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Dave II: Dave and Populist Forum History

Posted by Bob on May 4th, 2007 under Coaching Session

[Sys Op Note: Pardon the interference.  The plugin suggested by AFKAN, WP-Cache 2, worked so well, it used all the available server storage and jammed the system tight as a drum. It all worked really wonderfully until then.  That will all be solved shortly.]

I’m really slipping on all cogs now, and I’m worried to death I’m letting SysOps down, as well as others.

My last slip was in the article below, where I referred to “Dave,” but I meant the second “Dave” below, not the first one:


The UK Defense Ministry’s Development, Concepts and Doctrine Centre recently issued a new report:

“The middle classes could become a revolutionary class. The growing gap between themselves and a small number of highly visible super-rich individuals might fuel disillusion with meritocracy, while the growing urban under-classes are likely to pose an increasing threat… Faced by these twin challenges, the world’s middle-classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest.”

The report argues that the era of major wars between nation states is over, but that cooperation among nation states on policies that produce ever greater disparities of wealth will usher in an era of class warfare between classes of citizens across national boarders.

Substitute the word “white race” for “middle classes” and “class interest” and the Concepts and Doctrine Centre may have it right.

Comment by Dave


Dave is describing something very close to the Middle American Radicals (MARs) talked about below.

In Argentina, it was the independent truckers who put down the Communist Allende who had been elected in a three-way race and installed Pinochet. The independent truckers owned their own trucks, and were the “petit Bourgeois” described by Marxists as the basis is fascism.

They are also the “kulaks” whom Stalin destroyed in his Ukrainian slaughter. They are working people who have earned something of their own. They are what WE call “the middle class.” They are the Americans I worked with.

And this is what Donald I. Warren saw. The problem with any form of Wordism, including “progressivism” and Marxism, is that it is a STATIC answer to the Inevitable Future of Man. These last two are based on the Ex Oriente Lux view, which cannot escape its Middle Eastern roots. It sees society as pyramid shaped, with the rich on top and the exploited, illiterate, hopeless masses on the bottom.

And, as always, this means no form of Wordism WORKS. Marx predicted that, as industry grew, the masses would become more and more helpless and their income would go down to subsistence level.

Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, there has been a growing petit bourgeois, kulak, middle class in the West. But to explain this, I must first get by what every whiner loves to whine, “The rich get richer the poor get poorer.” Just please keep that whine back a bit.

Dave highlighted the growing class tension that ACTUALLY exists. It goes back to a quote from Charles Issawi, an Egyptian-American professor. It said that America is NOT pyramid-shaped, it is EGG-shaped. Instead of a pyramid where the huge bottom is at odds with the peak, we and every other Western country have a situating where the MIDDLE is big and the poor on the bottom and the rich make common cause in a war on the middle majority.

This violates everything on which progressivism and Marxism base their Middle Eastern World View. The revolutionary class is normally very conservative. Nothing is more conservative than a man who has worked his tail off and now owns his own truck or a woman who has worked her tail off and owns a beauty shop.

So the armchair whiner said I caused n revolution in my key role of helping Wallace become a major force and then making Wallace Democrats into Reagan Democrats. But, FOR THEM, the most conservative element of society, it me twenty years. It was a revolution FO THEM. They will never be the same again, though they lapse back into the Silent Majority Mode regularly. That is GENERIC conservatism. It was an inertia it took ME two decades to break, thought the armchair strategist could have done it with a limp wave of his hand.

He didn’t. I did.

But the realization is coming once again upon our kulaks that the very rich, of whom the Hollywood Elite is only the tip of the iceberg, is their ENEMY, and the welfare class is also their enemy. To radicalize the most naturally conservative element in society can only be done by a titanic effort, one which the forces of Political Correctness are putting forth by making our petit bourgeoisie, the hated “white guy in front of the TV in a sweatshirt with a beer in his hand” the Nigger and kike of our society.

As Dave shrewdly notes, revolutions always BEGIN by using the terminology of the society they are beginning to overthrow. So this has always been put in terms of a CLASS struggle, the language of Political Correctness, progressivism, and Marxism.

Since Donald I Warren’s day, it is harder and harder for people under the radar to suppress the obvious fact that now, since the inpouring of the third world into EVERY white country, a RACE struggle.

I’m TIRED. I’ll do Dave III into this when I get some energy back.

  1. #1 by Dave on 05/04/2007 - 12:50 pm

    “The ‘melting pot’ metaphor captures one of the great strengths of your country, and is an inspiration to others around the world, as we face the continuing social challenges ahead”. Comment by Queen Elizabeth yesterday before the Virginia Legislature.

    What more can be said? The genius social architects of the Anglo-Saxon societies, fully supported by the British aristocracy (nitwits of inherited privilege), have created the most balkanized societies imaginable that they count as progress in their delusional millennialism.

    The wealthy are wealthy (Jew or not) because they have the cash flow to support the carrying charges on trophy assets (the most choice residential, commercial, and agricultural real estate).

    This cash flow comes from their business enterprises and is largely turned over to government in the form of property taxes and in direct and indirect fees for development permits.

    Let me say it again: It is largely turned over to government in the form of property taxes and in direct and indirect fees for development permits.

    We indirectly pay these costs in the prices we pay for consumer goods and services.

    Yet Queen Elizabeth, in her genius, is a supporter of the idea that non-whites (mostly Moslems) in Britain should be forgiven these carrying charges in the name of multiculturalism.

    Accordingly, Moslems are inundating Great Britain to take advantage of the giveaways, fully supported by the British aristocracy.

    Just think of the stupidity of this policy! It is unbelievable in the sheer magnitude of its blindness, arrogance, and stupidity.

    It is a formula for revolution if there ever was a formula for revolution.

    Yet this genius, Queen Elizabeth, dismisses this as a “social challenge”.

    Americans are not as passive and beat down as the English yet Queen Elizabeth may swing from a noose yet.

    Competent, successful, middle class white people are not going to tolerate being enslaved by the government’s carrying charges while nonwhites and foreigners are forgiven those charges.

    They will burn the edifices of government to the ground first. Count on it.

  2. #2 by AFKAN on 05/04/2007 - 1:55 pm

    One, apologies to SysOp. It was a suggestion that had worked else , but, obviously, it is not the best suggestion, all of the time.

    Particularly here!

    Two, Dave had hit on a fascinating point concerning the role of Positive Racism in the future.

    Sir James Goldsmith created the Referendum Party in England solely to act as a counterweight to the (Jewish-controlled) Elite’s unchallenged march for integration into Europe, starting with the adoption of the Euro. They lost the ’97 Election, also known as the Blair Coronation, but Goldsmith was quite happy. When interviewed he said, “We have made all of the parties, Referendum parties.”

    When Kevin Phillips wrote on “The Emerging Republican Majority,” he knew the key to Republican success was “the South” – a genteel euphemism for White People Who Worked For A Living. Their Northern brethren were referred to as “the hard-hats.”

    Then, they spoke – and acted – as ONE in defining and dealing with the collapse of Society demonstrated by the 1968 Democratic National Convention riots.

    Today, I think they are reacting the same way to the attack on America – particularly at the economic level, AND the Quality of Life level – by the illegals. As well, they see the illegals as being coddled by the Elites, as were the hippies and draft deferred (spelled “dodging”) college students.

    This gradual slide into decline that we are experiencing is a reflection of our failure to deal with the issues of RACE, at the level of the nation-state. At the same time, ONE event crystallizes the Awareness. Then, it was the riots at the Democratic National Convention.

    Now, I suspect, it was the firing of Don Imus.

    I am heartened by the firestorm that this has created in talk radio discussions; it is a simple to understand event that means One Thing, and every White person understands the non-verbal message.

    Further proof of the hypothesis:

    Yesterday, the LAPD fought BACK!

    The times, they are a’changin!

  3. #3 by Sys Op on 05/04/2007 - 1:59 pm

    Suggestions are just that… they certainly don’t tie you responsibility upon implementation. I saw that that might be a problem as I set it up and tested and it worked so well. I seriously miscalculated the KB worth and searching capacity of late-night users (probably Europe). It was only set to pre-cache 2007 entries and each single page cache only lasts an hour and drops out of the folder (which would cover a storm attack easily). Once we’re on the new server, that will all be moot.

  4. #4 by Simmons on 05/04/2007 - 2:55 pm

    And to think the lefties and the respectables are writing our race laws as we speak. All these “hate crimes, speach” non-sense laws beg for their use against the left. One college kid could take down an entire studies program by filing a suit against said program, one candidate could note the double standard and we are off to the races. I nominate Richard as the White Man of the Month.

  5. #5 by shari on 05/04/2007 - 6:01 pm

    I’ve been hoping that one of the Duke lacross players would get smart and start suing everybody, but, I caught one, being interviewed, and he is, apparantly, still a sap.

  6. #6 by Stevenp on 05/04/2007 - 7:13 pm

    California (as usual) presents a portrait of where the nation is heading:

    “Californication”—Increasing Inequality—Surprisingly Good For Democratic Pols

    By Steve Sailer

    The blue state-red state IQ hoax with which so many millions of disappointed Democrats have consoled themselves since the election can seem initially plausible. Blue states tend to have more prestigious universities, famous research centers, and sophisticated cities than red states.

    But in reality, as I’ve shown, there is little overall difference between the average educational attainments between Democrats and Republicans.

    Democrats, however, tend to be more inegalitarian, with higher highs and lower lows than the more middling Republicans.

    This is clearly visible in the biggest blue state of them all, California.

    Census Bureau figures show that California, traditionally America’s trendsetter, is pioneering a new kind of class structure—ominously like that of highly unequal Latin American countries like Brazil or Mexico.

    California, long viewed as the promised land of the American middle class, is slowly developing a novel U-shaped social system. Relatively large numbers of both the well-educated and the badly-educated are sandwiching a shrinking middle.

    This trend toward greater inequality might seem at odds with the ideals of the Democratic Party. But, in fact, it could bode well for them. The party is ceasing to represent blue collar workers. Instead, it has morphed into an alliance between the elite and the underclass.

    According to a Census Bureau Supplementary Survey of 700,000 households across the country, California boasts 2 million recipients of graduate degrees (master’s or Ph.D. or professional diplomas such as M.D. or J.D.).

    Yet this sophisticated state also is home to 2.2 million adults who never even attended high school. Their ranks were up 7 percent during the 1990s. By contrast, in the rest of America, the number of adults who had never seen the inside of a high school dropped by 30 percent over that decade.

    The Golden State is now one of only three states with above average percentages both of people who never got past elementary school and of holders of graduate degrees. (The other two are New Mexico and Rhode Island.) In California, 10.7 percent of grownups have no more than elementary schooling, compared to only 6.4 percent in the other 49 states.

    Of all the states in the Union, California now has the lowest percentage of its population with a midlevel education consisting of at least a high school diploma or some college, but not a bachelor’s degree from a four-year college.

    Continued at

  7. #7 by Peter on 05/05/2007 - 11:28 pm

    again, not germane to the point, but Aleende/Pinochet happened in Chile, not Argentina. Just an editing function.

  8. #8 by Alan on 05/07/2007 - 7:10 pm


    “Get Off My back”

    The middle class in America is made up by whites who work harder to support the brown skin slugs who live on goverment hand outs paied through taxes the exploited white middle class are forced to pay, aka, payroll theft for instance. The goverment, controlled by elitest who remind the white middle class how they owe their brown skin brethren this handout, evening the playing field they call it. When a first class citizen is forced to take on the roll of a second class citizen by goverment, it doesn’t take any fool long to see how twisted and screwed up this system is, whites are used to pay for the hand outs to the brown skins, in turn the brown skins vote for their care takers in government, as their numbers grow and the whites shrink, the nanny state gets stronger, its hanging yourself with your own rope.

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