. I had read Marx. When I read Marx, it was glaringly obvious to me that she was Karl Marx upside-down.

Both of them abandoned Judaism and got a Wordism to replace it. Marx said Paradise would come were all men were equal and the bourgeoisie concept of freedom abandoned. Rand said Paradise would be reached when absolute, total individualism was complete.

There is a similarity in opposites. When me and an anti-white are talking, we are covering the same ground: Do away with whites or not. White anti-whites are more white supremacist than I am. They insist that nonwhites are animals who cannot be responsible for ANYTHING.

We both agree that whites do everything, but they are right back to the old Manicheist/ Zoroastrian idea that all is EVIL. They insist that the white man is Ahriman, Satan. I hope I avoid saying we God. But we are both talking abut the same thing.

There is a similarity in perfect opposites. Rand and Marx were talking about the same thing, from opposite poles.

Nobody understood a word of what I was saying.

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  1. #1 by Dave on 03/09/2007 - 1:21 pm

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    The world is full of innocent people that ideologues of any stripe are especially talented at harming.

    That is because these ideologues are forever focused on everything but what is actually true.

    Johann Goethe stated it another way: “God save us from BELIEF”.

    I suggest if you really want to understand race relations listen to BWs Untrained Eye Audio titled “Tourettes”. In there you will find the whole truth of race relations, not just a part, but everything there is.

    In it, BW tells us what the real responsibilities of whites are and it is the best “sermon” on race relations ever uttered.

    Johann Goethe said another thing, more important than most imagine: “In life, nothing less than everything will do.”

    This was Goethe’s denunciation of ideologues of any stripe. The welfare of the entire world depends upon white people understanding the meaning of that.

  2. #2 by AFKAN on 03/09/2007 - 5:05 pm

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    The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies:
    Most of us came from a “conservative” political founding, and all of us have read Rand.

    I cite Rand because I understand the group dynamic – the RACIAL focus – of JUDAISM, which is our Real Enemy. Jews are simply nodes through which the cultural viruso f JUDAISM works.

    Marx and Rand worked to the same end, the destruction of the White RACE, through total slavery – Marx – or total “freedom” – Rand. Note that the libertarians have not accomplished one thing of value…

    Here’s a useful idea:

    Take any of our old political commentaries or analyses in which the RIGHT wing position was articulated or defended.

    Now, do a “search and replace,” and replace the word “RIGHT” with the word “RACE.”

    “White Race” might be even more instructive…

    Rand’s, and Buckley’s Wordism kept us in the intellectual trap – so close, and yet so far.

    Now, THAT is the intellectual trap the demonic JEWS have set for us…

    And, we get to send money to the safe, comfortable, controlled opposition!

  3. #3 by AFKAN on 03/09/2007 - 6:50 pm

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    The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies again to cl:

    cl wrote:
    “…Also, Harold Covington is nuts.”

    in reply:
    “All of which does not matter.”

    Covington has the intellectual honesty to see things in terms of RACE, writ large, well before the rest of us did.

    Further, he looked at all possible forms of government, and came to conclusions that make sense for our RACE, particularly in the light of RACE.

    One, only the White RACE can make democracy work; indeed, only the white RACE really tries to make democracy work.

    Two, democratic structures do not scale very well. Yet, they are the best, up to a point,

    Three, only the White RACE can make socialism work at the national level, and this can only be done by constantly reinforcing the cultural foundations of our RACE (Which Way, Western Man?), AND by bing willing and able to defend them against their pernicious RACIAL enemies, the goddamn JEWS, who are the nodes through which the Asiatic Hive Consciousness known as JUDAISM operates.

    Covington finally came to the Big Conclusion – that we all can NOT “get along,” save in very structured circumstances. The obvious conclusion is our own NATION-STATE, as part of the Next America. Covington places his ideal State in the Pacific Northwest for many excellent reasons.

    His State has an explicit focus on RACE at is very foundation, and this is incorporated into the Constitution of his new Republic.

    Think of the Mindset that allowed the hook-nosed Satanists to leave the Pale, and get (1) control of our money supply, and our financial systems, (2) control of our Government (Yockey’s American Revolution of 1933), (3) our mass media, and (4) our educational systems, and (5) their own country, with more than two hundred atomic weapons, SUBSIDIZED by our gold, and our blood!

    ALL in less than a century…

    And THIS is what the Parasites did with the power that WE carry in our Souls, in our very genetic heritage.

    WHAT could we accomplish if we took the same RACE-BASED Mindset, and simply removed ourselves from the control of the parasitic demons who walk the Earth known as JEWS?

    HOW could we begin to make this happen?

    A Change Of Mind, Can Save Our Kind.

    Covington attempts to define these issues, and answer these questions, intelligently.

    If anyone has better ideas, I am open to suggestions.

  4. #4 by cl on 03/09/2007 - 7:25 pm

    Thanks for the history tip. I knew about the connection with Welch, but not the feeling on Rand.

    I guess I can commiserate with the oldsters in this regard: Rand’s works were my first step outside the indoctrination. In some sense, they constituted my first fork.

  5. #5 by Bob on 03/10/2007 - 1:55 pm

    As an old-timer, I can agree with cl about what a breakthrugh that was.

    Those chopsticks were a real pain in the ass, weren’t they?

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