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Posted by Bob on May 15th, 2007 under Coaching Session

I criticized AFKAN for repeating the same point over and over HERE. We got it. That repetition is needed out THERE.

I would appreciate it if no one else would approve AFKAN until I see them. What I am criticizing is his writing style, and I am always open to someone telling me if I am being unfair.

So let me get on with my personal criticism. First, a critical point for all of us as writers: AFKAN is LAZY. It is time for us to stop taking this critical rule of writing as a joke: WORK in writing is BREVITY in writing. This last AFKAN entry was 606 words.

To say the same thing for the umpteenth time.

The Mantra took me as long to develop as one of my BOOKS.

Second is a matter of common courtesy. AFKAN has touted his hero Covington at least a dozen times here. I pointed out that this is NOT Covington’s blog. He continued to push Covington.

This is just plain rude.

I ask for 1) courtesy, 2) for a person to not say the same thing more than a dozen times HERE, and 3) do some WORK to cut comment length.

None of this strikes me as unreasonable.

  1. #1 by Al Parker on 05/15/2007 - 1:52 pm

    AFKAN, I was stunned to see that you answered Bob’s response to your comment with almost the exact same comment and did not address his suggestions. You seem to be looking for an intellectual position in the pro-white field rather than a hands-on working position. If that’s the case I don’t blame you because no professor would want to teach those who are hostile or don’t want to listen.

    On another note, I think there is no way today to eliminate the need for making arguments at length. I think there are many who simply don’t trust arguments that are short and sweet (despite the fact that the shortest proofs are the most elegant). They want to know if the “smart people” believe this stuff too, and they want the bibliographies to see what other smart people believe in it. I don’t see a substitute for a thick book by an author with name recognition to supplement a given mantra.

    As far as Harold Covington goes, he is a One True Way man who burned out years ago and spends almost all of his time complaining about the movement (or non-movement) and attacking its leadership and rank-and-file (I guess what you would call a “Webb”). He would surely attack you, AFKAN, for TALKING about his “analytical framework” instead of putting your stuff in a van and heading to the northwest.

  2. #2 by Sys Op on 05/15/2007 - 3:13 pm

    He would surely attack you, AFKAN, for TALKING about his “analytical framework” instead of putting your stuff in a van and heading to the northwest. –Al Parker

    OOOOOhhh, so THAT’S what this is all about.

    OK. I am a native of the northwest. I have lived and worked and played and fumed in 3 states and vacationed in 3 others ALL of my life until 2000. I have more knowledge of those states and governments and problems then most people know about their home states, ever.

    You do NOT want to move there unless you happen to fall in love with an area and have a GOOD! job and are ready to be used by all levels of government like nowhere else in the U.S. They are no better for race reasons than any other state. They will afford you nothing we are not already getting elsewhere.

    Get your own lives in order. Get your own finances unhooked from wrong practices. Get your own families in order and be prepared to be part of all the rest of the stabilizing groups that are forming around you and you don’t EVEN know it. There *are* no more “Utahs” and they only made it work because outsiders called off their dogs because the persecution was immoral, more immoral than polygamy. They didn’t accomplish it “all on their own.”

    There is no need for anymore “Utahs” because it all belongs to us.

  3. #3 by AFKAN on 05/15/2007 - 3:28 pm

    The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies to SysOp:

    You made some excellent points, and I have made pretty much the same points on VNN.

    I mention Covington, and the Northwest Trilogy, to get people’s minds jump started that organizing around RACE – First, Foremost, Forever – is not only possible, but desirable, AND doable.

    Parenthetically, the Mormon Settlers were not building Utah; they were building their own nation, “Our Beloved Deseret.”

    Anyway, I can see that mentioning anything outside The Plan – which I have never seen – is not workable here, and I understand that.

    As well, Bob said he wanted fresh, clean thinking, and did not want a bunch of parrots parroting “Whitakerisms.”

    Those last two sentences seem to contradict one another, and that drives someone to distraction, at best, and madness, at worst.

  4. #4 by George on 05/16/2007 - 1:12 am

    Not for nothing guys Covington is right. When your in your 20’s and looking for a secure future for your young family you need more than words. I have to get up every day with the dreaded alarm clock do the movement leader’s have to do the same thing? lol. That’s the difference guy’s we need more in the real world. Unless any of these leader’s can come up with somthing better. Let me know. And no I am not a professional writer just an electrician.

  5. #5 by Stevenp on 05/16/2007 - 10:37 am

    AFKAN, after one month testing, 2000 visitors drawn in and some 20,000 people exposed to the mantra/riddle, I’ve only managed to get two (2) people interested in pro-white activism. Of these two neither has followed the guide and set up the activism platform.

    What I’ve learnt after this one month test is that getting people to do something as simple as copy/pasting the mantra or setting up a blog/tracker account is a NIGHTMARE. I’m therefore re-writing the handbook to make it even simpler.

    I won’t get into the merits or demerits of the Convington plan. I’ll just state point blank that if you’re trying to talk people into doing something that’s actually hard, like migrating to another state, you’re dead in the water. I’m sorry to break this to you but that’s the way it is.

    SysOp, I’m toying with the idea of either setting up dozens of ready made activism platforms and handing them out to activists OR finding a way to cut out the activism platform altogether. To do that I was thinking about having activists use unique links. For example:

    As I understand it anything that follows the question mark in a URL is ignored. But is there a tracker that picks up this ID? Is there another way of providing activists with unique URLs to send traffic to short of making tons of metatag-relay pages?

  6. #6 by Stevenp on 05/16/2007 - 10:51 am

    [sprung – I clicked]

    By the way folks please do me a favor and go to

    and click on one of the three links.

    I’m trying to establish whether the question mark technique works.

  7. #7 by Bob on 05/16/2007 - 11:59 am

    StevenP, I went there and all of it seems to work.

  8. #8 by Stevenp on 05/16/2007 - 6:13 pm

    Thanks Bob and SysOp – I’ve recorded your incoming hits from that testing blog. Unfortunately the test failed because the hits are reported coming from period. I was hoping the modified URL (with the question mark) would show up somehow.

    Ok here’s a tough one for you SysOp (because if you can’t answer it no one can). Please read the scenario below – I’d appreciate your thoughts on the parts marked *magic*.

    Scenario –

    The landing page is:

    There are two activists: A1 and A2.

    Each activist has their own unique URL to send traffic to:

    A1 uses
    A2 uses

    A1 goes to and posts the mantra. At the end of the mantra he adds the link

    Fifty people read the mantra and five become curious enough to click A1’s link so’s tracker records five contacts coming from

    In addition, something *magically* records the fact that the link being used is instead of plain

    A2 goes to and sees the mantra. He can’t repost it right away or he’ll get banned for spamming. So he adds a comment to bump the mantra while using the riddle as his sigline. At the end of the riddle he adds: Answer at

    Twenty people read the riddle and two become curious enough to click A2’s link so’s tracker records two more contacts coming from the same page at

    At this point the tracker reports a total of seven visitors from the same page at while something *magically* informs us that five used A1’s link while two used A2’s.

    An hour later A1 goes to this *magical* webpage and sees that 5 more visitors have come from links with his name after the ? ( and that therefore his total activism score has increased by 5 points. Motivated by the rising score he goes out looking for more places to post.

    End of scenario.

    SysOp please tell me there is a tracker or php module out there that can pull this magic. If there is, we can cut out the activism platform altogether and transfer all the techie complexity from the activist onto a single onsite tracker/module (preferably with public *magic* data).

    If this is possible, the landing page (activism handbook) can then be hypercompressed into a simple appeal to help the activism effort by posting mantra or riddle using as the forwarding link. That’s it. OK maybe an explanation on creating html links in posts would be needed too, but that’s just a sentence at most:

    <a href=””>click here</a>

    Anyway, I’ve modified the testing blog ( so that it now contains four of these theoretical activism links pointing to We can use that for testing.


    To anyone reading this who is wondering what the heck we’re doing, the answer is we’re developing an activism model. The point of this model would be to motivate activists into posting in order to bring in traffic that is converted into more activists. All the while exposing people to the mantra. This would effectively pour chain letter exponential growth, i.e. kerosene, onto the fire Bob keeps talking about.

    If we can get this working here, I’ll set some sticks alight and run with them to They’re a very big blog (71,586 unique visitors for april) and I’m confident they’ll adopt this model IF – and only IF – I can show them it works. They’d then use it to foster their own activism and attract more readership. All the while spreading the mantra far and wide.

    If it works for a big blog like it’ll be a sure sell to other pro-white blogs/forums. They’re all welcome to encourage the activism-oriented among their readership to push the mantra if it gains them traffic.

    In short, the potential blaze is so huge it’s worth trying again and again and again until we develop the right kerosene formula.

  9. #9 by Stevenp on 05/16/2007 - 8:07 pm


    SysOp check this out:

    In order to draw those 2000 visitors I’ve made 112 posts all over the net. Actually many more because extreme tracker consolidates all hits from some domains under one referrer. See the page called Referrer Tracking 2 for the full list.

    Guess what such a high number of inbound links did to my google rank for “anti-white racist”: Google search

    Number 2 after one month’s work. Pretty amazing isn’t it?

    This suggests there is a very important side-effect to cutting out the intermediate activism platform. Getting activists to send traffic directly to the main websites may well result in a TREMENDOUS boost in google rankings for a whole slew of keywords at both blog and NS.

  10. #10 by Sys Op on 05/16/2007 - 8:17 pm


    I love it. You’ve just done because it WORKS exactly what people in e-commerce/SEO get paid for day after day after day. But they don’t have NEARLY as much fun, or have the same GUT purpose as you and the others who use blogs and forums.

    If you begin to put articles (250 words or so of verbiage) content pages up… that will only skyrocket and you’ll become one stop shopping for the Movement, and you and Dave control the content. If they link NS, that will do the same thing for Dave’s stats.

    We’ll see what happens. All the social bookmarking will now become instrumental…. but a video will do more than anything else around.

    The top SEO gurus and marketers are paying huge money to do it.

    What I’m doing in my arena is making people blanch. They stop, and have nothing to say. I bat my baby blues and say when they can help me solve my problem, please come tell me.

    One older gentleman winked and smiled the entire day — it wasn’t no come on, I’ll clue you.


  11. #11 by Stevenp on 05/16/2007 - 9:54 pm

    OK that settles it then: the activism platform must be cut out of the loop. It not only overcomplicates the recruiting, it wastes potential link popularity that better serves the keyword rich WOL and NS domains.

    As for – the first and last activism platform – I’ll do as you suggest and recycle it into an archive type deal by posting a ton of Bob. And I mean a ton: if 250 words is good, 250,000 is better. No point wasting the google traffic that comes from combining link popularity with keyword depth.

  12. #12 by Sys Op on 05/16/2007 - 10:16 pm

    I’ll answer you specifically on the above scenario/strategy in email… toooooo much tech on the blog. I’m a few steps behind you in really exactly what you’re proposing, but understand what you’re after very well. [edited 11:30pm]

    REMEMBER, Stevep, your links with /?xyz ARE showing up on SiteMeter… it’s not a failure. I have all mine there on WOL tests.
    Extreme won’t do it we found.

    If you get links and crosslinks TO WOL and NS, then that’s good. They have to have a way to GET here. The more links and places that other activists put up on their own, adding to on their own and cross-linking to each other is good. 250 words per posted article. Things run 250 to 500, but 500 is considered overkill unless it’s a technical or definition-heavy article. As NS has done, you link related articles into “funnels” or “silos” as the newer lingo is developing. Dave’s “funnels” are his upper menu/tab bars. All his links funnel links show on every page of that funnel’s articles. But, that’s NOT necessary; you link using TEXT ANCHORS within your articles to a related themes or definitions.

    BUT if it overcomplicates recruiting, you need to weigh that off against EXPOSURE to the MANTRA. That’s what needs to happen. They come here and they’ll go to NS.

    When someone searches on the keywords you want, do all road lead to South Carolina? Is the EXPOSURE what you want and is THAT what you’re getting? The recruits will eventually make it as all the rest of the world events play out.

    Do all roads lead to the concrete understanding of GENOCIDE OF THE WHITE RACE. If there’s no recognition, there’s no further searching.

    So think about that. The SEO will follow what people WANT! Remember there are political hotbeds going on out there. How does what Bob says scratch where they itch and you get that wide-eyed stare of RECOGNITION!


    We’re not higher on google because people don’t know we’re here and no one is out trading links and getting onto article directories and the video is not up yet for people to be able to post everywhere. That has to be good stuff to be doing, but Steven cannot do it alone.

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