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Don’t Concede Their Ascendancy

Posted by Bob on March 23rd, 2011 under Coaching Session


I have been in active politics since I campaigned for Strom Thurmond’s write-in campaign in 1954.

The reason you read is largely because I have been there and done that. Most of us don’t feel hurt when I criticize you because you are making a mistake I made, not once but over and over and over.

Which is why it is so unique that there is actually a very popular error I never made. That was failing to learn from the other side. But before you pin the medals on my shirt that I so richly deserve, let me point out that one reason for this was that in all my reading there was almost nothing BUT the other side.

That was when any debate on television consisted of liberal Republicans as The Other Side against the Democrats who represented what was declared openly to be “mainstream opinion.”

Back then all Civil Rights legislation was stopped by a Southern filibuster. Conservative Republicans simply would not vote closure on debate, which required the vote of two-thirds of the total Senate membership, 64 senators at the time.

Southerners would take turns talking. But it was particularly hard on advocates of the legislation, since they had to sit it out, day and night, while all but one Southern senator stayed away. If at any time there were not 48 of them sitting there, the Southerner talking would simply ask for a quorum call.

The media all declared that these Southerners and Northern conservatives were stopping legislation “mainstream opinion” supported.

My brother gave a very good ironic explanation: “The South, the Midwest, and the West are combining to thwart the National Will.”

One lesson I learned from this was that the side that says it’s the National Will, or anything else, is likely to be seen as doing so. When several leftist women, each of whom had been the serial rapist’s best friend in the most extreme period of “Criminals are innocent, it’s society’s fault in the 60s, held a press conference in the 70s to declare themselves The Women’s Movement, they were accepted as such.

One of their first big issues was how many serial rapists a male-run society was putting back on the streets.

I was not surprised that the Women’s Movement had almost no popular base at all. Hundreds of thousands of women joined women’s groups with a conservative, anti-Women’s Movement agenda. But they got no notice at all.

When we set up our highly-publicized Populist Forum, we set up press conferences for genuine ground level anti-textbook movements, independent truckers, and anti-bussers, wildcat coal strikers, farmer’s groups and lots of others. Since my press releases said exactly what they wanted to say without subordinating it to any spin, we simply had to turn down all the dozens of requests for our help because we had no money.

But the media did call us the Populist Forum, a name liberals would die for.

In fact, though he doesn’t know it, we secured that title so that James Edwards can use it now.

The other side gets out in public and claims things. But it also gives the press something it can USE. You write their articles for them and they will use your title. I once made the front page of the New York Times doing that.

Conservatives expect to lose all the big titles. The conservative women with larger outfits could have called themselves the REAL Women’s Movement, but they always used words like Christian or Traditional. if they had come to me I could have helped them take over the Women’s Movement title.

And if a bullfrog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his butt every time he jumped. Conservatives didn’t like me because I COULD do things. That is NOT the way you become a respectable conservative and earn money to pay for your suit and tie.

I would like some comments on whether we always assume everybody is against us when we go into our debates. It is the ones on the other side who do all the talking because they know what to say. Who doesn’t? For one I can say we have heard it a thousand times.

But what if we go in there knowing that there are a lot of people out there who are on our side but not only fear to say it in their own names, but who have no idea how to say it at all?

I have fought many, many battles watching conservatives cringe away and standing there alone. My boss in congress, John Ashbrook, did it all the time. He and three or four others would keep congress from adjourning and get huge concessions for it, while conservative congressmen around him bitched at him.

They hated him more than the liberals did for that because they knew he was right and didn’t have the guts to do likewise.

The PC crowd always assumes it is the major, if not the only, point of view. This can be done if 1) yours is the only point of view allowed and 2) no one knows how to get snout-to-snout with you and tell you yous is not.

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  1. #1 by JasonW on 03/23/2011 - 6:56 am

    “I would like some comments on whether we always assume everybody is against us when we go into our debates. It is the ones on the other side who do all the talking because they know what to say. Who doesn’t? For one I can say we have heard it a thousand times. But what if we go in there knowing that there are a lot of people out there who are on our side but not only fear to say it in their own names, but who have no idea how to say it at all?”

    The first issue is focusing on what we want. I recoil at the word “Conservative,” and could never argue from their point of view. But if you want great public discourse, almost unanswerable, use your white voice to address the diverse white American peoples and use it in a white-centric way. That is, rather than express hatred toward Others or bitterness toward particularly well-organized minority groups, discuss the situation as it affects white kids or white seniors. If we stay focused on this voice and centricity, we can speak freely to our own and gradually teach by example how newbies can speak similarly and break the taboo against our having a voice. Right now there is such a cacophony of voices but very few advocating white freedom, dignity, and centricity. It’s fun to discourse this way and amazingly successful.

  2. #2 by Gavin on 03/23/2011 - 7:15 am

    I go in assuming that most people are on our side but don’t know exactly how to articulate their position. The other side has all the lines memorized but the public is against them. It’s like one well equipped soldier against a mob of unorganized peasants. A few years back the PC people were able to keep the peasants under control but now I’ve noticed that the peasants are growing in numbers and getting more unruly. If we could just equip them with a few mantra points I think we could really get going.

    I go into a discussions where the anti-whites are repeating their talking points and the mob is putting up some unprofessional resistance. Usually once I come in the mob quiets down and lets me do all the work although I usually get a good number of “thumbs up” on my comments. I have even seen a few mantra points pop up days later in the same places I have previously beaten some anti-whites.

    I don’t like it when people on our side concede anything so I never do it myself. I don’t concede and I don’t justify. This has worked for me so far. I just keep on attacking the anti-white.

  3. #3 by BGLass on 03/23/2011 - 7:57 am

    “….That is, rather than express hatred toward Others or bitterness toward particularly well-organized minority groups, discuss the situation as it affects white kids or white seniors…”

    Or ask directly: ‘In an atmosphere of obvious governmentally approved and t.v.-discussed hardball ethno-racial-politics, why ARE YOU the only one arguing for a team other than your own.’

    It’s interesting to see people ask themselves that. Usually, they admit they are afraid. They have seen violence against people who speak out in any way. Also, they fear other sanctions and attentions, like just having their lives wrecked or job, or whatever.

    But OFTEN there is also the resistance, like you see in one girl in the Kelso Cpac vid. Her answer is that if she were to argue for herself, she would be ‘just like them…’ down at their level.

    Hanging onto arguing for non-whites, jews, whatever, (instead of being in the skin of one’s own real historical reality)— is like saying “I’m so rich, I have plenty for me, and whole bunches leftover to give away to those ‘less fortunate.’

    So, hanging onto this white superiority, which it is, is ALSO helping out the others. It is a way of “not conceding” or “giving an inch” —it is “assuming the position” in her mind. She is a leader, and a leader always has tons of stuff to toss around. The leader takes care of all the others.

    To be “pro-white” for her, would be to admit failure. To admit that she is no longer in control, that she no longer is so wealthy as to have the blessing of endless abundance and to always have plenty to toss to other groups. She’s the Abel, not the Cain. (And of course, tho, he gets axed).

    Having people explore their own motives, personal motives, in not speaking or saying what they think or feel is always very interesting, imo, and instructive for them sometimes.

    Acknowledging loss of power, that they do not really have anything extra to give, that they are not really that materially privileged, the way the media says, that they actually feel the pinch the longer they construe, in their minds, “white privilege,” with being some moral sensibility that the media personnel do not acknowledge, and that they are perceived as just these morally corrupt people who got their stuff, that has now been siphoned away, through corrupt means, even though they know they were children of the american revolution, or rebel army, or pioneers, or many other now-discredited things, is too hard to look at— so they keep stoically playing out the position: they are the leader, they give all, for they have the most. Others say they are afraid.

  4. #4 by Simmons on 03/23/2011 - 9:55 am

    If anyone would like to see how its not supposed to be done see Jared Taylor’s response to the white girl’s banishment from UCLA, it is on v-dare today.

    Paid by the word, verbose, and even if factually correct, and it is, the article he wrote has no focus except to sound slight semi-respectable. All of v-dare does this, its writers copying Mommy Prof’s style hoping to slip on thru the defense screen of the liberal’s cults.

    Let us assume with Mr. Taylor his refusal to use our Mantra concepts is pure ego or a combination of ego and fear of the lib/respectable axis, how do we make him actually useful to our race?

    • #5 by H.Avenger on 03/23/2011 - 11:15 am

      Simmons,
      There could another reason for Mr. Taylor actions. We assume he is on our side. But time and time again he has defined OUR SIDE in very very broad terms. The SPLC has told the world that Jared Taylor is NOT an AntiSemite. Of course, he is not an antisemite. But I found the SPLC pronouncement rather odd.

      For the first time in history the enemy comes to our defense. They come to the defense of Jared Taylor?? And they say he is not an AntiSemite?? Sorry but I find this rather odd. After all, the SPLC has never once told the truth about anyone else in our struggle. We all know James Edwards is not a Neo-Nazi. But will the SPLC state that fact? NO.

      What am I saying with all this?? I have more questions than answers. But the real question in any struggle is:”Do you know your enemy?”. We know our enemy wages war by deception. We also know the Jewish Elites are not too fond of us. LOL
      But we never ponder the first statement enough and what that entails. Waging War by Deception is not in our nature. That is why we have been so damaged by certain “gentile” elements of this country…..like the Bush family.

      The good news is we do not need to necessarily know everything to win. The Mantra is that good. But we may have to take the definition of “treason” seriously to keep from losing the victory. Conservatives have totally forgotten the definition of treason. BUGS cannot afford to forget.

      • #6 by Simmons on 03/23/2011 - 1:25 pm

        H, I assume Mr. Taylor is what he is a gentleman with concerns for our race. That in some portion he is ineffective I wish to change that.

        Do I begrudge the jew, black or whatever? Not really, I’m white and that is my burden. The SPLC jews are just doing what they do, we must calmy and methodically deconstruct that anti-white genocide machine.

        I just want people to be useful, that is my main goal in life making people useful.

        My idea is if Taylor has some public domain video then we Mantra it up, then we will see.

        • #7 by H.Avenger on 03/26/2011 - 4:52 pm

          My above comment might come across harsh. That was not intended. I am critical for a reason.

          I have always liked the fact that Amren has went out of their way to promote truthful news to our people. Furthermore, I have never met Mr Taylor. Those that have met him tell me he is great guy. And no one has promoted crime stats against whites more effectively than him.

          What has irritated me lately is the emails I keep getting about posting on Amren. Many of our people have tried posting on Amren to no avail. They are large venue and they are pro white so this confuses me. Also, this has been happening quite a bit.

          I know also that some of this board have experienced this as well. Also, I know for the fact the comments were well above board. Nothing disrespectful at all. And many of the posts simply contain our message.

          I am assuming Mr Taylor does not approve posts to his articles. Someone else (assistant) probably does that. Maybe someone we should talk to over. So we can understand what is going on?
          But I have been finding it hard to comprehend how we can post on CNN and Stormfront, Youtube and every other venue….with no problem. And the only emails I keep get complaining about a site not accepting our comments are on Amren. Odd. Getting banned by a certain Youtube account comes with the territory. But as of right now, Amren is the only venue who for some reason won’t allow us to post?

          Maybe there is a logical reason?
          maybe they don’t like our message? or maybe pink rabbits have infiltrated his server..lol……
          .who knows…..it does not make any sense to me

  5. #8 by dungeoneer on 03/23/2011 - 11:21 am

    “I would like some comments on whether we always assume everybody is against us when we go into our debates.”

    Nope,I don`t assume that,I see us BUGSters as the pro-white liberators who only need to bring word to our people that someone cares about them and their future.

    You have to put in the bank that we are winning hearts and minds if the enemy can`t even put up a half-way decent fight-back in the public arena to our message.

    Like one of the anti-whites said to me on that Asians in the library vid:

    “You`re making out that we`re the devils and you are the saints”.

    🙂

  6. #9 by Dave on 03/23/2011 - 11:51 am

    Their “ascendancy” is “descendancy”.

    The lateral slippage into the chaos the Establishment represents has been going on a very long time. The important issue is who the world is ceded to. There is not one academic, one politician, one jurist, one industrialist, one financier, or one militarist who is capable of understanding this. None of them have any claim on the future whatsoever.

    The important issue is who the world is ceded to. The Establishment endlessly flails about, thinking elevating someone talented in the nuances of political spin and the arts of consensus is the answer.

    My hatred and resentment will trump their “sophistication” every time. Too much of humanity has been swept out to sea in the torrents and riptides of their conceits, leaving vast numbers of allies for me and my kind. Collectively we are more heavily armed than they imagine, and perhaps therein can be found the “national will”.

    What can the Establishment do? Hire yet another lawyer, another cop, another bureaucrat? The punishment for being deluded is that you don’t get to know what went wrong.

    Meanwhile an emissary of fate hides in the shadows, guardian to a secret storehouse of weapons.

    • #10 by Simmons on 03/23/2011 - 1:29 pm

      I was thinking Dave that White countries have reached social worker collapse. Cannot spend more and the kids who want that field cannot afford less (thank you Mommy Prof, enjoy that new Volvo and gold plated pension)

  7. #11 by OldBlighty on 03/23/2011 - 1:59 pm

    “I would like some comments on whether we always assume everybody is against us when we go into our debates.”

    IMO some are brainwashed by the enemy, either into agreeing with them, or if they disagree, to be cowed by them. There is a portion that are ignorant and have no strong opinion either way. As long as life remains good for them personally, they do not care what happens to white people in the future.

    However what I have noticed is the far left have zero popular support, yet they are trained to use a style of communication, that implies their position is correct, moral, has majority support and most damaging of all, it is inevitable.

    I see these methods as a form of societal conditioning, that get results over time and I think we should learn to use them as well as the Mantra.

  8. #12 by Gavin on 03/23/2011 - 3:40 pm

    I cringe whenever I see some pro-white person speaking on the defensive or trying to fit our ideas into the establishment. An example is the BNP TV Interview. The BNP leader was justifying himself and only hitting hard on the PC friendly points (Islam’s treatment of women). I think that we underestimate our own strength. There is a good degree of support for our ideas and I believe that the biggest mistake that some pro-whites commit is making any sort of concession to the present establishment. Maybe some of us have bought into the false morality that has been presented to us, so we try to fit our values into their false morality, rather than just establishing our own morality.

    We are in a very strong position once we start arguing from the moral high ground rather than just trying to fit our ideas into their false morality. Just taking the club and bashing down their whole system has been effective for us BUGSTERS.

  9. #13 by Christian M on 03/23/2011 - 6:33 pm

    “My idea is if Taylor has some public domain video then we Mantra it up, then we will see.”

    Simmons,

    Jared Taylor has many videos on YouTube, just search for him. He has talk show appearances, RT interviews, and even a BET interview where something dressed as a lawyer starts hooting and snorting at him. It’s a real riot!

    Using SHAME is a good way to maintain the high ground in a debate. SHAME on you, anti-White, for ___ and ___ and advocating White genocide! Everyone here with a conscience denounces the evil, genocidal, and hateful ideas you’re spewing about White people. Everyone realizes (speak for the audience, sure, go ahead, anti-Whites do it all the time) you can do nothing but spew anti-White hate messages, and we can all see that you even try to justify it. Et cetera

    Shame and moral high ground is the way to go once you’ve drawn blood!

  10. #14 by shari on 03/27/2011 - 7:06 am

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2011/03/the_revolution_2.php

    Jared Taylor reposts this on Mar.25. Is He reading Bugs? There are some mantra like thoughts in it, but he makes them more broad , and wordy. It’s common,but he seems much more motivated by his own appearance than by conviction. Bugsters see the attempt at genociding their race as straight out of the pit and MUST be stopped. As one anti-white said, They aren’t trolls,they are SERIOUS.

    The mantra is bringing these types into clear focus. It’s going to be harder and harder to not take sides.

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