OK. What I said about Obama was outside the understanding of both SFers and BUGS folk.
I believe that if I get back down to reading-with-your-lips political discussion, most will find it interesting but the minds I need will see how stupid it is.
Some Bob Whitaker on candidate James Edward staff is now negotiating to get Edwards put on Hillary’s ticket. On this momentous issue, the average person will say, “But Hillary can’t afford to alienate blacks that way.”
We are back to the basic question of politics, “Where will blacks GO?” It doesn’t matter, in 2008, the election on which that Bob Whitaker is makingh is living, whether blacks get mad.
The LAST thing Obama will do right now is lead a third party effort. He will huff and he’ll puff, but it means nothing.
THAT Bob Whitaker will point out to the Clinton crowd that Democrats need the Southern white votes Edwards can give them. Meanwhile blacks are as sure to vote Democratic in 2008 as they were to chop the cotton in 1860.
So now I am on something SF and BUGS readers consider real and practical. Wow! We are no longer talking abut something complicated and ethereal like power politics. We are back to the PRACTICAL matter of the Number 2 Democratic slot in 2008.
Maybe the one or two SFers who are still reading my stuff at this point will feel rewarded for their patience.
#1 by Pain on 01/27/2008 - 9:29 pm
This is grand, it seems you have proven that Bill will be president again, and Edwards VP.
But why hasn’t Diebold entered your mind?
You say you can’t understand technology and hate it, but to stay in the game, you will have to acknowledge that we have switched wooden bats for aluminum.
I don’t know enough to do more than supposing. But YOU have the practical experience BD (before Diebold).
Here are some possible positions relating to Diebold that I wish, hope against hope, you would look at:
(1) Elections are not dog-and-pony shows; they are real. The Diebold cheat codes will be used along with media blackouts only to eliminate revolutionary candidates such as Dr. Paul.
(2) The Diebold cheat codes will be used to help chosen candidates along, but with fictitious “returns” safely under 10% to allow plausible deniability.
(3) Elections are dog-and-pony shows, the deals deciding who will be President were cut years ago, and Diebold will be used to confirm that choice. The Diebold cheat codes will be used insomuch as their “returns” can be marketed as plausible.
(4) The President was chosen years ago, but not the VP. The successes of the “also-rans” help make the dog-and-pony show look legitimate and generate genuine popular support for the system.
(5) Use of the Diebold cheat codes will be spotty. Old habits die hard. Deals may have been cut far in advance, but they can be modified by a complex matrix of electoral success and cheating. The Diebold is only the latest tool. Although it would guarantee effortless, cheap victory to any chosen candidate, it will not be used often because that would change too much how things have been done for years.
(6) Diebold, what’s that?
#2 by Tim on 01/27/2008 - 10:02 pm
You are correct on Hillary picking the Southern guy for the votes. BUT blacks right now are feeling even more entitled than ever. She will pick Edwards and blacks will pitch a fit. This will cause a riff in the Democratic party and effect black voter turnout….that is to say….they won’t turn out in large numbers because they will finally realize everything is rigged (which it is). So the Republicans will walk away with it on the huge White Male vote margin AGAINST Hillary.
“We are back to the basic question of politics, “Where will blacks GO?”
Of course, Bob, we can replace the word “black” with “white” in this scenario and see why republicans will win against Hillary or Obama…..
Although it could be a close one. Neocons will try to run on the inclusive Hispanic Vote or we had better go after the black vote. And they know damn well White males HAVE to vote for the lessor of two evils.
My theory is that Obama would be best for us on BUGS. Everything would be RACIAL everday. BUGS would be a more exciting place. White kids may be able to cut a break for once. Obama is a self hating white man in brown rapping….so maybe he will feel guilty over the white kids and have no mercy on all violent browns??? Maybe he will be a REVERSE SHWM!
#3 by Simmons on 01/27/2008 - 10:45 pm
Blacks are not the swing vote that matters in any state that is a toss up. Jesse Jackass won about 15 primaries in 1988, Dukakis ran with Willie Horton as his VP and lost (even Illinois 50.5 to 49.5%). Hillary might choose Jim Webb for VP, and that will leave the GOP high and dry down to its zionist and gun control groups. Imagine the idiot McCain running against “racist” whites and running to send those same kids to fight for Israel.
#4 by Dave on 01/27/2008 - 11:11 pm
I am personally around colored people at lot, mostly blacks and Mexicans, both of the intellectual and ordinary varieties.
From the colored people in my personal life I know that colored people in general are blind to the sheer enormity of white history and its scale.
Accordingly, they take the restraint of white people wrongly.
It is a form of arrogance that involves their inability to contemplate the risk to themselves should restraints they unconsciously take for granted be sufficiently offended, offenses transpiring not in the arena of race relations per se, and accordingly residing within the scope of Political Correctness per se, but in the arena of white peoples’ relations with each other, something in no way so confined, as colored people wrongly suppose.
It is this contradiction that keeps us confused about colored politicians in the mainstream and about how the voting may sort itself out. And it is not for colored people or the political parties and their coalitions or an election cycle to resolve. That is not possible.