BUGS leader got visited by the FBI.
In the far, far gone days when my little Reagan appointment included clearance for Federal jobs, lower clearances were a matter of phone calls from OPM personnel. You gave them three starting references and they then got three from each of those; the check was pretty thorough.
But when you got up to my own clearance and anything above a certain level, the FBI had a very effective method.
It scared the living hell out of my friends and relations. In their last exciting episodes of the Life of Bob, it was everywhere from unexplained visits to Africa to dealing with the Klan and militant black groups.
Then the FBI showed up.
And the FBI did NOT say, “We are doing a background on a cleared government appointee.”
Two agents would walk up, show their badges and say, “Do you know Robert Whitaker?” The exact approach they used with criminal fugitives.
It was enormously effective. During the whole questioning the FBI never told them whether I was being cleared for a job or being chased down on a charge.
I got a few pretty panicky calls about that.
Actually, it doesn’t really matter WHY they need, “Just the facts, ma’am,” as they face the same penalties for lying FOR me or lying AGAINST me. So the FBI is never going to be friendly or hold your hand.
Of course, all this was true a generation ago.
The “X-Files” had Agent Mulder doing the sort of routine calls lower-level OPM staff did for routine civil service clearances, and by phone.
In my experience, no such call ever went out of the FBI, least of all checking their OWN newbies’ backgrounds.
Any international demonstration like ours is going to be checked out.
Deal with them the way they deal with you, objective, FACTUAL, and little or no humor started on your side. Watching the old “Dragnet” program wouldn’t hurt.
I was reading a book by a former cop. He made a point which is well worth remembering. He said, “When I walk up to the car door on a possible traffic violation, it is the fifteenth person I have stopped that day and there will be fifteen or twenty more.
But for the driver it is a unique event. Even for somebody who gets lots of tickets, my showing up is not routine.”
When you get questioned, try to keep in mind it’s all in a Day’s work for the guy with the badge, be he DHS, FBI or a county deputy.
Tell the truth and let him get on to the next fifteen people.
#1 by -backbaygrouch- on 03/03/2014 - 7:59 am
If we are being “vetted” should a more cautious approach be taken? [A few recent events have caused me to think that I am blipping on a radar screen.] A mafia lawyer I know of insists that FBI agents come in twos. One questions and the other takes notes. But those notes are evidence respected by judges and juries and can be maliciously inaccurate. He tells his clients, not always the nicest people, to come to him or on their own produce a recording device for the conversation. The agents will then terminate the interview as FBI procedure does not allow an independent record be made of the interview. [One has to wonder why verification of their accuracy sends a brown river down their pant leg.] Am I in paranoia land, Bob?
#2 by Jason on 03/03/2014 - 8:27 am
I’ve always heard you should assert your right to have a lawyer present during questioning for just that reason (among others). Otherwise, it is just your word against the agent’s as to what was said.
#3 by Bob on 03/03/2014 - 8:29 am
Forget all that amateurish evasion.
If you find you must hide something about us, let us know and we will get rid of it.
There is NOTHING we need to hide.
You are talking to someone who did the questioning.
You don’t stand a dog’s chance, but people keep repeating that the coverup, not the action, caused all the trouble.
Don’t try to get sly.
#4 by Simmons on 03/03/2014 - 9:08 am
From this entry I presume to understand that someone other than Bob was visited by the FBI? The way its worded makes it a bit hard to ascertain that.
Years ago I stated that any WN outfit should have a direct line straight to the FBI, an open invitation publically declared. This would preempt the Assclown Commanders and useful idiots from making said WN outfit useful to the anti-whites.
Don Black gave some great advice don’t write it or say it if you don’t want to say it in a Fed court.
So that begs the question do you want to say BUGs rhetoric in a Fed Interview or jabber on about esoteric nonsense as the elected leader of your basement Bund?
[folks, see comment #7 by Horus w/link to mp3 –SysOp]
#5 by -Gar5- on 03/03/2014 - 10:43 am
I think they wanted to see if you were inciting violence (so they could keep a closer eye on you or us).
When the SPLC phoned you and others, I think their motive was to scare us into thinking twice about daring to oppose White genocide so effectively.
#6 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/03/2014 - 12:11 pm
Silly me. My eyes are so untrained. I would have thought it best to say “Everybody says…”
#7 by Horus on 03/03/2014 - 1:31 pm
“Any international demonstration like ours is going to be checked out.”
This is not a demonstration. But a day of global activism. Important Distinction. And a big difference legally. This is precisely what the FBI was checking on. Trying to figure out if they needed to get barricades ready etc etc for a public demonstration (RE when they dropped by to talk with Kyle Hunt).
http://whiterabbitradio.net/audio/FTWR-77.mp3
FYI. Truck Roy and I did a FTWR with Kyle Hunt and Renegade. We are trying to schedule one with Minnie IF she has time this week.
#8 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/03/2014 - 2:14 pm
Before I’d answer questions, I’d try to figure out who was asking:
“Are you pro-White or pro-White genocide?”
If they refused to answer, I’d feel comfortable doing likewise.
#9 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/03/2014 - 3:30 pm
“… for the driver it is a unique event. ”
Ah, hah.
And, do you know how you catch a unique rabbit?
You ‘neak up on it!
#10 by Yankee Rebel on 03/04/2014 - 5:44 am
5 Words!
#11 by Bob on 03/04/2014 - 8:03 am
DON’T TRY TO BE SLY!!!!!
#12 by Simmons on 03/04/2014 - 8:42 am
One thing to remember is that we represent mainstream sentiment by now (if anyone from the SPLC thinks otherwise please speak up).
We have the moral high ground, so we don’t need those little petty evasions that we once did.
Anyway once they conclude that we are entirely legal the FBI can investigate state and local governments for not prosecuting hate crimes when the victim is white and they can begin to compile data on Holder’s anti-white clique that is tarnishing the FBI’s reputation.
#13 by Jason on 03/04/2014 - 8:58 am
There may be some confusion on the part of us lay people on how to act when you are simply asked to give routine information over a public event …. vs …. if they are trying to charge you with a crime.
In this case, it sounds like routine info gathering, like they just want to know if they need barricades, etc.
The only knowledge I have of how it works with Feds was when some low level executive was accused of some funny business, and their lawyers (right or wrong) told them to be quiet without them present.
So, if a cop just asks you some routine questions about an upcoming routine event, being friendly, professional and FACTUAL is probably best way to go (absolutely NO deception – and none is needed anyway). Let him move on to the next boring guy he has to talk to that day.
Now, if they accuse you of insider trading, you might need a different approach (Martha Stewart).
That’s my non-professional take.
#14 by Yankee Rebel on 03/04/2014 - 5:31 pm
Formal Legal Notice Under The United States Constitution:
1) I do not wish to answer any questions without first speaking to an Attorney.
2) I do not consent to any search whatsoever, including but not limited to a search of my home, my car, my baggage, or my person.
3) I do not consent to being in a line-up or a show-up, or any display of any type.
4) I do not and will not waive any of my Constitutional Rights whatsoever.
#15 by Henry Davenport on 03/04/2014 - 7:22 pm
Bob, is your idea that most of those folk are meant to be on our side, and we should take the opportunity to Mantra them as to why diversity is a code word for White Genocide?
Your advice is so different from the usual. As usual.
#16 by Jason on 03/04/2014 - 8:10 pm
I’m gonna guess not. I don’t think there is any point in trying to MANTRA gov’t workers. Most couldn’t care less one way or the other. They just want to do their job and get home on time.
#17 by Asgardian on 03/04/2014 - 8:25 pm
Don’t forget HD, half these ppl push diversity but then run home to their ivory towers. I don’t know anyone in a human resources department that pushes diversity and lives it at the same time lol.
#18 by Henry Davenport on 03/04/2014 - 8:38 pm
Bob, since we have nothing to hide, when someone at Bugs Central has time (I realize that could be awhile with March 15 coming up), I’d like to hear about the conversation…what did they want to know, what did you tell them, etc. Your blog today was a bit of a teaser.
It’s kind of like…you’ve talked to the FBI, but not to us! 😀
#19 by Jason on 03/04/2014 - 9:21 pm
I’m wondering if it wasn’t Kyle Hunt they talked to, as opposed to Bob.
#20 by Henry Davenport on 03/04/2014 - 9:41 pm
They did talk to Kyle of course. You’re probably right…Kyle’s response to them fits what Bob’s describing. Kyle gave a good account of it in a couple of shows at Renegade Broadcasting…he said the FBI seemed relieved when he told them that “March” was just a play on words. Listening to Kyle, I could understand easily why he talked to them…they needed reassurance!…but before I listened it disturbed me.
I’m an irritable mess today and shouldn’t be commenting. I’m pissed at a lot of things, and one is that I need some information regarding how one of the petitions was promoted, and it looks like I may not get it. I need to know it.
We live in the “information age”? It seems to me that getting information is pretty hard, even from people who ought to just give it to you.
#21 by Henry Davenport on 03/04/2014 - 9:50 pm
Sorry, Bob, I misunderstood you.
#22 by Tom Bowie on 03/05/2014 - 11:41 am
The Feds use a mantra of their own for questioning everybody.
Don’t roll in their Gray Goo.
This is what I got from the article. As I’m doing nothing unlawful, short simple to the point answers. Heck I always operate as if the NSA is listening in on my phone calls anyway.
#23 by Yankee Rebel on 03/05/2014 - 5:53 pm
The following advice was sent to me from a private party:
From my own legal research I would recommend NOT calling this a protest, as that “term” and action are regulated by ordinances. I would not tell any officers that you are protesting anything. I would NOT use the word PROTEST. I would on the other hand describe this action as engaging in your right to peaceably assemble, which is protected by the 1st amendment. I would describe your concerns and dissatisfaction as engaging in your right to free speech (also 1st amendment). This issue is so important that it can not be overlooked, as permits for “protest” can be denied, delayed, or retracted. Who thinks they will let whites gather and “protest” with out any problems? The warning in this first paragraph ought to be spread to all sites promoting the march. Do not let them screw this up by their control over certain words.
#24 by Henry Davenport on 03/05/2014 - 6:16 pm
The fellow who mainly organized the event has said the same. In fact, it sounds like it’s from him.