Debate advice and style first 909 posts
01/13/2013 at 4:20 pm #34659
Point taken, and thanks for correcting me.01/21/2013 at 5:43 pm #35140
Strategery question (a little ‘W’ lingo here,) regarding the anti-white argument: “people choose who to marry and have babies with”
Here’s a response rattling around in my head as a possible answer along the lines of ‘it’s called treason, dummy’ response to the ‘how can I be anti-White, I AM white?’ objection.
Any thoughts from experienced BUGsters on the value of this: “it’s called social engineering and conditioning, dummy. In case you have not been paying attention it happens to be a multi-billion dollar industry. People don’t pay that kind of money for something that doesn’t work. Anti-whites push racial blending away of White children in ALL White countries and ONLY White countries by glamorizing interracial relationships. It’s Genocide according to the law.01/21/2013 at 5:45 pm #35141
I should have said “glamorizing and promoting interracial relationships…”01/21/2013 at 6:06 pm #35143
We take them too serious and give them too much respect when they use the word love. This is what I would like to say but would probably delete or re-word to try to be expressive and clear:
So love justifies White genocide? So because there are mulatto by-products of LOVE, whites should just abdicate their right to exist?
“Oh, Love? Is it love or just f*cking? Does f*cking, the right to f*ck, justify White genocide? HOW ABOUT THE RIGHT TO LIVE AS A WHITE PERSON?
Have you clinically examined these couples to see if it was love or f*cking you want to defend at the expense of the genocide of the White race? I DOUBT IT.
Or, are you using a White value and concept, LOVE, to justify anti-white value, F*CKING?
I think you are just trying to justify White genocide.”01/21/2013 at 6:14 pm #35144
“White genocide” drives the anti-whites crazy. and I think that is good. It hits them like smelling salts and I think that is good.01/21/2013 at 6:29 pm #35146
Thanks STC, I actually have a variation on your ‘f’ word response, I’m not terribly comfortable using or alluding to that word at this time but will keep the basic gist of your response in my arsenal. I’ve actually heard Bob address this in one of his WOL audio tapes and came up with this “it is infantile (I think he said immature) to base your relationships entirely on some imagined condition of ‘love.’ Grown ups (Bob’s word, I like that one) will take into account the effect of their decisions on their families and on their future children and the world at large.”
But as an alternate response, I’d still like a critique of ‘it’s called social engineering, dummy.’
Any others? Yea or nay??01/21/2013 at 8:36 pm #35156
LOVE and FREE TO CHOOSE are such simple sound bites. Whereas we are trying to overcome so many falsehoods weaved into such simple terms.
When I try to teach and unravel, the words over flow and I’ve tailgated.01/21/2013 at 8:47 pm #35157
“stalin committed genocide in the name of “the people,” I suppose commiting genocide in the name of “love” is the next step after that”01/21/2013 at 8:54 pm #35159
Anti-white, you don’t care about my “freedom to choose” with whom I live, work, study, worship, and socialize. You don’t care about “freedom to choose”. You’re just bringing that up to justify genocide because you think the world will be a better place whenever there’s no more racism because “everybody’s brown.”
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.01/26/2013 at 9:22 am #35442
For Genocide-deniers, the first 13 videos on this playlist are evidence of White Genocide happening throughout Europe. More to come.
Useful for one-on-one debates.01/26/2013 at 9:58 am #35444
To counter the old “love” line anti-Whites give us i came up with this ‘short sword’:
“So called LOVE in a black/White relationship is really just LUST for White GENOCIDE”
I think it works quite well. I haven’t had anyone try to counter it so far.
The other angle you can take is to say something like:
“Who’s taking about so called love between two people here? We are talking about WORLDWIDE TRENDS that will bring about WHITE GENOCIDE. Why are you trying to get us to focus on a red herring here anti-White? Is it because you promote a future without any White children?”
Either way both are ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!
I am trying to work more with ‘short sword’ responses now. Makes for a better message i think.01/26/2013 at 11:14 am #35449
J Locke I’ve tried contacting Pivot and i never saw a reply, contact him and see if he will be available on the 19th of february01/27/2013 at 11:31 am #35488
Anti-whites say we have a right to remain silent on white genocide. That is our freedom…
wait how exactly is it genocide if a white person chooses to be with a non-white? to prevent it would be to oppress white people and taking away their freedom. Is that an appropriate price for an innocent white person to pay for the- so called “continuity” of his/her race? having their emotional freedom taken away?
You use this word “freedom” as if it has any bearing on our right to choose a future which includes white children. If white countries are so FREE, then why aren’t we allowed to live and work together? You are free to maintain ethnic homogeneity if you’re non-white. You’re free to introduce ethnic heterogeneity as long as the target population is WHITE. TENS OF MILLIONS of non-whites immigrate and assimilate in EVERY white country & ONLY White countries. Per UN Resolution 260 that’s genocide.01/29/2013 at 12:13 pm #35490
More from the Eurocide 24/7 video:
let me guess what your response is “why do you hate whites”????? how close was i. Come on guys you are clearly intelligent….so use it!
Why does your reply to MY charge of genocide against whites always include you changing the topic? Why won’t you answer my questions? Why is genocide crystal clear when the victims are non-white, but it’s so hard to see when the victims are white children? How is it freedom when we aren’t allowed to live and work together the way non-whites do? Why is genocide a crime until it happens to whites?
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white01/29/2013 at 12:13 pm #35489
Just so you know, ^that was on the Eurocide video.01/29/2013 at 3:13 pm #35591
I’ve been seeing THIS objection lately: “It’s 2013, blah, blah, blah, racism, blah, blah, we’re past this, blah, blah,” And, well, YOU know how they like to go on and on…(yawn.)
MY only response to this is, “yes and don’t you think it’s about time we all stop pretending that ‘diversity is our strength?’/that ‘multi-culturalism’ is a success/(insert your own example, etc.) and move on to something that’s actually grounded in the FACTS in order to build a stable, peaceful world?”
Comments, critiques, etc. are welcome. Thank you EVERYONE here for all you do!01/29/2013 at 4:33 pm #35597
Can someone please posts links to Bob’s recollections of how in the 60′s during the integration debate, our side WON all of the debates but lost the war? That is a cautionary tale that I for one need some refreshing on along with the moral of the story. Thank you.01/29/2013 at 10:21 pm #35614
IN REPLY TO INTERMARRIAGE / ASSIMILATION
“. . . Forced assimilation is recognized worldwide as genocide, as in the case of Aborigines in Australia and China’s forced assimilation imposed on Tibetans in Tibet.
And to ensure further that whites don’t preserve ourselves, our schools, churches, government, and media all preach that opposition to INTERMARRIGE is “racist,” and no contrary message is allowed to have influence or even be heard. If a young White woman’s parents should try to talk some sense to her, their brainwashed daughter and anti-Whites like yourself will batter her with the R-Word!01/29/2013 at 10:23 pm #35615
IN REPLY TO INTERMARRIAGE / ASSIMILATION
Equal opportunity employment
Diversity and Tolerance workshops
Section 8 Housing
Sub-prime mortgages01/30/2013 at 3:06 am #35626
In reply to “Assimilation (i.e. intermarriage) is not FORCED. White genocide is elective” and to the “SHOW ME THE MONEY” crowd:
Anti-whites push white genocide by using school busing, open enrollment, White privilege, White flight, affirmative action, Equal opportunity employment, Diversity and Tolerance workshops, Section 8 Housing, Head Start, Title 1, Sub-prime mortgages, making home affordable, terrorizing states and sheriffs who enforce current immigration laws, brainwashing our children in school and television, etc…
Wake up. We never voted on these programs that lead to the genocide of whites in EVERY white country.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white
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