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@dungeoneer “If you don`t want to use the mantra then don`t,but don`t clog up our working area devoted to helping people who DO.”
I’m thinking of the people you can’t reach, which are the majority of anti-Whites. If you consider that clogging, I think you’ve got the wrong idea.
@PeterWhiterabbit said it: “You won’t convince anyone who takes the political correctness religion seriously”
They all take it seriously.
@cody “If you think it is “not a big deal” if White people are Blended out of existence, then nominate a non-White people to blend out of existence. You can prove you are not just Anti-White by picking a non-White country where you would like to replace the present population with a new one. ”“are you asking this because you have experiences of difficulty in dealing with anti-whites when they bring up equality when you’re engaging them, or is this simple an idea (theory) about a potential problem with the mantra?”
Anti-Whites don’t see it as replacing a population with “a new one” since they believe in equality. “A new population” suggests a population with important differences, which anti-Whites are spurned for ever considering. I have difficulty awakening some who believe in equality. The mantra still works on some people when they think they’d be violating the rights other races by replacing them. But after mulling it over for a time, they rationalize it with “equality.”
If and when the mantra is dissected by the mainstream media, the media will “remind everyone” of their “programming”, that there is no such thing as replacing a population with a new one since all races are equal.
J LockeParticipant@dungeoneer Not playing devil’s advocate, but stating why I feel the mantra can’t be used against people who believe in equality. That’s practically all of the White world.
J LockeParticipant@dungeoneer In case you haven’t noticed, I have used the mantra tons of times in the “Where…II” thread. You seem to acknowledge that the common cause of all Bugsters’ awakenings is the recognition of racial inequality. If that’s the cause of your awakening, how can someone else be awakened without that same understanding?
Anti-Whites can’t care about genocide by assimilation if they believe everyone is equal. They believe Whites are doing the exact equivalent of assimilating with themselves when they assimilate with other races. Equality is the whole foundation of anti-racism and the genocide, and we do not attack that foundation. Bob even says to avoid debating inequality.
@PeterWhiterabbit “every White nations and ONLY White nations” does not cover racial inequality. It covers an injustice being done to Whites that can only be seen as an injustice if you believe the races aren’t equal.
J LockeParticipantDoes anyone think the mantra is effective on people who believe in equality? I’ll bet the common cause of all Bugsters’ awakenings is the belief that nature has made the races with important distinctions.
All Bugsters will readily admit the mantra doesn’t work on every White person. For the people who are unaffected by the mantra because they believe in equality, and I would argue such people comprise most of the anti-Whites in the world, why doesn’t there need to be a mantra that attacks equality?
I would likely not care about a genocide-by-assimilation of my race if I fully believed the only difference between races is skin color, why would any of you?
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Yes, I meant Swarm, sorry. And thanks…I hope it sounds short and pithy enough, as Harumphty has said.
J LockeParticipantDoes anyone have a better mini mantra for spamming youtube than this? If so, please post it.
Everybody says there is a RACE problem that can only be solved when the third world pours into
EVERY white country and “assimilates.”What if I said there was this RACE problem that could only
be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country? How
long before people realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem, but a final solution to the BLACK
problem? They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for
anti-white01/03/2012 at 3:24 pm in reply to: Discussion thread: Pro Whites that disagree with our methods and want to argue #15161J LockeParticipantIt is hard work to swarm. I am not that good at it but I think you are making a difference in people.
It’s especially hard if you don’t like watching anti-White videos or reading anti-White comments. I don’t know if it’s better to stay and chat or just post and run.
J LockeParticipantThank you, those retorts are decent. Could we possibly find a link to the United Nations predicting that Whites are expected to be minorities in most White countries by 2040?
J LockeParticipantI have had large chat rooms of people become receptive after hearing the mantra, but the chatters wanted proof that all White countries were facing immigration problems. Since I could not give proof, they didn’t fully become WN. My point is that while mantra speech is effective, people want to be sure there is a genocide happening. I asked how to prove the genocide pages ago because of this.
The average person doesn’t have any awareness of other countries’ immigration problems, legal or illegal.J LockeParticipantI see your point. I don’t mean to be hard-headed.
Race is important to anti-Whites only when it furthers the genocide of Whites. But why is it important in that case? Because it isn’t important/because of equality, they say. That’s why I think the importance of race is still a necessary hurdle to traverse, sometimes. Don’t you think they can justify the genocide by believing in equality? Are such people simply lost causes?
J LockeParticipantA quick note on the importance of race: Race is a matter of genetics, and according to psychology, genetics affects everything about people, including intelligence, personality, and behavior. To deny the importance of race is to deny science, therefore. Perhaps this can be worked into some talking points.
It is proven that genetics accounts for %50 of a person’s intelligence, and a certain percentage of a person’s personality.
J LockeParticipantBy the way, this video on Islamic immigration is some of the best proof I’ve seen of White genocide so far, please watch it if you’re interested in helping to prove the genocide. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEOt__nAzp4
J LockeParticipantRequest: brief and thorough proof that all White countries and only White countries are facing massive immigration and assimilation, for the naysayers.
J LockeParticipant“prove that it matters whether Whites exist or not”
By the way, the answer given by Bugsters to this would probably something like, “You wouldn’t say it doesn’t matter if black people don’t exist, or if Asian people don’t exist. You’re just saying it doesn’t matter if White people don’t exist because you’re anti-white. Anti-racist is code word for anti-White.”
Well, the problem is that many Whites have told me it also doesn’t matter if Asians or blacks don’t exist just to win their argument and prove they’re completely anti-racist. Anti-whites will always profess not to care whether or not non-white races exist in response to the Mantra, though only in the moment, and it won’t matter because non-whites aren’t the ones being exterminated. It’s their knee-jerk reaction from a life of anti-white, meme conditioning
J LockeParticipantIt would be great for you all to form a simple guide that has Mantra rebuttals for every argument anti-Whites make. Rebuttals where their argument is refuted and brought back to the subject of genocide. That way a person could just paste, and it would also organize the dilemma of White genocide into a comprehensive and irrefutable document.
The guide could receive updates regularly and work in conjunction with the Whitestone Genocide Evidence Database, at http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/whitestone/
People will always say things like, prove all White countries are facing this sort of genocide, prove no non-white countries are facing this genocide, prove that it results in a future with no more White people, prove that it matters whether Whites exist or not, and on and on. How can you prove to someone what’s going on with other countries’ immigration policies and anti-Whiteness if they don’t already know? People ask “who is causing the genocide?” How can you prove that the media and government are partly to blame for this genocide? When people hear Mantra dialogue, they do become interested, but their eyes shut fast again if you don’t have a proper rebuttal for them for their concerns.
Forgive me if I’m over-thinking it. But the Mantra always brings a response, and how many of us can always answer every response perfectly? The exchange that takes place after they hear the Mantra is often what determines whether they become pro-White or remain anti.
J LockeParticipant@dungeoneer “You seem to be saying the average person thinks that ‘equality’ trumps somehow trumps the crime of genocide.No one makes the claim that Rwanda or the TheSixMillion don`t matter because of ‘equality’.”
How is it genocide to someone who believes everyone is the same race? Why should they care about it happening to only White countries if everyone is the same race anyway? Their mantra says that everyone is the same race, which our Mantra doesn’t counter.
@Peter RabbitThe repetition is ineffective to the person that believes everyone is the same race. Most of the world believes everyone is the same race when they believe in equality. To them, if White people no longer exist as White people, they will still exist as black and brown people, and in the mixed offspring of Whites.
There is also the lesser problem of convincing people that Whites are facing genocide when they don’t believe that melting-pots lead to any sort of genocide, or when they need proof that every White country is facing massive immigration and forced assimilation. Furthermore, anti-Whites will ask, who is forcing anyone to assimilate with non-Whites? It isn’t a law that people have to mix. It is society’s memes that people have to eventually mix, but what does that matter to someone who still doesn’t believe it is forced.
Come to think of it, anti-Whites have tons of more arguments that curtail the White race’s existence. For instance, they say America is much better off because of the cheap labor hispanics provide. I suppose you would say a different Mantra for everything wouldn’t be appropriate. But you can’t always bring them back to the Mantra if the Mantra is already made ineffective to them by one of their delusions. Then you have to get into endless debates about facts, which they don’t care about anyway.
J LockeParticipantFor me, if someone proclaims that equality negates White genocide’s importance, it makes the Mantra lose its effectiveness to onlookers. Then I wind up having to justify why race matters in the first place for the Mantra to be useful, which means arguing against equality. I think I have seen it mentioned that sometimes you should just move along rather than debate facts. Yes, they don’t really care about facts. But they claim equality is a fact.
Many anti-Whites say they would support our same genocide for all non-White countries because of equality. At that point you can’t win them over by proclaiming the hypocrisy of massive non-White immigration and forced assimilation into every White nation and only in White nations, and worse, they appear righteous and correct in the eyes of onlookers for their belief in equality.
I don’t think you would imply that only those who don’t already believe in equality will be affected by the Mantra. But equality is the first thing that pops in many people’s minds.
J LockeParticipantYour response about privilege is good. Their message is for people who are completely lost, yet it still throws a destructive wrench in the wheel. I don’t know if it can be said that the majority of people are “completely” lost or not, but when someone does bring up racial equality and the social construct myth in a debate, bystanders are apt to agree with them. It is the path of least resistance and an easy way out, among other things.
So I guess we just move on if they bring up racial equality? Even in a chat room where the conversation is ongoing?
J LockeParticipant@Scrivener
This brings up a good question that I can’t figure out. If someone believes in complete equality, how can White genocide in the form race-melding ever matter to them? The Mantra loses its effect on the listener if all races are believed to be equal. Why would it matter that only White countries are for everyone when race is considered merely a social construct by the listener?
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