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Conspiracy or Cost of Information?

Posted by Bob on January 17th, 2008 under History


richard looked up an old Quaker Oats ad and told me THAT was the original Quaker Oats ad, not the one I referred to.

I looked up the Mule Train on Google and found only a reference to one that showed up at civil rights rally in 1968.

I could be wrong on both counts, but I doubt it seriously.

It could be that there is a conspiracy, but I doubt that, too.

I saw the original Quaker Oats box in a history of advertising, with a discussion of it. I saw the Mule Train arriving at Cape Kennedy when there was the usual burst of publicity about it on TV in 1969.

This is one reason so many people believe in conspiracies. I am used to people seeing major stories on TV and talking about them and then, a year later, totally forgetting anything like that ever happened.

I tried to google the name of the original congressman who introduced and put through the creation of the House un-American Activities Committee. He was a Communist that KGB files showed was a paid Soviet agent. HUAC was set up to hunt down Nazis and KKK in the 1930s, and the left only got it abolished in a long campaign after it turned against the Reds after WWII.

John AshBROOK was on HUAC.

But I couldn’t find the information I was trying to find about the Communist congressman. Some people here and on SF found it finally.

The problem is that if you look up HUAC, the only stories are about its persecution of Hollywood and so forth.

A Conspiracy? No, what you find is what someone PRODUCES. What exactly would anyone GAIN by ignoring Hollywood and going back to what I was looking for?

Here’s a story you won’t read elsewhere. While I was on Capitol Hill, they decided to dispose of the HUAC file, the WHOLE thing. They offered to GIVE it to anybody who wanted it, libraries, individual staffers, ANYONE.

No takers.

So I assume most of it got burned. If I had had the space, I could have it now. For all the volumes written about it, no one wanted the actual files. There were THE LATEST news stories to deal with, and everything that they needed for the stories on McCarthyism and HUAC were already there for the taking of anybody who wanted to get published.

Does that sound like a conspiracy or simply that no one wanted to bother with it?

There is only one giant industry that almost NEVER has a real scandal. Why? Because what exactly would someone who is making his livelihood inside that industry GAIN by exposing a scandal of this sort? The two blacks who wrote false stories, one of whom got a Pulitzer Prize that had to be taken back, are both still making a good living in the media. That would have ruined a politician or a member of any other profession, but conservatives were the first to say it was a minor matter, really. This is not a conspiracy. This is a cost of information.

Let me say it again: information is a PRODUCT, like bread or potatoes. It is not so much suppressed as it is simply not produced, not repeated. Who would GAIN by talking about the civil right’s attack on the space program in 1969?

People on our side are as fixated on today’s news as the newspapers. Their time is spent on the latest outrage. The only people who would be interested in these old things would-be professionals and professionals are the LAST people who are going to drag up the Quaker Oats bit in the middle of an age of Political Correctness, or report scandals in the media or dwell on the Gods of Civil Rights’ opposition to the Moon Landing.

Do you really think that Bloomberg, who wrote the book Bias, is ever going to get a big job in the media again?

This is not conspiracy. This is the way the world WORKS.

When the Watts Riots got going, I stayed up at night listening about them on the radio. That was back when radio stations still signed off. I was on the East Coast, so the station I was listening to was going off the air. They finished up at about midnight California time and wound it up by repeating what every media outlet in America was saying at that point:

“This is NOT a race riot. This is NOT racial.”

Try to find THOSE quotes on Google!

I remember that after Kennedy was shot, the first words out of Chief Justice Earl Warren’s mouth were that this showed the danger of right wing extremists who had killed the President. Look THAT one up, gang!

Conspiracy, hell! Conspiracies aren’t that efficient!

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  1. #1 by shari on 01/17/2008 - 2:00 pm

    Well, we little, unimportant, white Americans would GAIN a lot if this stuff was shouted from the rooftops. It seems that pc lies are starting to take hits, even though many aren’t paying attention and are still befuddled if they even think at all.

    I was trying to remember who Sam Dickstein was recently and now I remember. I think it was Bob who found the only reference to it on the internet. Your right, most of us have CRS disease.

  2. #2 by Dave on 01/17/2008 - 2:19 pm

    Try to get somebody to acknowledge that our global economic problems are racial. It is the same issue, there is no market for that information.

    Everywhere and everything, it is the same old thing. America (the white man) is always the cause of the all the problems.

    We are supposed to ignore that we have foreign exchange markets that price currencies flawlessly. We are supposed to ignore that we have futures markets in interest rates and sovereign bonds that rat out the “money printers” flawlessly. We are supposed to ignore the fact that we have 24×7 precious metals markets that price every currency on earth every second of the day in terms of their gold and silver value absolutely transparently and honestly without interruption.

    And with all that (all white man innovations) it is the white man’s entire fault that the whole developing world’s banking systems are capitalized on US Treasuries (nothing more than savings accounts with the US Treasury Department).

    After all, there is nothing stopping Japanese, or Chinese, or Koreans, or Singaporeans, or Taiwanese, or Malaysians, or Thais, or Arabs, or Iranians, or Mexicans, or Chileans, or Brazilians, or Africans, or anybody else from capitalizing their banking systems with their own goddamned bonds.

    But they don’t for the same reason nobody will get on an aircraft when both the pilot and copilot are niggers. But that is always ignored, because no matter what, the white man is always responsible for absolutely everything, NO MATTER WHAT.

    That is foundational in what information gets marketed.

    Ask the Libertarians. They are world-class champions of the “it’s all the white man’s fault” game. World-class champions, bar none.

  3. #3 by Prometheus on 01/17/2008 - 10:22 pm

    What appears to be a memory hole is often just a discontinuation in the reporting and repetition of information.

    People seem to think that everything that should be remembered, is recorded and repeated. Information doesn’t grow on trees or fall from the sky, it is cultivated, cloned, sold and consumed.

  4. #4 by backbaygrouch4 on 01/18/2008 - 8:40 am

    The Congressman that worked for Stalin was Samuel Dickstein who ended up on New York’s highest court. In addition to being a Red he was a creature of Tammany Hall, hailing from the Bowery. There is still a square honoring him in Jew York City. The first chairman of the committee was John McCormack, locally known as Bolshevik John, in order to mask the fact that a Jew was behind the establishment of the committee. Their first sideshow was an alleged fascist plot exposed by Marine General Smedley Butler the protected son of a Pennsylvania congressman whose career ended when daddy by dying could no longer protect his outrageous behavior. It was widely reported at the time. A wicked man, Sir Robert Vannistart, a Whitehall denizen who did as much as any man to cause W.W.II, began his memoir The Mist Procession, “Old men forget…” No we don’t

  5. #5 by YearningForFreedom on 01/18/2008 - 7:18 pm

    May I have an example of people talking about a major news story and forgetting it a year later?

  6. #6 by Bob on 01/18/2008 - 7:22 pm

    YFF: The permanent meat shortage that led to breeding the beefalo.

  7. #7 by mderpelding on 01/18/2008 - 8:18 pm

    Bob, you are better than this…

    Quotes mine.

    “We are supposed to ignore that we have foreign exchange markets that price currencies flawlessly. We are supposed to ignore that we have futures markets in interest rates and sovereign bonds that rat out the “money printers” flawlessly. We are supposed to ignore the fact that we have 24×7 precious metals markets that price every currency on earth every second of the day in terms of their gold and silver value absolutely transparently and honestly without interruption.

    And with all that (all white man innovations) it is the white man’s entire fault that the whole developing world’s banking systems are capitalized on US Treasuries (nothing more than savings accounts with the US Treasury Department).

    After all, there is nothing stopping Japanese, or Chinese, or Koreans, or Singaporeans, or Taiwanese, or Malaysians, or Thais, or Arabs, or Iranians, or Mexicans, or Chileans, or Brazilians, or Africans, or anybody else from capitalizing their banking systems with their own goddamned bonds.

    But they don’t for the same reason nobody will get on an aircraft when both the pilot and copilot are niggers. But that is always ignored, because no matter what, the white man is always responsible for absolutely everything, NO MATTER WHAT. ”

    What a sense of grievance.

    This ain’t THINKING.

    This is the speech of a retard.

  8. #8 by Bob on 01/18/2008 - 8:50 pm

    mderpelding, Who are you quoting? It’s not me.

  9. #9 by mderpelding on 01/19/2008 - 11:07 pm

    Bob,
    I committed a “we all” error.
    The quotes are from Dave.

    My point…

    In the land of “we all” the indiscriminate mind rules.

    Real thought deals with specifics. To think is to choose, is it not? Bland generalities may sound nice but they are the mental version of the “melting pot”.

    Nothing specific.

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