Someone in Stormfront brought up this very important question. I quote him below.
Any political movement faces the question, “What will you replace the present system WITH?”
So here are my first thoughts on the matter:
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It is probably my Southern upbringing, but I like decentralization.
Not States’ Right. That means nothing any more.
But I would like a united white people who have districts governed in different ways to let people which white area they want to live in.
No, I have no real outline for this, but it looks to me as if technology is moving in that direction. It is less and less necessary for people to cluster around a single city or a single factory. I know people who work in South Carolina but whose computer company is on the West Coast.
I talked today to an Indian sitting ten thousand miles from here who is doing exactly what a person in New York would be doing.
In my lifetime the primary choice of a place to live was based on where you worked. That is less true every single day.
We really don’t care what system you live under if you are loyal to our race and stand together.
In fact, the thing that has always separated our race into defenseless segments has been that we got obsessed with ideological conflicts.
If you want to be in a Nazi society, you go to that area. If you want racialist libertarianism, you buy a place forty miles away.
So much for ideological fights.
Do you want an area where they speak German? That sixty miles west of the area where they speak Norwegian, you know, just west of the Afrikaans area.
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Originally Posted by Ozark Iron John
I’d like to start this thread in order to discuss just exactly what form of government a White Nation would develop. Would it be democratic? Theocratic? Would it be a monarchy or a dictatorship? I don’t know.
I think there is a common misconception with regards to the definition of the terms liberal and conservative when it comes to governmental philosophy. We hear the terms used all the time, but they often times don’t make sense. In my mind the terms exist on a continuium with Liberalism on the Left and Conservativism on the right. Please take a look at the following continuium:
Totalitarian — Religous Oligarchy — Monarchy — Dictatorship — Federal (Two Party) Republic — Democratic (Multi-Party) Republic — Anarchy
In my mind, liberalism is more totalitarian while conservativism is more anarchistic. Am I all ate up? Does this make sense to you all?
What form of government would a White Nation develop?
#1 by Antonio Fini on 02/16/2006 - 2:09 am
I was just reading about Edgar Alen Poe’s time in New York City.
It seems you could walk into a drug store in those days and buy yourself some morphine, opium, tincture of marijuana, cyanide, whatever. No questions asked. During a brief period when Poe was homeless he built himself a clapboard shack in a vacant lot below 14th street and lived there rent free. No plumbing either, but you can’t have everything.
This glorious anarcho-capitalism lasted till the civil war, then everything began turning to crap.
A more interesting question to me is what form of government will transition us into a pure Racial Nationalist state? Surely we can’t go from the Multi-Culti semi police state to freedom in one easy step. I think there will be some real jackboot measures in between to reform the system. Fortunately the apparatus is already being built for us thanks to 9/11. How to get rid of it after it serves it’s purpose is another question altogether.
Then we can enjoy a century of so of utopia before threats we can hardly imagine call for a new revolution.
#2 by Derek on 02/16/2006 - 10:58 am
It is funny…I was just thinking about this when you wrote it. I think that a lot of nationalists favor centralization so as to protect a national identity. I don’t.
I think that first thing is first…just get rid of what problems we have, worry about the details when that time arises.
I am not as concerned with a ‘white government’ so much as just getting rid of government intervention at all. No one really thinks “what am I going to replace this cancer with?”, or do they?
#3 by Mark on 02/16/2006 - 9:33 pm
I agree with Derek. I like “no government” or at worst, “limitted government” rather than government on top of government. But all of this is a moot point beacause we have to get whites to ban together as a group first and stop self destructing before anything else can be thought of. Personally though, I like the constitution and it’s original intended form of government, not that my likes or dislikes are going to change anything in the real world.
#4 by Peter on 02/17/2006 - 4:29 pm
Bob,
You are asking two questions:
(1) What will our governments be like and
(2) What will the white revolution be like?
The revolution will be war. The war is already begun, but our army of defense is slow to form. The better organized it shall become, the less bloodshed. Armies are routinely disbanded. The organization can take a form that will naturally allow for free long-lasting governments: recruit by regiments (but under a high command). Keep the army formally separate from government. Show the people how to rebuild beautiful towns and independent family farms that work.
Be ruthless, get it up to speed, and go home.
The permanent governments will be different. De-centralized self-sufficient communities or shires is natural. Self-sufficient, hardy folk can run themselves. The beautiful Medieval towns and villages of Germany, for example were built in circumstances that would appear to us as no government and no regulation. Think: today, suburban and rural communities have beautiful landscaping, but there are no codes telling you where to plant your dogwoods. People do this on their own initiative for themselves, and any competition with their neighbors actually helps. It creates a culture of beauty.
#5 by Peter on 02/17/2006 - 4:31 pm
I forgot to say that this resolves the Nazi-Confederate debate. The Nazis were a revolution, the Confederates were a way of life. One complements the other.
#6 by MarcoPolo on 02/24/2006 - 12:18 pm
I am involved in two symbiotic movements here in Malta. One is the local oriented Viva Malta movement and the other is Imperium Europa.
Both ‘ideologies’ so to speak are based around the ‘Imperium Europa’ concept. IE (in this context) is the idea that a common body would take care of affairs common to our civilisation whilst guaranteeing maximum self determination to its member states/regions/nations in as many areas possible.
It’s not too complicated but is easily misunderstood. In many ways it would be similar to the original United States but has a few other bits and bobs that differ.
I’m currently working on a brief little guide book as an introduction that newbie’s can understand it a little better without reading a whole book!
oh, great site and a great book Bob. You do misunderstand us Europeans in many ways though. Then again i suppose most europeans misunderstand americans 🙂