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01/30/2012 at 5:48 pm #16663Henry DavenportParticipant
wolfram, I hope you won’t mind my having posted your whole exchange there!
01/30/2012 at 10:06 pm #16671WolframParticipantGood work Harumphty Dumpty. I like your response and appreciate your scholarly approach. I think you are partially right about the logical inconsistency of using ‘Everyone’. I say partially because I’m sure there’s a specific reason why BOB used it.
However, I think I was a little long winded and definitely ‘Tailgating’ the anti-white (ninjascroll6789).
I think BOB would have been more direct than me and accused (injascroll6789) with ‘justifying’ genocide right-off-the-bat. But I’m not sure how the pieces would fit together to sound (logical, succinct and not like tailgating).
I’ll work on it but probably not have time until later tomorrow. Thanks for your support and dedication to Bugs.
01/30/2012 at 10:20 pm #16672Daniel GensericParticipantBoys,
This is what Bob refers to as “tailgating.” You are NOT obligated to answer their questions. We are tasked with controlling the energy flow. Do not let them flip the script. Wolfram pulled it back on course, but allow me to provide you with a retort. It is shorter, doesn’t answer HIS question, and it effectively points out the IDIOCY and hypocrisy of the undertones in his question. The Mantra machine of simple truth:
Nobody is flooding Africa with MILLIONS of non-Africans and DEMANDING “Name me ONE prominent person pushing this geNOcide, otherwise it’s NOT happening.”
Nobody is flooding China with MILLIONS of non-Chinese and DEMANDING “Name me ONE prominent person pushing this geNOcide, otherwise it’s NOT happening.”
Nobody is flooding Mexico with MILLIONS of non-Mestizos and DEMANDING “Name me ONE prominent person pushing this geNOcide, otherwise it’s NOT happening.”
They only say this when it comes to every White country. ONLY White children are left struggling over what to do about this Morality and DIEversity. Those who DEMAND massive third world immigration and assimilation for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racism is a code-word for anti-white.
01/30/2012 at 11:21 pm #16675Henry DavenportParticipantWolfram, it wasn’t the term “Everybody” that I thought was illogical…I assume Bob is just using that term in the colloquial sense as I noted in parentheses. It’s the ploy of pretending to answer the anti-White’s question while logically not answering it that bothers me.
I think Genseric has the right approach, and it doesn’t bother me nearly as much because it doesn’t pretend to answer the question posed (tailgate), except to dismiss the question as being a red herring.
For my OWN peace of mind, I needed to spend several days thinking about how I could support that the Mantra is a true statement exactly as it’s stated, and I came up with pretty much that post I put up, and also a related conclusion that I like even better. (If anyone else sometimes feels the same unease about the truth of the Mantra as stated that I was feeling, and wants to see someone else’s trail of thoughts to a conclusion, here’s mine on this linked thread…and I am now content!)
http://whitegenocideproject.com/fox-news-republicans-must-support-genocidal-policies/
Genseric, thanks. But let me ask you and anyone else who would care to respond ONE question: In the midst of a thread overwhelmingly populated by posts of the type you suggest, which is our goal with all threads, do you think it would be a help to have a SINGLE post like mine that shows (I hope) that we COULD show that the Mantra is true exactly as stated if we wished. I can’t think of anything else I feel a strong desire to tailgate.
01/30/2012 at 11:34 pm #16679Henry DavenportParticipantWow, before this discussion, I wasn’t even clear that both wolfram and I were tailgating, though I knew I was. But you too, right wolfram, since you were trying to respond to the anti-White’s question?
So, genseric, I am asking if you or others would offer dispensation for that one tailgating post of mine if the thread were adequately populated with non-tailgating posts, or if you would not?
Whichever way it goes, I feel I”m on the verge of understanding something rather important.
01/30/2012 at 11:39 pm #16680Henry DavenportParticipant“it effectively points out the IDIOCY and hypocrisy of the undertones in his question.
I like that…I feel like that frees me to take his undertones as really his main point.
01/31/2012 at 12:02 am #16682Daniel GensericParticipanthd,
you wrote “So, genseric, I am asking if you or others would offer dispensation for that one tailgating post of mine if the thread were adequately populated with non-tailgating posts, or if you would not?”
Yours reads as if you are on the defensive. I would not use it, but you do whatever you like, big guy. I am just attempting to relate what has worked for me. I can’t COUNT how many times I have gone down the road Wolf (and what you wrote) did and not regretted it. If you tailgate them on just ONE ‘eency weency lil’ topic you feel you can SLAM them on, they will get you almost every time. Do NOT be surprised if you come out the other side rambling about Jews and Crime Stats and looking for your britches. Just my take. If you do decide to PROVE the Mantra true in an intellectual manner, then please report back what the results were. I want to add it to my ammo mag IF it works.
01/31/2012 at 12:10 am #16683Daniel GensericParticipantFor crying out loud.
Then use “Everybody in the education system” or “Mainstream Media.” How about “The Weinstein brothers” or the ‘anti-white establishment’ or ‘the anti-racist priest class and their cronies’ or how about Mommy Professor. The Religion of Political Correctness states…Shit. EVERYBODY that “matters” is saying it. But, I wouldn’t go there.
01/31/2012 at 12:29 am #16686Henry DavenportParticipantThanks, Genseric, very helpful! But I will try that one occasionally, and keep track of the results and report back.
And now if you will excuse me, I have some more nits that require picking…
Genseric, you did help me here. I’m much clearer on what’s tailgating now and what isn’t. And I do give weight to your experience with it that you mention. Thanks again.
02/01/2012 at 12:26 pm #16887WolframParticipant@Harumphty Dumpty: I like the way you analyze the problems we face when posting. I will save your responses and I’m sure you will see them pop-up occasionally on YT.
@Genseric: Thank-you for your directness. I will, of course, use your responses. They uses Occam’s Razor to cut to the chase and Leibniz’s formula to conserve and direct energy.02/01/2012 at 2:44 pm #16898Daniel GensericParticipant@Wolf You don’t ever need to thank me.
Not that it matters, but they’re not mine. The Mantra machine of simple truth is somebody else’s invention.
What matters is that the template works.
02/06/2012 at 2:33 am #17109Daniel GensericParticipantI am having GREAT success with very minimal exposure of the following video. I think it can be attributed to the call to action that I added after the Mantra. Where did it originate from? You guessed it. Bob circa 2002. Hot damn! There are gems everywhere in Bob’s blog! This is how I broke it down and set it up for the audience after dropping FULL mantra on the anti-white zombies.
“The real world is not designed to let you say only what makes you look good.”
“On Judgment Day the question will be what you did about two simple four-letter words, Good and Evil.”
That is how the narrative ENDED. I have received 6 different inquiries about what people can do to help…in ONE day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDub5AnYZ0
http://whitakeronline.org/021019.htm#fourth (Bob’s bit on blondes & White geNOcide……… in 2002!)02/06/2012 at 4:24 am #17112Denounce GenocidistsParticipantI think this exchange should be in Debate Advice
WW:
“I’m getting positive feedback but I don’t know which would be the best way to answer this comment:
(About “Have you ever heard of an anti-racism campaign that targeted any group other than people of European descent as “racists”?”)
“In answer to your question, I’ve heard it used with regard to blacks, Japanese, Israelis, certain segments of the Iraqi population, etc.”
Me:
I don`t like using that argument.There has been some lip service paid to “anti-racism” in non-white countries,and “racism” means totally different things in white or non-white countries even though it`s called the same thing.
In reply i would say:
Non-white countries are not forcing mass immigration and “assimilation” on their ethnic groups in the name of “anti-racism”,so those people are not being called “racists” for the same reasons white people are here in white countries.
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I suggest a change to the line in question to: “Have you ever heard of an “anti-racism” campaign in white countries that targeted any other group other than white people as “racists”?”
That shuts down the mentioning of obscure little offices in Tokyo or NewDelhi lobbying for more immigration as some sort of comparison to what is being done to white countries.
02/14/2012 at 5:36 pm #17603TheSeeker OfTruthParticipant@n8glenn It is a fact that anything that minorities do not like is labelled ‘racism’ especially as it pertains to Whites. Yes everywhere race mixing is pushed. O’Reilly stated that he didn’t think that there should be any all-White anything. What do you think that means?
@me That means you don’t exclude black people! Isn’t it obvious? He’s not saying a white guy can’t marry a white girl, he’s saying you don’t push minorities out of the country club.
@n8glenn Why doesn’t he, or you for that matter, say that about the Congressional Black Caucus? Or La Raza? Or the White House’s liasson to the Jewish community?
@me I’m not qualified to judge those organizations as racist or not, but I would point out to you that racist groups in other races do not justify racism. However, I think if you really want to join the NAACP or the congressional black caucus, they should let you!
@n8glenn No they do not justify racism, but they make a good illustration of how ‘anti-racism’ and ‘equality’ actually works here in the real world.
@ me Listen, when america is 87% black, and blacks greatly outnumber whites in the government and civil society, and have most of the wealth and privileges, then you can tell me all you want about how the NAACP and the congressional black caucus are racist and being against anti-black racism is wrongheaded and immoral.
@ n8glenn Yet you are qualified to judge me as racist because I want my people to exist? It must because my people are White therefore the wrong people.
@ me That’s not what you want. You want other races to be removed so there’s no threat to your people! Your people already do exist and they’re not in any danger.
To which I replied thus awaiting moderation;
@n8glenn This is just another justification for all Whites being racist, because we are currently in the majority. Anti-Whites call this White privilege. Nobody goes to Mexico, Jamaica or China and starts talking about Brown, Black or Yellow privilege. This is old hat, you seek to justify genocide through assimilation, but you only seek that in White countries.
02/19/2012 at 4:35 pm #17865AnonymousInactiveFacebook has an app called Status Shuffle. It randomly provides suggestions for facebook statuses. You can also put in your own suggestions for status. I have put in “Anti-Racism is just a code word for anti-White.” and several others. It recieved over a hundered views within a couple of hours. No one used it as a status so it has remained at 110 views. Other status that I have put in have been used and the numbers are much higher.
I suggest using Status Shuffle and try to find Manta phrases and set them as your status. It seems the more we use a Matra status the more it comes up in the shuffle.
02/20/2012 at 1:32 am #17885J LockeParticipantDoes anyone think the mantra is effective on people who believe in equality? I’ll bet the common cause of all Bugsters’ awakenings is the belief that nature has made the races with important distinctions.
All Bugsters will readily admit the mantra doesn’t work on every White person. For the people who are unaffected by the mantra because they believe in equality, and I would argue such people comprise most of the anti-Whites in the world, why doesn’t there need to be a mantra that attacks equality?
I would likely not care about a genocide-by-assimilation of my race if I fully believed the only difference between races is skin color, why would any of you?
02/20/2012 at 9:19 am #17898Peter WhiterabbitParticipantRunner, the mantra covers the equality argument…every White nations and ONLY White nations.
02/20/2012 at 12:43 pm #17901Denounce GenocidistsParticipant” I’ll bet the common cause of all Bugsters’ awakenings is the belief that nature has made the races with important distinctions.”
Belief? It`s objective reality.We here at BUGS deal with reality,including racial reality.
“I would likely not care about a genocide-by-assimilation of my race if I fully believed the only difference between races is skin color, why would any of you?”
Back to the old “No one cares about genocide” theme even though these very same anti-whites are calling us naziswhowanttokill6millionjews at every opportunity.
I vote for runner to be shown the door unless he/she posts the mantra.
02/20/2012 at 1:10 pm #17902-Gar5-Participant02/20/2012 at 7:20 pm #17921J LockeParticipant@dungeoneer In case you haven’t noticed, I have used the mantra tons of times in the “Where…II” thread. You seem to acknowledge that the common cause of all Bugsters’ awakenings is the recognition of racial inequality. If that’s the cause of your awakening, how can someone else be awakened without that same understanding?
Anti-Whites can’t care about genocide by assimilation if they believe everyone is equal. They believe Whites are doing the exact equivalent of assimilating with themselves when they assimilate with other races. Equality is the whole foundation of anti-racism and the genocide, and we do not attack that foundation. Bob even says to avoid debating inequality.
@PeterWhiterabbit “every White nations and ONLY White nations” does not cover racial inequality. It covers an injustice being done to Whites that can only be seen as an injustice if you believe the races aren’t equal.
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