This got me thinking about the book _Black Sea Sketches_ I got from “Chronicles” a few years back. The author, William Mills, mentions in passing that the bottom of the Black Sea is still fresh water (I’m going from memory). The first I’d ever heard of this was in some of Zecharia Sitchin’s stuff. He mentioned it as proof of the validity of “great floods,” particularly THE GREAT FLOOD. I didn’t make much of it at the time, but immediately took notice when Mills made the same comment in a “respectable” publication. (I suppose there are different levels of respectability, eh?) Anyway, Sitchin also makes a big deal in his cosmology about Mount Ararat. I actually couldn’t find it on the map until I read him–not that I’d been looking. I forget which one, but the view of Ararat from one of the Caucasus capitols is one of the most beautiful scenes on Earth. The picture is on the net somewhere. I wish I had a page reference from Mills’excellent book, but alas it has no index.
A Black Sea home is consistent with a lot of things, including the well known arrival of European peoples from the nebulous “Central Asia.” It also squares with the “Chinese” mummy discoveries. It never made sense to me that we would all and only have gone west.
Comment by CL — 12/20/2006 @ 10:32 pm | Edit This
To continue this stream of consciousness, let me also observe that when the Central Asia exodus is mentioned (which isn’t often), along with a complete lack of specific starting point (and thus complete lack of archeology, which is inexplicable) is a complete lack of reason. What passes as “explanation” is that we were run-out by some nasty pre-historic Ghengis Khan types. This is nonsense not just in retrospect, but in light of the logistics necessary to carry out such a move.
The Black Sea would fit all of this to a T.
Comment by CL — 12/20/2006 @ 10:45 pm | Edit This
Re Black Sea freshwater–
It’s the salt water at the bottom with some freshwater at the top (density, duh). I now think Mills was saying that there are freshwater fossils aplenty there–and that’s what was news to me.
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ME:
This is the kind of thinking that makes me happy. What I said reminded CL of some BASICS that had not geled in his mind.
I have a special problem here. If I were a Wordist trying to leave my WORDS to you, this would be easy. I would just quote Chapter 5, Verse 2 of Whitakerism. But hwat I really want is exactly what your entiure education has been dedicated to making you reject as a reflex action.
COMPLETE that line of thinking that you didn’t complete. Tie together things that do not tie together.
It was called THINKING FOR YOURSELF, and I am honestly terrified that it will die out with me.
And that last sentence made me tie two things together that others would not think of. We have been speaking of ourselves as a wolf pack. When my time as lead wolf is over, I want to be sure this pack is ready to he sicced on the “intellectuals.”
I want all the mental predation back in you that they leached out. You will be looking for the truth, the whole truth, and NOTHING BUT the truth. You will smell the stink in Truth. When you hunt the truth you hunt down our enemies.
#1 by Alan B. on 12/24/2006 - 4:14 pm
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Antediluvian Civilization Sought in Black Sea, Robert Ballard has discovered evidence that there were civilizations in this area. Ballard discovered a wooden ship and some other artifacts as proof. These relics are 300 to 500 feet below the surface. Reciently I seen a piece about the gold laden tombs in Bulgaria, they are earthen mounds and they can be found around the Black Sea coast, proof that a rich civilization existed there. Politics and lazyness can delay scientific discovery. Immagine that everything we were taught was bunk, the whole scierntific field would be turned on it’s head.
#2 by mderpelding on 12/25/2006 - 1:20 am
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To my Roman cousins,
Happy Saturnalia.
To my German cousins,
Happy Yuletide.
To my Celtic cousins,
Happy Samhain.
Please understand that the reason we have no
pre-Christian history is because as Christianity
spread throughtout Europe all pre-Christian writings
and cultures were destroyed.
We might as well have been African savages as far as
modern history would like us to believe.
But we weren’t savages.
Historians want to put our ancestors in loincloths.
Spears and facepaint.
So that the only difference between YOUR ancestors and
current aboriginal people is some sort of irrational
hokum called scientific advancement.
Or any other such term.
You, me and anybody visiting this site represents the latest
living person in a long line of descendents stretching back
through time.
I am alive today because my ancestors accepted the fact that
their purpose on this earth was to reproduce.
My existance, and that of my racial kinsmen, represents
the sum total of countless generations past to strive and
prosper against all odds.
What has been happened to us to make us betray
our birthrite?
My blood cries.
How about your’s?
#3 by Pain on 12/25/2006 - 6:14 pm
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Here’s another one for you Bob.
If you look on a map, both the Bosporus and the Golden Horn, look like canals. Long and narrow — with each shore parallel to the other.
In fact, the Turks who currently occupy our lands there call the Golden Horn “The Canal.”
A canal connecting the Mediterranean to the Black Lake would have a system of locks. A rise in the world-ocean’s levels or some other catastrophe would have breeched those locks.
#4 by Elizabeth on 12/29/2006 - 1:00 pm
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Pre-Christian Europe is still with us. A lot of it survives as assimilations into Christianity,
especially Roman Catholicism.
If you put a tree up this Christmas — no matter what idiocy you may have heard about Martin Luther “starting” it — that’s a continuation of the long-standing and very ancient custom of Europeans putting greenery in their homes at the Winter Solstice.
December 25 was a day of celebration long before the birth of Christ. Not only were there the Solstice celebrations (it’s a few days earlier, but not a one-day thing), the celebration of Sol Invictus, and the birthday of Mithra, there was also the Roman Saturnalia that took place in late December. No one knows what day Christ was born — birthdays weren’t kept track of for everybody until about a hundred years ago — and it’s most likely, given the descriptions given by Matthew and Luke, Christ was born during lambing, which runs from sometime in January into April.
The noble-born abbess with princely powers was a fixture in Medieval Europe until the 1200s, when society started slavishly copying the Classical and Biblical ancients, and these abbesses have been traced to pre-Christian enclaves of women under religious vows (priestesses mainly)in northern Europe and Ireland who performed religious ceremonies, cared for the sick, and taught girls and young women. One of these was St. Brigid of Ireland (Kildare), who most likely was either a pre-Christian figure or goddess. A lot of early European saints, especially the women, have now been identified as either pre-Christian local gods and goddesses or as a combination of an actual person and traits of a pre-Christian local god or goddess. (For instance, a lot of these saints are associated with wells and springs.)